news Israel & Hamas agree to ceasefire

[Lover]

the power of the young men's christian association

[Breathe On Moi]

19 hours ago, loliza said:

Like idk where this poster and the ones quoted by him have been in the last 2 years.

 

Biden never cared

I mean I will bookmark this, because if there's one thing I know about Trump is he always make a fool out of people that believe in him, and I will be seated to remind ya. 

[Communion]

24 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said:

I mean I will bookmark this, because if there's one thing I know about Trump is he always make a fool out of people that believe in him, and I will be seated to remind ya. 

What are you not understanding?

 

No one is praising Trump. The reality is thst Harris and Biden were so committed to genocide that they were outsmarted by someone just as evil. There's no 2nd place price for being pro-genocide but in a democratic~* way. 

 

You need to understand if you've unconditionally supported Democrats over the last year, you are now rightfully a pariah. You will rightfully be the victim of public shaming and ostracized from public discourse. Why would anyone want to give platform to people who ended up on the wrong side of history?

 

However you viewed Republicans who supported GWB until he ended his 2nd term in shame, that's you now. 

 

Sometimes it's okay to go away and reflect on why your worldview is wrong. 

[Breathe On Moi]

42 minutes ago, Communion said:

Sometimes it's okay to go away and reflect on why your worldview is wrong. 

the irony, much love my dear old friend.  reminder you have 4 more days to still moan and make threads about this current administration. 

[DAP]

 

[IBeMe]

1 hour ago, DAP said:

 

Trump will have to send his envoy again and gather bibi's ass AGAIN. I am under no illusion that Trump is doing this out of altruistic reasons BUT he does have the backbone that Biden never had to say NO to Israel for his own motives and image. Bibi did these last minute switch ups LOTS with Biden and Biden let it slide each time which is why this war has last this long. Trump will have to double down with the stick to get this done and he is more likely to do it than Biden or his secretary of state Blinken.

[IBeMe]

4 hours ago, Lover said:

the power of the young men's christian association

wait im curious what u mean by this lol! plz elaborate (legit question because I am curious to know what u mean since I have indeed seen some Catholics specifically who were very supportive of Gaza tbh which was rather surprising.) 

[Virgos Groove]

52 minutes ago, IBeMe said:

wait im curious what u mean by this lol! plz elaborate (legit question because I am curious to know what u mean since I have indeed seen some Catholics specifically who were very supportive of Gaza tbh which was rather surprising.) 

 

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Breathe On Moi said:

the irony

I think it kills yall that the election - if anything - proved progressives right. 

 

To be clear, I hate being right! 

 

But nothing will ever change for as long as liberals don't realize what they believed simply doesn't work anymore. 

 

We are closing the chapter on the Clinton-Bush-Obama era of politics to build and develop something new and yall are refusing to meet us in the present, lamenting the honor of your fallen soldiers (HRC, JRB).

[Onyxmage]

3 hours ago, Communion said:

What are you not understanding?

 

No one is praising Trump. The reality is thst Harris and Biden were so committed to genocide that they were outsmarted by someone just as evil. There's no 2nd place price for being pro-genocide but in a democratic~* way. 

 

You need to understand if you've unconditionally supported Democrats over the last year, you are now rightfully a pariah. You will rightfully be the victim of public shaming and ostracized from public discourse. Why would anyone want to give platform to people who ended up on the wrong side of history?

 

However you viewed Republicans who supported GWB until he ended his 2nd term in shame, that's you now. 

 

Sometimes it's okay to go away and reflect on why your worldview is wrong. 

every republican in congress has unequivocally supported  and voted to fund the bombings in gaza as well but democrats are the only ones on the wrong side of history? Your hard on for the right is showing at least try to make it a little less obvious next time.

[IBeMe]

8 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

every republican in congress has unequivocally supported  and voted to fund the bombings in gaza as well but democrats are the only ones on the wrong side of history? Your hard on for the right is showing at least try to make it a little less obvious next time.

he isnt saying republicans are good guys. He is saying the democrats need to wake up and challenge the republicans and truth be told the only way to do that properly now is via more left wing populism, anti war stances and some elements of socialism too. Yes the democrats overall tend to be a lot better than republicans on pretty much every single thing but the democrats have been eroding their base lately and to meet the new challenge and very obvious new wave of politics we are facing we need a populist / socialist left movement to emerge. Tacking to the center does not work! no one was diet coke...ppl tend to want the real thing and so they go for the republicans if they have some conservative values. We need to activate our dorment left wing base and excite them. Holding onto establishment figures and principles is REALLY not going to work especially with the new generagtion of millenials and gen z voters tbh...one can make the argument that tho Trump won he only won by a slight margin but i think it is a sign of a larger wave that will SMASH the democrats harder in 2028 if they keep this neocon-lib veneer & look. 

[Communion]

11 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

every republican in congress has unequivocally supported  and voted to fund the bombings in gaza as well but democrats are the only ones on the wrong side of history?

