charts discussion HDD teases ~500k first week debut for Morgan Wallen's upcoming album I'm The Problem

[Armani.]

34 minutes ago, Robyn. said:

Pop(ular) culture is about appealing to MOST audiences.

 

Hope this helps, since we're on a POP forum.

 

You're coping for no reason

 

A large part of the US likes his music clearly even though it's not even that good.

 

Like he has a Diamond eligible album, what is this mental gymnastics convo

[Seeyuh]

tim mcgraw & nelly is probably the last time a country song went worldwide 

Edited March 27 by Seeyuh

[Katamari]

6 minutes ago, Seeyuh said:

they use the same arguments against hip hop. some rappers dont even tour outside US and Canada

I remember seeing one of the dumbest posts ever in the rod wave thread 

 This site talking global reach on us based charts always triggers me lowkey

[Robyn.]

1 minute ago, Armani. said:

You're coping for no reason

 

A large part of the US likes his music clearly even though it's not even that good.

I don't have to cope with anything, because he is genuinely IRRELEVANT to everything surrounding me...  

 

But congratulations on having him being a huge US act apparently, get that win... 

 

 

 

[KingWitch]

Lol the problem is the people who cancelled him for the n word controversy were never his audience to begin with , so the cancelation did nothing. Now he's bigger than almost all our faves 

 

[Seeyuh]

4 minutes ago, Katamari said:

I remember seeing one of the dumbest posts ever in the rod wave thread 

 This site talking global reach on us based charts always triggers me lowkey

they act like pop music wasnt created with European ears in mind. all the producers are swedish 

[Robyn.]

16 minutes ago, Seeyuh said:

they use the same arguments against hip hop. some rappers dont even tour outside US and Canada

"some rappers" 

 

the biggest rappers have toured Europe for instance...  

Eminem, 50 Cent, Nicki, etc.

 

Y'all really act like people from outside the US are disconnected from US artists, when social media exists.

[xperience30]

Where is Taylor when you need her 

[Seeyuh]

2 minutes ago, Robyn. said:

"some rappers" 

 

the biggest rappers have toured Europe for instance...  

Eminem, 50 Cent, Nicki, etc.

 

Y'all really act like people from outside the US are disconnected from US artists, when social media exists.

they had to become bigger than the genre to do that. any B list popstar can tour europe right now with no problem

 

B list rappers can not

[Bloodflowers.]

That's a very pretty album cover 

 

But only Kacey Musgraves deserves this type of success in country music! Justice for Deeper Well! 

 

[family.guy123]

Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Ireland, Netherlands, Scotland are recent countries he's held concerts in 

[Robyn.]

1 minute ago, Seeyuh said:

they had to become bigger than the genre to do that. any B list popstar can tour europe right now with no problem

 

B list rappers can not

Any rapper selling 500k first week in the US would be expected to sell arenas outside the US too.

 

That's literally how super stardom works, and it starts in the US... 

[Bloodflowers.]

18 minutes ago, Seeyuh said:

tim mcgraw & nelly is probably the last time a country song went worldwide 

 

Meant to Be by Bebe Rexha says hi 

 

[Seeyuh]

1 minute ago, Robyn. said:

Any rapper selling 500k first week in the US would be expected to sell arenas outside the US too.

 

That's literally how super stardom works, and it starts in the US... 

u dont see the discrepancy in B list popstars touring europe and B list rappers touring US and Canada

Edited March 27 by Seeyuh

[Bloodflowers.]

16 minutes ago, Katamari said:

I remember seeing one of the dumbest posts ever in the rod wave thread 

 This site talking global reach on us based charts always triggers me lowkey

 

Nobody talks about if Maluma, Bad Bunny or some K-Pop act don't have international reach, but fume if a musician is US focused and doesn't even try to appeal European, Latin or Asian markets as if it's forbidden for them as an American to make music consumed by only American locals living in suburban and rural areas and not for big city, brat girls and LGBT demographics 

 

[Robyn.]

2 minutes ago, Seeyuh said:

u dont see the discrepancy in B list popstars touring europe and B list rappers touring US and Canada

No one is mentioning B-list rappers but you, lmao.

 

The point is you'd expect an american act's popularity to translate into global popularity, which is the natural order of things.

500k sales first week is definitely supposed to make noise all around the world, but it isn't. 

[Robyn.]

4 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

Nobody talks about if Maluma, Bad Bunny or some K-Pop act don't have international reach, but fume if a musician is US focused and doesn't even try to appeal European, Latin or Asian markets as if it's forbidden for them as an American to make music consumed by only American locals living in suburban and rural areas and not for big city, brat girls and LGBT demographics 

 

Because Asian, or latin markets, are already LOCAL themselves... 

 

Whereas music stars are created from the US market...

[Seeyuh]

4 minutes ago, Robyn. said:

No one is mentioning B-list rappers but you, lmao.

 

The point is you'd expect an american act's popularity to translate into global popularity, which is the natural order of things.

500k sales first week is definitely supposed to make noise all around the world, but it isn't. 

im trying to explain to u like ur 5. some genres (country and american hip hop) are inherently american, canadian, it doesnt always translate.  

[Robyn.]

Just now, Seeyuh said:

im trying to explain to u like ur 5. some genres (country and american hip hop) are inherently american, canadian, it doesnt always translate.  

you guys say this about hip hop and yet many huge US rap acts, are known outside the US?  

 

Everybody knows Jay-Z, Eminem, 50 cent, Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, etc. 

And that's because US culture has a huge impact on the rest of the world. If the world rejects country, it's because it sucks, not because they're not aware of it.  

[Seeyuh]

2 minutes ago, Robyn. said:

you guys say this about hip hop and yet many huge US rap acts, are known outside the US?  

 

Everybody knows Jay-Z, Eminem, 50 cent, Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, etc. 

And that's because US culture has a huge impact on the rest of the world. If the world rejects country, it's because it sucks, not because they're not aware of it.  

this is what the average hip hop tour looks like

 

 

[1989]

Not him steadily continuing to outsell all the girls but Taylor 

 

Also, I find everything about this man to be gross, but ATRL really will do anything to downplay or deny success. Suggesting that sales shouldn't be taken into account when reflecting on something's popularity…

[Solaria]

TAYLOR PLEASEEEEE RELEASE A 40 TRACK ALBUM IM BEGGING

[family.guy123]

1 minute ago, Solaria said:

TAYLOR PLEASEEEEE RELEASE A 40 TRACK ALBUM IM BEGGING

Last I check both Midnights and TTPD both had track lists well beyond 40+ songs after all was said and done 

[BtDecember]

16 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

Last I check both Midnights and TTPD both had track lists well beyond 40+ songs after all was said and done 

??

 

Midnights has 22 tracks (13 standard + 7 3am tracks + Hits Different + You're Losing Me)

 

TTPD has 31 tracks (16 standard + 13 The Anthology tracks)

 

Remixes don't count.

[Robyn.]

29 minutes ago, Seeyuh said:

this is what the average hip hop tour looks like

 

 

Those are not actual Touring stats…

hopefully you learn Twitter made images are not reality