Digitalism Posted March 30 Posted March 30 The fan base problem that yall claim with Dua makes no sense. Look at Rih she has the smallest fan base but she has the real hits. You can play the GP 1
KatyPrismSpirit Posted March 30 Posted March 30 21 minutes ago, Trent W said: I think only Billie and maybe Olivia are comparable to Katy in her peak in terms of success Her 2008-2015 run was absolutely insane I also think her decline was so steep and incredible sudden that is unlikely we see something like that in a very long time True. Her run was insane. And I love all the new girls, but let's be serious... absolutely none of them come even remotely close to Katy's peak in terms of success from 2008-2015. That was Katy Perry's world back then. Nine #1 hits back to back to back. Seven Diamond hits. Teenage Dream is the highest certified era ever... like historic achievements. And it makes sense. With technology and AI being forefront in music consumption there is no way to dominate the zeitgeist like that 2010-2014 era. Those days are over indeed.
Strawberry Bubble Posted March 30 Posted March 30 2 hours ago, chaklux said: All except Sza and Billie Ellis . They are the ones that I think have been established solid fanbases outside of GP. and olivia 1
slobro Posted March 30 Posted March 30 2 hours ago, Phaunzie said: I'm sry but some of them might not have the longevity like Katy. I like over 12 years (2008-2021) in the mainstream compared to only 2 at time of recording for most of the new gen. Sabrina could easily be replaced in the next two eras, Chappel could be gone even sooner, becoming this generations, Cyndi Lauper. Billie will probably get pass the 8-year mark. Olivia will mostly likely free-fall if she doesn't evolve in her next era. Dua is in a dry spell but, like she still has the cool factor that the rest of them beside Billie don't have. Like, compared to the other new gen, they have the most straight fan retention (the most loyal & largest number of fans). Doja still has a loyal fanbase and she could easily comeback. Chappell on the other hand, is the novelty pop girl of the moment who the media doesn't like. Chappell doesn't have a bigger fanbase that Katy ever had, she is just bolstered by the GP's fleeting interest in the weirdo of the moment. I love Chappell but, girl let's be honest the GP are going to chew her up and spit her out when they get bored. She will have a relatively adequate fanbase, let's not act like the cringe, hard to work with, annoying and miserable accusations aren't lined up the moment she steps out of line. Like Gaga, Chappell already amassed a massive and loyal LGBT fanbase that will carry her for life(times) even if the GP abandons her, which will give her career way more longevity than Katy's. Katy was just a GP act, with very little die hard fans to speak of.
shinyshimmery Posted March 30 Posted March 30 we all know what happened when Katy cut her hair so I'd say any of them who cuts off their hair
whatyouwant_ Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) Everyone except Billie and SZA. Most of them are already getting Katy Perry'd Edited March 30 by whatyouwant_ 2
Jay07 Posted March 30 Posted March 30 3 hours ago, Solaria said: Oh I'm so sorry, we can use highly succesful tour so far as well! Isn't Katy herself about to go on a sold out tour and she's been over for almost a decade.
formlessminutiae Posted March 30 Posted March 30 I'm just not sure any metric is viable to know if someone will be KP'd. If anything, the only reliable metric is our own perception of them. I feel like younger people don't necessarily perceive musicians at all, and the vast array of music that is accessible has changed the focus to just the songs. This is why I think Beyoncé is elusive: it no longer pays to be perceived. GP either likes your music or your personality, and they do not connect.
