base talk the complete MPG list?

[Dante Silva]

To not have Donna Summer and Debbie Harry in the 70s is a choice.

 

You should also have Janis Joplin, Mama Cass, Dusty Springfield, Diana Ross for the 1960's.

 

Edited Saturday at 08:52 PM by Dante Silva

[holyground13]

2 hours ago, MidnightsAtPeace said:

I don't think we should be organizing MPGs in terms of the decade they debut or rose to fame. A generational approach seems more fitting and rational. (for example Britney and Christina were barely active in the 90s considering they debuted in 1999/1998)

 

With that being said, this is how I personally would organize/categorize them (each generation will only consist of five artists that I think were the zeitgeist of their own generation the most)

 

First generation (obv my knowledge on older divas is very slim so I won't be categegorizing them):

• Tina Turner

• Cher

• Aretha Franklin

• Diana Ross

• Joni Mitchell (only by my standards)

 

Second generation:

• Madonna

• Celine Dion

• Janet Jackson

• Whitney Houston 

• Cyndi Lauper 

 

Third generation:

• Britney Spears

• Christina Aguilera 

• Beyoncé

• P!nk

• Mariah Carey

 

Fouth generation:

• Taylor Swift 

• Lady Gaga

• Katy Perry

• Rihanna

• Adele

 

Fifth and the newest generation:

• Olivia Rodrigo 

• Billie Eilish 

• Dua Lipa

• Chappell Roan 

• Doja Cat

 

Artists like Ariana, Lana, and Nicki do not belong to any of the generations because they debut or rose to fame between two different generations, or at least that's how I look at it.

I think there's merit to this approach rather than by decade. The main reason why I think that is because I think the arrival of three particular pop girls have spear(s)headed their particular generations of pop music (Madonna, Britney Spears and Lady Gaga). These artists' rises were very fast, they're all very pop and controversial and affected everything around them in pop - they influenced similar artists to them and spawned their anthesises. Though there's some ish with that approach because other artists such as Beyoncé, Amy Winehouse and Taylor Swift have had huge impact in pop / culture too.

 

I'd also definitely put Mariah in the second generation if it was by this list^.

 

If I was going by your original list I'd amend it to this but I could be way off:

 

3 hours ago, goverm3nth0ker said:

 

 70s: Tina, Cher, Aretha, Olivia

80s: Madonna, Janet, Whitney, Paula Abdul, Cyndi Lauper, Kate Bush

90s: Mariah, Celine, Kylie, Alanis, Shakira, Shania, Bjork

00s: Britney, Christina, Rihanna, Beyoncé, Amy Winehouse, Gwen, JLo, Avril, P!nk (maybe Nelly Furtado, Fergie & Kelly Clarkson too)

Late 00s: Gaga, Katy, Nicki, Adele, Miley, Taylor, Selena, Demi

Late 10s: Ariana, Lana, Halsey, Camila, Dua, Billie, Doja, SZA

20s, Olivia, Charli, Gracie, Sabrina, Chappell

 

 

Edited Saturday at 08:58 PM by holyground13

[WEEKND]

29 minutes ago, ericcartman said:

Honestly just keep it simple and concise 

 

Trailblazers: Diana Ross, Cher, Donna Summer, Aretha Franklin , Dionne Warwick 

 

The OGs: Madonna, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey

 

The Golden age: Beyonce, Britney Spears, Taylor Swift, Rihanna, Lady Gaga

 

The new age: Ariana Grande, Billie Eillish, the rest remain to be seen

This is the most accurate list but Celine Dion and Barbra are missing 

[Esb200713]

40 minutes ago, modeblock said:

Being an MPG is not just about hits, it needs to be 360 degrees of slayage: you need EVERYTHING!!

 

cultural relevance (impact)

chart success (MULTIPLE #1s singles and albums)

touring success (demand to tour the globe)

established stanbase 

household name (cross-generational awareness)

longevity (at least 4 successful eras)

 

 

Since so, many debuts in different decades, but peaked in different decades as well. I just went ahead and put the decades that were dominated by particular women so you may see one MPG more than once, but here's my list as far as MPG goes.

