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[SinterFold_]

How is Rake It Up not in the Top 50 on Spotify 

[alexanderao]

1 minute ago, SinterFold_ said:

How is Rake It Up not in the Top 50 on Spotify 

It's #52 right now, so it's bound to enter the region soon. 

[Agenor]

2 hours ago, Yndda said:

UK has been 150 since the start of this year (both for the OCC and the BPI)

Actually only OCC changed the ratio to 1:150 for singles chart (but still uses 1:100 for the year-end charts), and BPI still uses 1:100 for the certifications.

[Samson]

21 minutes ago, Agenor said:

Actually only OCC changed the ratio to 1:150 for singles chart (but still uses 1:100 for the year-end charts), and BPI still uses 1:100 for the certifications.

wait, really? I…

I swear BBC said that the BPI and the OCC both use 1:150 for everything now. must've misread

 

@bsdoacao3 might wanna come back here for a bit, I got smth wrong it seems

edit: oh and if you need help with anything to do with the belgian or french music industry, call me I'm great in french, and it helps that french tends to use loanwords a LOT when it comes to music business

Edited August 6, 2017 by Yndda

[Agenor]

2 minutes ago, Yndda said:

wait, really? I…

I swear BBC said that the BPI and the OCC both use 1:150 for everything now. must've misread

I totally believe you, but it wouldn't be the first time BBC got it wrong.

 

Here's the proof that they still use 1:100 for certifications:

Quote

At the halfway point of 2017, Shape Of You – one of Ed's double single release ahead of his third album ÷ back in January - leads the way with a massive 2.6 million shifted across all formats.

72% of that figure is streaming equivalent sales (184 million plays), while 28% is digital downloads (717,000), making Shape Of You both the biggest selling song of 2017 so far and sets a new record for the UK’s most streamed song of all time, overtaking Drake’s One Dance.

The second of Ed’s ÷ releases, Castle On The Hill, is the second biggest song of the year to date, with 1.5 million equivalent units sold, made up of 455,000 downloads and 105m streams.

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-songs-of-2017-so-far__18652/

[Samson]

Just now, Agenor said:

I totally believe you, but it wouldn't be the first time BBC got it wrong.

 

Here's the proof that they still use 1:100 for certifications:

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-songs-of-2017-so-far__18652/

wait I just did the maths and the OCC stays being a mess

[Agenor]

1 minute ago, Yndda said:

wait I just did the maths and the OCC stays being a mess

They really are a mes, especially after their newest rules implementation (the 1:300 streams ratio after 10 weeks on the chart and 3 weeks of declining sales... )

[Samson]

Just now, Agenor said:

They really are a mes, especially after their newest rules implementation (the 1:300 streams ratio after 10 weeks on the chart and 3 weeks of declining sales... )

if HDD were a british publication, it would have a FIELD DAY with the OCC

[jose168]

6 minutes ago, Agenor said:

They really are a mes, especially after their newest rules implementation (the 1:300 streams ratio after 10 weeks on the chart and 3 weeks of declining sales... )

Mess. I guess the UK was always a fast paced, easily manipulated chart so the sudden stability based on actual public consumption had em shook

[Samson]

18 minutes ago, jose168 said:

Mess. I guess the UK was always a fast paced, easily manipulated chart so the sudden stability based on actual public consumption had em shook

idk if u already know this stuff but imma say it anyway—

 

basically, in the UK, they had a bit of a chart culture for decades, with shows like top of the pops that were great promo for acts. the chart's instability let that culture flourish. even though such shows have vanished for the most part, UK music sites seemed to still celebrate chart culture and whatnot and then streaming became popular and the chart stop being so unstable.

 

for example, for years before 2015, labels would release a song to radio first and then wait for like six months to actually release the song in hopes of maximising sales and getting a huge debut. that's why the UK had so many goddamn #1 songs every year that flew down the charts and had legit no longevity this practise ended once the IFPI made friday a global standard date

 

now that streaming happened and it actually shows what people are still listening to, the OCC is SHOOK and now they're bogging down the charts with all of these rules. I mean, they haven't even added video streams to their charts

 

tl;dr— streaming brought some UK chart stability and it made the OCC shook.