AvadaKedavra Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) My analysis of them: Billie Eilish : She's been successful and releasing great songs but in the last years she's been losing the spotlight to new artists and taylor. She's always successful but no the center of everything anymore like 2019-2020. Turning more into an underdog and thats not the greatest thing. I feel like a bad step could be damagin for her career and people will just pay less attention to her. At the same time her artistry is so good. That is helping her* i can see her repeaking if she comes with something powerful and new. The industry will give her more grammys Chappell Roan : Chappel is fresh and new but she's always involved in controversy and drama. Her career will be destroyed with the wrong comment* and the hate been breeding lately if you notice and everyone will obliterate her like britney even if she's successful. Its only the right timing. She's also takin too much time to come with new music-videos. From all these ladies she's the one with the most potential to be titanic big but there's a chance she will waste it! Chappel is so unpredictable* but there's definitely beauty,talent and interesting aesthetic Doja Cat : There's no current cool black pop girl playing the commercial catchy lane in the game right now. She will keep being successful and people definitely dont give a **** about her controversies. She's the new Rihanna as long as her new music is good* Dua Lipa : Dua Is ambitious but i feel like her current team is very lost with things. Sometimes i feel like dua is the new kylie minogue. but dua is brainiac and ambitious when she's not on vacation....There's a chance she will find a way to regain the American GP back i can see her havin her momentum worldwide even if she flops in the states again Olivia Rodrigo : Olivia career is in big risk cause she's asian and white american teen girls now have so many white artists to choose from. Olivia really needs to come with the best music of her career to win them over again* show better songwriting than everyone else to win that respect. Have interesting unique aesthetics* too. Explore new genres too. The pop rock stick is gettin boring* Synthpop maybe? Hyper pop? With her sometimes i feel like she's one step away from oblivion or avril-alanis type of career or one step away from a taylor-beyonce type of career Sabrina Carpenter : I see Sabrina as someone smart and in touch with the trends and highly ambitious but lately with the sex controversy i wonder if she's that smart cause thats been ruining her reputation.Sexy is loved. Raunchy is not.....and she's still doin it????? This type of bad moves leaded katy perry to lose her career* She needs to show also more range music wise. The artists with the most loyal fanbase are the ones showin artistry early in their careers* sabrina new album was loved but definitely not treated as the best music ever SZA : Even if her music is good i think at one point a new aclaimed alternative black artist will come and replace her or maybe she will pass over that and be the new mary j blige. Tate McRae : Tate will fade to the bottom and be forgotten or have her small loyal fanbase or will keep gettin bigger and her performing skills will help her to achieve that love. We need that illuminati ritual so she gets bigger its time for sacrifices tate Edited March 30 by AvadaKedavra 1 1
Smarticle Posted March 30 Posted March 30 5 hours ago, RideOrDie said: wdym? katy is a legend and the #5th best female artist of the century with diamond singles and a diamond alboom, her career is flourishing, she will win a grammy on her next alboom, 143 was a misunderstood masterpiece, teenage dream is the biggest alboom of all time, her vocals never sounded better on her whitney houston covers and she is a brilliant songwriter who penned thinking of grammys when she was just 9 years old. she is still on top of the world as ATRL and twitter can't stop talking about her, so it just confirms she is always and will be relevant! Reveal hidden contents doja/dua the way you can make a katykats wheel of excuses from this too
Phaunzie Posted March 30 Posted March 30 1 hour ago, slobro said: Like Gaga, Chappell already amassed a massive and loyal LGBT fanbase that will carry her for life(times) even if the GP abandons her, which will give her career way more longevity than Katy's. Katy was just a GP act, with very little die hard fans to speak of. The LGBT fanbase can't carry Chappell's career, we have seen numerous cases where girls that strictly rely on their LGBT fanbases flop hard and never recover. Like Gaga only got back into the GP's good graces after the Sound of Music performance. For Katy to be a GP only act, she would be flopping in all regards, however she is one of the top 15 female artists with songs over 1 billion streams (#6 behind Dua #5). Like she has 9 and that takes loyalty. Chappell has less than 2 and currently is having her every move scrutinize. Literally, she is being criticize by her own fanbase for her recent interview on Call Me Daddy, as well as she is still being criticize by her fans on her comments during the election. If you think that her fanbase is loyal, you have another thing coming because fan worship can be snatched away. 5 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said: My analysis of them: Billie Eilish : She's been successful and releasing great songs but in the last years she's been losing the spotlight to new artists and taylor. She's always successful but no the center of everything anymore like 2019-2020. Turning more into an underdog and thats not the greatest thing. I feel like a bad step could be damagin for her career and people will just pay less attention to her. At the same time her artistry is so good. That is helping her* i can see her repeaking if she comes with something powerful and new. The industry will give her more grammys Chappell