Helix Posted March 30 Posted March 30 24 minutes ago, eclipsed said: Dua is the obvious choice here. One of Katy's major issues was her music being made for radio and relying on the gp to make it a hit by doing that she neglected building up as strong as a fanbase as her peers did at the time. I feel the same about Dua but Dua probably has half the amount of fans or even less than Katy got during her peak Dua is already able to tour stadiums, a feat Katy never achieved. Yeah they both rely on the GP more than other acts but this doesn't always mean something bad. Dua became a beloved artist by both the GP and stans and enjoys being taken seriously while Katy became the laughting stock of the world. And I don't think something like that will ever happen to Dua (lets be honest she is too boring for thatΒ ) 1
Solaria Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Just now, Dante said: dua is over Β Dua is flying over to Auckland to two nights in a row on her highly acclaimed tour so far, yes that is correct!Β Β 3
Dante Posted March 30 Posted March 30 1 minute ago, Solaria said: Dua is flying over to Auckland to two nights in a row on her highly acclaimed tour so far, yes that is correct!Β Β highly acclaimed tour, when they start using acclaim for a tour you know it's over 1
Solaria Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Just now, Dante said: highly acclaimed tour, when they start using acclaim for a tour you know it's over Oh I'm so sorry, we can use highly succesful tour so far as well! Β Β Β 3
ΡΡβΞ±ΠΌ Posted March 30 Posted March 30 I said it before and i'll say it againΒ Sabrina is not gonna last longΒ 2 1
Harrier Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Any 'general public success' leaning pop girl is vulnerable to this, and Sabrina and Dua both fall squarely in that category. Artists with a more committed following like Chappel Roan, less so. But to be honest of these girls the only one I think will hold on to MPG level relevancy for years and years to come is Billie 3
Pinkbutterflies Posted March 30 Posted March 30 These ladies wish they could have their katy pery moment in the first place.Β 2
Dante Posted March 30 Posted March 30 3 minutes ago, ΡΡβΞ±ΠΌ said: I said it before and i'll say it againΒ Sabrina is not gonna last longΒ yeah she's a one era wonder
GipJo Posted March 30 Posted March 30 23 minutes ago, Pinkbutterflies said: These ladies wish they could have their katy pery moment in the first place.Β Different times. Nowadays, the level of success like Katy achieved for her singles are not realistically achievable anymore, many of the lists I think already achieved what Katy has done so during TD by today's standard. This is no longer the world where label and radio control what you hear. So in this age, Dua's FN, Billie's HMHAS, Sabrina's SNS are on the level of TD's singles imo.
GipJo Posted March 30 Posted March 30 29 minutes ago, Dante said: yeah she's a one era wonder She'll have at least a ''Prism'' just based off the success she has for SNS. After that, we'll have to see.
XXI. Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Genuine question⦠people are saying Dua is over, but Houdini is nearing a billion streams in just over a year on Spotify, while Training Season has 552 million and Illusion has 250 million...And Houdini even sparked a TikTok trend where people learned her dance break from the live performances.  I voted for Chappell Roan, though I think it's way too soon to tell. However, it seems like every time she speaks, people find what she's saying off-putting. 1
Phaunzie Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) I'm sry but some of them might not have the longevity like Katy. I like over 12 years (2008-2021) in the mainstream compared to only 2 at time of recording for most of the new gen. Sabrina could easily be replaced in the next two eras, Chappel could be gone even sooner, becoming this generations, Cyndi Lauper. Billie will probably get pass the 8-year mark. Olivia will mostly likely free-fall if she doesn't evolve in her next era. Dua is in a dry spell but, like she still has the cool factor that the rest of them beside Billie don't have. Like, compared to the other new gen, they have the most straight fan retention (the most loyal & largest number of fans).Β Β 51 minutes ago, slobro said: Chappelle already has a way bigger fanbase than Katy ever had. Β OT: Doja sadly. She's incredibly talented but seems to have no loyal fanbase. Doja still has a loyal fanbase and she could easily comeback. Chappell on the other hand, is the novelty pop girl of the moment who the media doesn't like. Chappell doesn't have a bigger fanbase that Katy ever had, she is just bolstered by the GP's fleeting interest in the weirdo of the moment. I love Chappell but, girl let's be honest the GP are going to chew her up and spit her out when they get bored. She will have a relatively adequate fanbase, let's not act like the cringe, hard to work with, annoying and miserable accusations aren't lined up the moment she steps out of line. Edited March 30 by Phaunzie
