discussion Is the United States officially over?

[Tusk]

 

[Mean Trees]

Of course. It's been over a long time ago. You can't have a country with a strong plutocratic class who make decisions based on their bank accounts and think it's going to last. 

[Lightbringer007]

53 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Its literally the #1 economy in the world.  

 

OT: Anyway, we shall see. Other countries have fumbled real bad but come back so right now its tbd.

and yet its tanking rn and will only get worse

 

im talking about its history

[GraceRandolph]

56 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Its literally the #1 economy in the world.  

 

OT: Anyway, we shall see. Other countries have fumbled real bad but come back so right now its tbd.

You really think we're going to be taken seriously after two Trump terms? Listen to Mark Carney speak and then watch Trump. Were a global embarrassment. It's over.

[Blade Runner]

Sadly, no.

 

The thing is, the US is such a big imperialist force that if that sh+thole falls the rest of the world will follow the same path. They literally control EVERYTHING. We're f+cked and doomed. 

[Shaner69]

Are pumkins orange? 

[Shaner69]

I'm not joking you the world against Trump is huge. It's about to happen. 

[Onyxmage]

3 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

You really think we're going to be taken seriously after two Trump terms? Listen to Mark Carney speak and then watch Trump. Were a global embarrassment. It's over.

In all fairness. Yes. I do. Most countries Leaders are WEAK by nature and easily swayed by new administrations. If a dem (or even a sane republican) ever got back in office  i could easily see other countries opening up talks with the US again.

[Onyxmage]

3 hours ago, Lightbringer007 said:

and yet its tanking rn and will only get worse

 

im talking about its history

okay? Britain's economy TANKED for 4 straight years after Brexit and its still considered one of the leading economic nations.  

[Odette Violet]

Yes

[GraceRandolph]

2 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

In all fairness. Yes. I do. Most countries Leaders are WEAK by nature and easily swayed by new administrations. If a dem (or even a sane republican) ever got back in office  i could easily see other countries opening up talks with the US again.

George W. Bush was considered a low point for Republicans, Sarah Palin as VP was considered a low point, but Trump is even worse than both. There's no reason to believe a sane Republican can get elected. 

[Onyxmage]

1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said:

George W. Bush was considered a low point for Republicans, Sarah Palin as VP was considered a low point, but Trump is even worse than both. There's no reason to believe a sane Republican can get elected. 

I mean maybe not but like i said I cant predict the future. All I know is that many countries rely on the US for a number of things (trade, defense etc) and if they truly want to abandon it then they have to step up. The problem is they don't trust each other either. So basically its all a MESS.  

[Lightbringer007]

18 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

okay? Britain's economy TANKED for 4 straight years after Brexit and its still considered one of the leading economic nations.  

ur missing my point but anyways

[mike_int]

The whole world is f*cking over

[Gesamtkunstwerk]

1 hour ago, Onyxmage said:

In all fairness. Yes. I do. Most countries Leaders are WEAK by nature and easily swayed by new administrations. If a dem (or even a sane republican) ever got back in office  i could easily see other countries opening up talks with the US again.

Other countries are not going to pick up former relations to US again just because someone else is elected in 2028.

 

This whole Trump circus have shown that US are willing to put unreliable people in office. What if in 2032 someone that attacks allies, and world trade, is elected again ? Trump has changed the world order within 100 days, it's not reversible just because he's not in office anymore. 

[Princess Aurora]

13 hours ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

Well I do see a lot of parallels between Trump's tariffs and Woman's World release

Yes, Katy Perry's career is the metaphor of the American decline

Edited 22 hours ago by Princess Aurora

[Bubble Tea]

I feel like if they manage to get themselves together and elect a PROGRESSIVE liberal president in 2028 there may be it's final chance to redeem itself but I feel like the whole world looks at USA like a bit of a joke now. Like "oh they REALLY didn't educate their people for decades on end and left people behind and now..."

[Symmetra]

The way some of yall are so eager for china to take over is crazy. 

[Mellark]

Yeah, it's in Katy Perry era post-Prism album at the moment.  

[Onyxmage]

3 hours ago, Gesamtkunstwerk said:

Other countries are not going to pick up former relations to US again just because someone else is elected in 2028.

 

This whole Trump circus have shown that US are willing to put unreliable people in office. What if in 2032 someone that attacks allies, and world trade, is elected again ? Trump has changed the world order within 100 days, it's not reversible just because he's not in office anymore. 

The US isnt the only country with unreliable leaders yet most countries are still doing business with each other. By the way im not defending the US in any way im just saying we dont know yet.  

Edited 22 hours ago by Onyxmage

[Cloudy]

We can only hope.

[loveisdead9582]

15 hours ago, JustHoran said:

It's going to get even worse, which is terrifying.

Oh definitely. And the worst part is that everyone knew it was coming. 

[constantinople]

18 hours ago, Symmetra said:

The way some of yall are so eager for china to take over is crazy. 

Yes. I'm Brazilian. And I can't wait to see the country that installed a dictatorship in my country in the 1960s to be replaced by China