 

the only factors on the songs charts are streams and sales and they managed to **** that up, even WITHOUT airplay which moves slower than sales and streams.

Edited August 6, 2017 by Yndda

[Isaiah]

Is it normal for someone like cardi to be #2 on Apple Music but not even top 1000 on Spotify..??

[QueenofCopyPaste]

4 minutes ago, Isaiah said:

Is it normal for someone like cardi to be #2 on Apple Music but not even top 1000 on Spotify..??

Its #32 on Spotify

[umich]

US spotify:

23 (+9). Bodak Yellow

[Recordyear]

Bank Account tops US Spotify.

[Justinintime]

1 hour ago, umich said:

US spotify:

23 (+9). Bodak Yellow

This may challenge for no.1 

[umich]

44 minutes ago, Justinintime said:

This may challenge for no.1 

Quite possibly. Like someone else mentioned earlier, it's just one viral challenge away from doing so. 

[alexanderao]

08/06/2017

Spotify

T50 archive parts. 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5

Top 200 with play counts

 

1. Bank Account (+2) (1,176,086) *New peak* *1 day at #1*

2. XO TOUR Llif3 (1,173,617)

3. Unforgettable (-2) (1,172,961) *Spent 6 days at #1*

4. Wild Thoughts (1,142,720)

5. Despacito - Remix (1,094,584)

6. HUMBLE. (929,396)

7. I'm The One (910,309)

8. Mi Gente (855,138) *Currently at peak*
9. Butterfly Effect (+1) (788,784) *Matches peak*
10. Congratulations (-1) (785,349)

 

11. Feels (+1) (746,486)

12. Sorry Not Sorry (-1) (740,800)

13. Strip That Down (724,114)

14. Location (699,858)

15. Redbone (696,481)

16. Attention (643,960) *Currently at peak*

17. Body Like A Back Road (643,118)

18. Believer (624,803)
19. Young Dumb & Broke (617,476) *Breaks streak of 6 new peaks in a row* *Currently at peak*

20. DNA. (594,209)

 

21. Slippery (+5) (581,381)

22. Goosebumps (+2) (577,561)

23. Bodak Yellow (+9) (573,412) *New peak (5 in a row)* *+18 in last 2 days*

24. 2U (-1) (572,305)

25. 1-800-273-8255 (-3) (570,259)

26. Magnolia (+1) (567,363)

27. Fetish (-6) (561,562)

28. Slide (+1) (558,956)

29. Mask Off (+1) (545,871)

30. Love Galore (-5) (544,205)

 

31. Thunder (524,451)

32. Slow Hands (-4) (522,359)

33. Glorious (+2) (521,943) *New peak*
34. That's What I Like (+2) (518,059)

35. Perplexing Pegasus (+15) (517,062) *New peak* *Debuted yesterday*

36. Back To You (-3) (511,027)

37. Feel It Still (-3) (510,451)

38. Praying (-1) (480,203)

39. It's A Vibe (+6) (474,008)

40. New Rules (473,423) *Currently at peak*
 

41. Signs (473,361)

42. I Like Me Better (-4) (471,330)

43. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (-4) (470,039)

44. LOYALTY. (-1) (466,105)

45. LOVE. (-3) (460,867)

46. Shape Of You (-2) (459,443)

47. Drowning (-1) (454,390)

48. Rollin (+1) (440,307)

49. Now Or Never (-2) (431,936)

50. Bad Liar (-2) (423,651)

 

Dropouts

None

 

Total plays of the Top 10:

10,028,944 (-231,204 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 50:

32,017,539 (-1,051,604 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 100:

46,429,583 (-1,745,735 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 200:

64,738,805 (-3,217,818 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 200,000 plays:

125 (-15 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 300,000 plays:

67 (-4 from yesterday)

 

Apple Music

1. Bank Account

2. Bodak Yellow

3. Wild Thoughts

4. Unforgettable

5. Despacito - Remix

6. Love Galore

7. Rake It Up (+2)

8. XO TOUR Llif3 (-1)

9. I'm The One (-1)

10. HUMBLE.

 

11. The Weekend 

12. Magnolia

13. Congratulations 

14. LOYALTY.

15. It's A Vibe (+2)

16. Butterfly Effect 

17. 1942 Flows (+2)

18. LOVE. (-3)

19. Whatever You Need (-1)

20. 4 AM

 

21. Crew (+2)

22. Location (-1)

23. Redbone (+1)

24. Issues (-2)

25. Relationship 

26. First Day Out

27. Slippery (+1)

28. That's What I Like (+1)

29. We Ball (-2)

30. Rae Sremmurd - Perplexing Pegasus (NEW)

 

31. DNA. 

32. Body Like A Back Road (+2)

33. The Story Of O.J. (-1)

34. Minute (-4)

35. Drowning (-2)

36. Mi Gente (+1)

37. Slide (-2)

38. Feels (-2)

39. No Complaints (+1)

40. Attention (-1)

 

41. Al Youngboy - No Smoke (NEW)

42. Sorry Not Sorry (-4)

43. Strip That Down (-2)

44. Young Dumb & Broke 

45. Portland (-2)

46. Passionfruit 

47. Goosebumps (-2)

48. Wins & Losses (-6)

49. Bad And Boujee (-2)

50. wokeuplikethis* (-2)

 

 

[alexanderao]

YouTube 8/2

1. Despacito 3,371,717

2. Bodak Yellow 1,998,099

3. Bank Account 1,889,058

4. Wild Thoughts 1,566,785

5. That's What I Like 1,532,232

 

[wish]

Fetish is, like, flopping

[popmusic]

19 hours ago, bsdoacao3 said:

The streams ratio in certifications, is it correct? What about Belgium and other countries?

 

Australia: /175
Canada: /150
Denmark: /100
Finland: /100
France: /150
Germany: /100
Ireland: /100
Italy: /130
Netherlands: /150
NZ: /175
Norway: /100
Poland: /250 (YouTube included)
Spain: /250
Sweden: /100
Switzerland: /187
UK: /100
US: /150

Polish ZPAV has changed certification rules from 'stream equilavent sales' to 'revenue equivalent sales'. Now 1 unit equals 2 PLN in net revenue (streaming/sales). That means there's difference between free and premium streaming and video and audio. 

[fridayteenage]

i caught up a bit. young dumb and broke is more okay than butterfly effect and bank account. probably won't remember any of them

 

[Cheetos]

So streaming has not caught up to sales yet? The number one song is averaging how many streams a week? When sales used to do 300k, 400k regularly? I'm not criticizing I'm wondering. 

[alexanderao]

43 minutes ago, Cheetos said:

So streaming has not caught up to sales yet? The number one song is averaging how many streams a week? When sales used to do 300k, 400k regularly? I'm not criticizing I'm wondering. 

Not completely sure what you mean by "caught up," but what I can tell you is that song consumption is increasing. That is, the total number of units being earned by songs is on the rise:

 

 

Despacito is a very strong streaming #1 right now and has been doing 55-65 million streams per week. Usually 40 million is enough for #1 though.

 

Here are some screenshots from Nielsen reports illustrating the decline of sales (scroll through):

 

Here is the Hot Digital Songs chart for this week. If you compare those numbers to some from 2012 or 2013 the decline becomes even more apparent.

[Samson]

kworb's site still hasn't updated been wondering how ugly god did on day two

spotontrack is cute but it doesn't label new peaks or anything

[fridayteenage]

7NEW

Jake Paul - YouTube Stars Diss Track (Official Music Video)

5,640,309

 

oh.