Pop Art Posted March 30 Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Aston Martin said: Katy's two problems were image during Witness + not building a larger core fanbase at her peak. So keeping that in mind:Β Β Sabrina's built a fanbase but her image has started to get a bit of backlash. She has time to fix this though. Her next album just has to change it up image wise.Β Β Dua's image is fine, but she didn't build as large of a core fanbase as her peers. That could be a problem if the hits dry up. But I don't foresee her getting a public backlash anytime soon (plus she does well with touring too).Β Β Doja had image problems from pissing off her fanbase, but they didn't stop PTTR and Agora Hills from smashing. She's been pretty low key since though and I don't think any of that will follow her into Vie. Her range in terms of genres will serve her well too.Β Β So a few artists could end up with that fate, but I think it's fixable in all cases as of right now. And no one can predict the future anyways.Β Pretty much hit the nail on the head. These three are the biggest contenders for a variety of reasons, but we'll have to wait and see. Β You could argue Dua and Doja have already started down the Katy downfall path, but we'll need to see how their next era goes to confirm. I think they still have it in them to turn things around for now.
IBeMe Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Sabrina but she can avoid it if she pivots from the lame humor before it looks and feels too cringe. Sometime in her early 30s she will have to change that energy up a little and she likely will cuz i think she is smarter than Katy 1
Julia Fox Posted March 30 Posted March 30 People saying Sabrina forgot she has a established and dedicated loyal fanbase + she has the versatility, the talent, the experience and an acting career to back it up anything she wants to do. Β Some of you all dont know that Sabrina can do R&B, pop, country, folk, EDM, musicals, big ballads and whatever style she wants because her voice could blend well on any genre, that's says a lot about reinventing and succeeding at itΒ 2 1
Phaunzie Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Helix said: Dua is already able to tour stadiums, a feat Katy never achieved. Yeah they both rely on the GP more than other acts but this doesn't always mean something bad. Dua became a beloved artist by both the GP and stans and enjoys being taken seriously while Katy became the laughting stock of the world. And I don't think something like that will ever happen to Dua (lets be honest she is too boring for thatΒ ) Katy never did stadiums because she liked the arena tours more and also it is easier for people to see the production of the tour. She can do a stadium tour if she wanted to during TD, Prism and even Witness. Actually, Katy become the butt of the joke because she became political for Witness, actively & publicly endorsed Hillary Clinton and the media needed a punching bag for the Trump era. Like, Dua isn't American, she is Albanian obviously her politics are not going to anger the media and make them turn on her.Β Β Also, Katy had a drastic reinvention which Dua will never do.Β Edited March 30 by Phaunzie
Paultea Posted March 30 Posted March 30 It will be interesting to see how it goes for Sabrina performing her current music when she's older. I don't think this, but people already describe some stuff she does as cringy and it gets overlooked because she's young and pretty. Once she turns 40, the misogynists will be out in full force.Β
Almighty Gaga Posted March 30 Posted March 30 All the aggressively payola'd ones will. Dua is already there and Sabrina is next. 1
ifyouseekLEM Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Honestly, I think these girlsΒ WISH they could be Katy Perry'd. While Katy's fall from grace was historic, her peak was also insane. I don't see any of these girls reaching those sort of heights to begin with.Β 1
Tylerbv Posted March 30 Posted March 30 If Chappell keeps alienating her fans by coming off as negative and unlikeable in interviews, her.
Trent W Posted March 30 Posted March 30 I think only Billie and maybe Olivia are comparable to Katy in her peak in terms of success Β Her 2008-2015 run was absolutely insane Β I also think her decline was so steep and incredible sudden that is unlikely we see something like that in a very long time
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