 

 

60s:  The Supremes(Diana Ross), Dionne, Aretha, 

 

70's Barbara, Diana, Donna, 

 

80's Cyndi, Madonna, Janet, Whitney, Paula, Tina

 

90's Mariah, Whitney, Madonna, Celine, 

 

00's Britney, Pink, Christina, Beyonce, Rihanna, Shakira

 

10's Katy, Gaga, Rihanna, Taylor, Adele

 

00's Doja, Dua, Billie, Taylor, Olivia, Sabrina, Chappell

[Robburro]

3 hours ago, Loca said:

You are missing Diana Ross and Donna Summer. Barbra Streisand too

 

Is that Kate supposed to br Kate Bush? She is not a MPG

 

Gwen Nelly and Fergie are not MPGs

 

J.Lo, Avril, Kelly, Miley, Selena, Demi, Halsey, Camila, Dua, Charli, Gracie, Chappell….all sneaks 

yeah the girl who is the biggest inspiration of the two biggest pop girls from Gen Z is a sneak

 

make me laugh

[Delirious]

If you're gonna put Lana, Halsey, Camila and Dua as 10s then Ellie Goulding definitely belongs there lol

[Oktober Knight]

Cyndi Lauper and Paula Abdul need to be added to the 80s

[uusagii]

20s: Romy Mars

[MattieB]

The way some of yall omitting Janet isn't sitting well with me

[DanyelP23]

9 hours ago, goverm3nth0ker said:

im doing a research for my journalism project on how female singers have evolved by era and how one benefits from the other like, they pave the way and the legacy they leave behind. being a woman in the music world and how different styles, topics and the way they inspire art could be, and i need atrl help if i miss anyone

 

before 70s i dont have idea s

 70s: Tina, Cher, Aretha, Olivia

80s: Janet, Whitney, Celine, Kate, Madonna ofc

90s: Mariah, Christina, Britney, Kylie

00s: Nelly, Rihanna, Beyonce, Fergie, Gwen, Shakira, JLo, Avril, Kelly, P!nk, Katy, Gaga, Nicki, Adele, Miley, Taylor, Selena, Demi

10s: Ariana, Lana, Halsey, Camila, Dua, Billie.

20s: Doja, Olivia, Charli, Gracie, Sabrina, Chappell, SZA

 

can you add another?

 

I'll speak only on what I'm familiar.

 

How do Demi and Selena fit in as MPGs? I can understand Miley after 'Flowers', but not these 2. Selena had cute little musical moments here and there (peaking with her between album droplets imho), but she never seemed to me as someone who DOMINATED the conversation from a musical point of view at any given time (her fame had more to do with her lifestyle business endeavors and she carried that into acting). I don't see Demi at all belonging to the conversation.

 

Same for Halsey (having a fan-base and a few quick little singles doesn't make one an MPG) and Camila Cabello (just the singles).

 

And yes, one can be an MPG without charts criteria, (see Lana), provided they have the necessary cultural influence.

Gracie and Chappell (and I guess to a much lesser extent Sabrina) still need more time before we can call them full fledged MPGs.

 

 

[Alldeezy]

who TF is Gracie?  and way your missing Taylor can hate her but she is one of the biggest female singers of this decade. 

 

oh wait i see taylor in 00s tho I think she turned more of a MPG in 10s unless your adding from when they debuted? 

 

[unclefloprry]

12 hours ago, goverm3nth0ker said:

70s: Tina, Cher, Aretha, Olivia

80s: Janet, Whitney, Celine, Madonna ofc

90s: Mariah, Britney

00s: Rihanna, Beyonce, Shakira, Avril, Katy, Gaga, Adele, Miley, Taylor

10s: Ariana, Lana, Dua, Billie.

20s: Doja

Fixed* 

 

all of them have hits, fame, celebrity power, can fill arenas/stadiums AROUND THE WORLD not just 1-3 random cities, big eras, big performances and impact in pop culture