Roan : Chappel is fresh and new but she's always involved in controversy and drama. Her career will be destroyed with the wrong comment* and the hate been breeding lately if you notice and everyone will obliterate her like britney even if she's successful. Its only the right timing. Doja Cat : There's no current cool black pop girl playing the commercial catchy lane in the game right now. She will keep being successful and people definitely dont give a **** about her controversies. She's the new Rihanna as long as her new music is good* Dua Lipa : Dua Is ambitious but i feel like her current team is very lost with things. Sometimes i feel like dua is the new kylie minogue. Olivia Rodrigo : Olivia career is in big risk cause she's asian and white american teen girls now have so many white artists to choose from. Olivia really needs to come with the best music of her career to win them over again* show better songwriting than everyone else to win that respect. Have interesting unique aesthetics* too With her sometimes i feel like she's one step away from oblivion or one step away from an adele-taylor-beyonce type of career Sabrina Carpenter : I see Sabrina as someone smart and in touch with the trends and highly ambitious but lately with the sex controversy i wonder if she's that smart cause thats been ruining her reputation.Sexy is loved. Raunchy is not.....and she's still doin it????? This type of bad moves leaded to katy perry to lose her career* She needs to show also more range music wise. The artists with the most loyal fanbase are the ones showin artistry early in their careers* SZA : Even if her music is good i think at one point a new aclaimed alternative black artist will come and replace her Tate McRae : Tate will fade to the bottom or will keep gettin bigger and her performing skills will help her. We need that illuminati ritual so she gets bigger Correct in every regard
hawx23 Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) Everyone keeps saying Dua but that ignores the worst part about Katy. It's not the songs (she has great ones) or the sexy image. It's the stupid cringey stuff that is completely unnecessary but has become part of her brand. And with that in mind, of the current Gen Z girls, only one could have the same problems. Edited March 30 by hawx23 1
FabForAThrowback Posted March 30 Posted March 30 5 hours ago, Pluto6 said: Let them first have a huge career like Katy, before we start using her as an example. Being the "Katy" of a generation means that you're most likely going to be one of the biggest female artists of all time AMEN
alexrex Posted March 30 Posted March 30 5 hours ago, RideOrDie said: wdym? katy is a legend and the #5th best female artist of the century with diamond singles and a diamond alboom, her career is flourishing, she will win a grammy on her next alboom, 143 was a misunderstood masterpiece, teenage dream is the biggest alboom of all time, her vocals never sounded better on her whitney houston covers and she is a brilliant songwriter who penned thinking of grammys when she was just 9 years old. she is still on top of the world as ATRL and twitter can't stop talking about her, so it just confirms she is always and will be relevant! Hide contents doja/dua #KatyInSpace2025
Riverbank Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) Sabrina Carpenter if she doesn't expand her brand beyond the oversexual bimbo persona. It's already being turned against her Edit: Just saw OP sneaked in Dua as if she hasn't been over and Katy Perry'd for a while now Edited March 30 by Riverbank 1
AvadaKedavra Posted March 30 Posted March 30 2 minutes ago, hawx23 said: Everyone keeps saying Dua but that ignores the worst part about Katy. It's not the songs (she has great ones) or the sexy image. It's the stupid cringey stuff that is completely unnecessary but has become part of her brand. And with that in mind, of the current Gen Z girls, only one could have the same problems. Tea. Katy perry biggest mistake was definitely turning from quirky sexy fun relatable lady to the clown of the class. It was just too much 2
AbracadaBer Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Dua was already Katy Perry'd Next one is Sabrina, no talent and schtick that is already getting old
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Katy had not just hits, but literally MASSIVE SMASHES consecutively for years I Kissed A Girl Hot N' Cold Waking Up In Vegas California Gurls Teenage Dream Firework ET Last Friday Night The One That Got Away Part Of Me Wide Awake Roar Dark Horse I can't think of a run of smashes that long besides Madonna or Mariah Carey 1
BrokenMachine Posted Saturday at 04:13 PM Posted Saturday at 04:13 PM (edited) On 3/30/2025 at 4:29 AM, eclipsed said: I feel the same about Dua but Dua probably has half the amount of fans or even less than Katy got during her peak Not true. Katy struggled to sell arenas during her peak, while Dua now is aiming to sell out stadiums Edited Saturday at 04:13 PM by BrokenMachine
JT55331 Posted Saturday at 06:31 PM Posted Saturday at 06:31 PM I agree with a lot of comments here. To be Katy Perry'd, you first need massive (and I mean massive) pop success with a sharp decline - think Paula Abdul. You can't be putting in girls like Sabrina (if she flops next album run) or Camila Cabello in the same category. They never reached the heights of Katy. We need to not just label any flop after any success as 'Katy Perry'd'
swiftsummer13 Posted Saturday at 06:39 PM Posted Saturday at 06:39 PM On 3/30/2025 at 3:31 PM, Spicy Pisces said: NONE of these girls were deemed "the female MJ" Well. Some of them look like a female MJ, so...
swiftsummer13 Posted Saturday at 06:39 PM Posted Saturday at 06:39 PM On 3/30/2025 at 3:31 PM, Spicy Pisces said: NONE of these girls were deemed "the female MJ" Well. Some of them look like a female MJ, so...
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