YOURE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY BECAUSE YOJRE ACTING THE SAME WAY AS REPUBLICANS, YOU SOCK PUPPET 

[State of Grace.]

 

 

Queen has said it all. The braindead genocide apologists will continue acting like people are praising Trump or crediting him for this deal (although i gotta admit the way he secured this symbolic "win" days before getting into office is hilarious after the so-called "tirelessly working for a ceasefire" days.). Not even the historical FLOP of their candidate was enough for them to reconsider their way of thinking. And that's why the entire Democratic party and its blind supporters deserve everything coming their way.

Edited Thursday at 06:52 PM by State of Grace.

[loliza]

4 hours ago, Breathe On Moi said:

I mean I will bookmark this, because if there's one thing I know about Trump is he always make a fool out of people that believe in him, and I will be seated to remind ya. 

I think you have a problem due to a lack of critical thinking. I never claimed that Trump was good, that there would be peace with him - I mean, in the previous post I clearly stated that there will most likely be the annexation of the West Bank and/or breaking of the truce for a trivial reason. What I was trying - invain - to make you understand is that Biden never cared, because with minimal pressure a ceasefire was achieved. I'm sorry that you can only think in terms of cheerleading, if you want to hear whaterver thousands died but you were right to vote him ok

[loliza]

22 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

 

 

Queen has said it all. The braindead genocide apologists will continue acting like people are praising Trump or crediting him for this deal (although i gotta admit the way he secured this symbolic "win" days before getting into office is hilarious after the so-called "tirelessly working for a ceasefire" days.). Not even the historical FLOP of their candidate was enough for them to reconsider their way of thinking. And that's why the entire Democratic party and its blind supporters deserve everything coming their way.

All of this

[Bloo]

18 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

Queen has said it all. The braindead genocide apologists will continue acting like people are praising Trump or crediting him for this deal (although i gotta admit the way he secured this symbolic "win" days before getting into office is hilarious after the so-called "tirelessly working for a ceasefire" days.). Not even the historical FLOP of their candidate was enough for them to reconsider their way of thinking. And that's why the entire Democratic party and its blind supporters deserve everything coming their way.

This absolutist need to be opposite of Trump on everything is one of the biggest weaknesses of American liberal nowadays. Don't get me wrong, I hate Trump and I do not give him flowers for pressuring Netanyahu for a ceasefire for vanity. However, there are more surface level examples where liberals are unable to acknowledge strengths of Donald Trump and how we could learn from some of his political successes. For instance, Donald Trump was a very present president. He never went away. While this was annoying, it often gave the impression he was responsive to current events. When the lockdowns for COVID-19 first began, Trump's approval went up because he was quick to show up in press briefings everyday (eventually, people would tire of this because he's a mess of a person and looked to... Andrew Cuomo instead). 

 

A simpler example of what I mean is the initial stimulus checks Trump sent out in 2020. There was a moment where Trump decided to halt the release of the checks so he could ensure each American citizen got a letter explaining what the check is with his signature on it. Democrats, at the time, attacked him for this because it was "self-promotion" when, really, it was just good politics. Trump is a narcissist with hyper-fascistic tendencies. That's for sure. But, there are things to learn from how he engages with the public that can be adapted. Biden opting to be a "quiet president" in order to "respect the office" only gave the impression that he wasn't doing his job or was unable to do his job.

 

There are lessons to learn from Trump. The lesson here is that the bully pulpit works and the office of the president(-elect) has power that Biden chose not to use. There was no excuse for Biden to forego pressuring Netanyahu. But, hyper-partisan liberals are refusing to learn this very simple lesson.

[Roberto]

7 hours ago, Lover said:

the power of the young men's christian association

This whole sentence sounds like a Lana album title. 

[IBeMe]

Trump confirms he pressured Bibi and is proudly taking credit for it....Democratic elites see this as blasphemous to admit to going against bibi in ANY way at all:  

[Thesedays]

10 hours ago, Breathe On Moi said:

the irony, much love my dear old friend.  reminder you have 4 more days to still moan and make threads about this current administration. 

I wonder how's the sick mind of someone that is more concerned over defending Biden online than the fact that he actually enabled the biggest genocide our generation has witnessed. 

[Vermillion]

this is apparently in steps and I give it just a few weeks till it's broken because the window apparently is six that everyone's talking about. I think he's the one breaking this news, but I'm not sure. whatever.

 

 

[SmittenCake]

 

 

 

[Cesar]

wait, didn't trump tell netanyahu to hold on the ceasefire deal until after the election. wouldn't be surprised if it was their plan all along 

 

the ceasefire not gonna last long unfortunately, and now with trump he'll probably be given even more ammo i feel

[La Reina]

Democrats unfortunately lost everything: the election, the narrative, the culture war, and now Biden gets Jimmy Carter'd and Trump will be (falsely) seen as a Reagan-like saint that is already saving the U.S. even without being formally inaugurated yet.

 

This is truly insane how WRONG it all turned out in this timeline. And this is just the beginning.

[Vermillion]

 

[The Guv'nah]

Nothing but respect for MY president