celeb news Robbie Williams: "Taylor Swift didn't realize how famous I am"

[ChooseyLover]

20 minutes ago, Tropez said:

The world doesn't revolve around the UK or the US to be making such grandiose statements. 

If we're generalizing, Pop music does for the most part especially in the past when K-Pop, J-Pop and Latin Pop were inherently more local than they are now. This forum itself is centered around music in English outside of a very specific K-Pop community. Don't be obtuse.

 

And to be fair, I'll correct myself and say Pop music outside of America in general keeps saving Pop music from being down bad, at least for me.

Edited 13 hours ago by ChooseyLover

[Tropez]

5 minutes ago, ChooseyLover said:

If we're generalizing, Pop music does for the most part especially in the past when K-Pop, J-Pop and Latin Pop were inherently more local than they are now. This forum itself is centered around music in English outside of a very specific K-Pop community. Don't be obtuse.

Not being obtuse. Your comment just comes off as extremely Anglo-centric. 

[Rotunda]

28 minutes ago, ChooseyLover said:

This random circle jeck of users hating on Robbie...  You have to be either tasteless or bitter. Brit Pop has often saved the world from the Pop scene being outrageously down bad because of American contributions. 

How can people be bitter at someone they don't know

[ChooseyLover]

1 minute ago, Rotunda said:

How can people be bitter at someone they don't know

Because they are bitter at life. This is ATRL, honey.

Edited 13 hours ago by ChooseyLover

[Doogle]

He's a bit of a muppet I'm not a big fan but he was huge globally it's so cringe when ppl under 16 and/or Americans state "no one knows who this is" just because you don't lmao

[Bhabylon]

Why are the swifties seething over such a harmless nothing comment  y'all are so miserable 

[queenoftheclouds]

2 hours ago, Pikachoo said:

no one outside the UK knows him

Outside of Europe please.

[Rep2000]

2 hours ago, ChooseyLover said:

This random circle jeck of users hating on Robbie...  You have to be either tasteless or bitter. Brit Pop has often saved the world from the Pop scene being outrageously down bad because of American contributions. 

We can't hate on someone we don't even know. And he's a fad at best, local at worst.

Also, not the "Brit Pop saved the world"! 

[Rep2000]

1 hour ago, Doogle said:

He's a bit of a muppet I'm not a big fan but he was huge globally it's so cringe when ppl under 16 and/or Americans state "no one knows who this is" just because you don't lmao

Tell that to his current flopped biopic lol. The demands are simply not there.

[Soda Pop Queen]

1 hour ago, Doogle said:

He's a bit of a muppet I'm not a big fan but he was huge globally it's so cringe when ppl under 16 and/or Americans state "no one knows who this is" just because you don't lmao

lol

just like the US =/= the world, UK/Europe =/= global either. You have to be big on both sides of the Atlantic plus other regions of the world to be considered truly a global superstar. Robbie ain't it.

[Doogle]

5 minutes ago, Rep2000 said:

Tell that to his current flopped biopic lol. The demands are simply not there.

No I am aware that no one cares for him now, I'd never argue that lol. This film is 15 years too late and shouldn't have had a monkey as the main character, he's just chatting **** on his press run and using Taylor for attention

Edited 11 hours ago by Doogle

[Doogle]

5 minutes ago, Soda Pop Queen said:

lol

just like the US =/= the world, UK/Europe =/= global either. You have to be big on both sides of the Atlantic plus other regions of the world to be considered truly a global superstar. Robbie ain't it.

He was big in Australia and I saw something say "he is the best selling non-Latino artist in Latin America." idk if that's true though. I think he was bigger than just Europe. Again heavy on past tense

[Rep2000]

5 minutes ago, Doogle said:

No I am aware that no one cares for him now, I'd never argue that lol. This film is 15 years too late and shouldn't have had a monkey as the main character, he's just chatting **** on his press run and using Taylor for attention

Yeah, the movie is flopping so hard it's going down as the biggest flop in movie history.

And with a such aggressive ad campaign as well. 

Edited 11 hours ago by Rep2000

[Loca]

1 hour ago, Rep2000 said:

Yeah, the movie is flopping so hard it's going down as the biggest flop in movie history.

And with a such aggressive ad campaign as well. 

Cats had a budget of 100M and only made 75M at the box office

Edited 10 hours ago by Loca

[Peak Now]

This won't help the biopic btw 

[burninredhot]

4 hours ago, Elusive Chanteuse said:

He's one of the most famous artist outside of the USA. 

Europe ≠ Outside the USA

[Dante Silva]

I've always known about him but was never a fan. It was weird enough when Blur thought it would be a good idea to do Coachella and then Robbie appeared on "Andy Cohen Live". 
 

I guess they have people around them who assume their longtime presence online equates to fame in the U.S. (when it doesn't).

 

Sophie Ellis-Bextor gets a free pass because the "Saltburn" movie did actually give her a profile in that market.

[Bloodflowers.]

She was shocked at what a classic Angels is, I was too a few months ago after I gave it a listen after so many years

[tiagol88]

5 hours ago, Pikachoo said:

no one outside the UK knows him

He might be the one of the biggest European solo acts ever 

[Uncatena]

4 hours ago, J-esper said:

Reading some of the replies gives me a headache

Robbie is on a press tour for his biopic. Ofcourse outlets and he and his team are going to highlight topics/career moments that can produce headlines and clicks

Just like every celeb biography has exaggerated stories and people named that can produce media coverage and headlines

also the amount of "you're local, only famous in the UK" replies when this was in LONDON, in a stadium that Robbie has sold out on his own more than once.... basic comprehension is dwindling so fast...

Edited 9 hours ago by Uncatena

[SpaceOddity]

4 hours ago, MatiRod said:

Robbie was the biggest international male artist in the UK, mainland Europe, Australia/NZ and Latin America from the late 90s to mid 2000s. He was never popular in America/Canada however. But in all those other places he was huge, smash after smash, arenas etc.

Trying to downplay the success and impact he's had worldwide for two decades is not the gotcha moment they think it is. Alas, Americans thinking the world revolves around America, nothing new lol. 

[Alaska.]

You're all so annoying. Just because he isn't big in the US doesn't mean people don't know him

 

I might not know all of his hits, but I know his name since I was a kid, and I'm not from the UK

[ChooseyLover]

3 hours ago, Rep2000 said:

We can't hate on someone we don't even know. And he's a fad at best, local at worst.

Also, not the "Brit Pop saved the world"! 

Figurative: 

1. (of words and phrases) used not with their basic meaning but with a more imaginative meaning, in order to create a special effect.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/figurative
 

I'd also send the meaning of sales stan and insufferable Swiftie but those are self-explanatory.

Edited 8 hours ago by ChooseyLover

[Dante Silva]

Anyway, his biggest hit was this (which he stole from a poor Irish songwriter - but that's another story), the view count should speak for itself: 

 

Seven years later Jessica Simpson's people thought it so good that they had her cover it for the U.S. market as the opening track on her third album "In This Skin", and insert R&B vocal licks:

 

I don't think her version had the intended impact.

[Princess Aurora]

Well, he's still a flop

Edited 9 hours ago by Princess Aurora