base talk the complete MPG list?

[goverm3nth0ker]

im doing a research for my journalism project on how female singers have evolved by era and how one benefits from the other like, they pave the way and the legacy they leave behind. being a woman in the music world and how different styles, topics and the way they inspire art could be, and i need atrl help if i miss anyone

 

before 70s i dont have idea s

 70s: Tina, Cher, Aretha, Olivia

80s: Janet, Whitney, Celine, Kate, Madonna ofc

90s: Mariah, Christina, Britney, Kylie

00s: Nelly, Rihanna, Beyonce, Fergie, Gwen, Shakira, JLo, Avril, Kelly, P!nk, Katy, Gaga, Nicki, Adele, Miley, Taylor, Selena, Demi

10s: Ariana, Lana, Halsey, Camila, Dua, Billie.

20s: Doja, Olivia, Charli, Gracie, Sabrina, Chappell, SZA

 

can you add another?

 

Edited Saturday at 05:25 PM by goverm3nth0ker

[Kayseri Mantisi]

16 minutes ago, goverm3nth0ker said:

and i need atrl help if i miss anyone

you're missing the most important name for 10s, Lorde.

Edited Saturday at 05:39 PM by Kayseri Mantisi

[Tusk]

Stevie Nicks: 70s

 

Celine was 90s, not 80s

[Johnny Jacobs]

10 minutes ago, goverm3nth0ker said:

Gracie

 

[John Slayne]

i see several sneaks 

 

Edited Saturday at 05:41 PM by John Slayne

[Loca]

You are missing Diana Ross and Donna Summer. Barbra Streisand too

 

Is that Kate supposed to br Kate Bush? She is not a MPG

 

Gwen Nelly and Fergie are not MPGs

 

J.Lo, Avril, Kelly, Miley, Selena, Demi, Halsey, Camila, Dua, Charli, Gracie, Chappell….all sneaks 

Edited Saturday at 05:43 PM by Loca

[Johnny Jacobs]

So... You put Gracie but not

 

Leona Lewis 

Cardi B

Megan 

Meghan 

 

[Johnny Jacobs]

2 minutes ago, Loca said:

You are missing Dianna Ross

 

Is that Kate supposed to br Kate Bush? She is not a MPG

 

Gwen Nelly and Fergie are not MPGs

 

J.Lo, Avril, Kelly, Miley, Selena, Demi, Halsey, Camila, Dua, Charli, Gracie, Chappell….all sneaks 

I don't think he meant current. Past MPGs as well. 

[HarajukuPrincess]

Add Donna, Diana and Barbara for 70s

 

And Ayumi and Hikaru for 00s

Edited Saturday at 05:48 PM by HarajukuPrincess

[MattieB]

22 minutes ago, goverm3nth0ker said:

im doing a research for my journalism project on how female singers have evolved by era and how one benefits from the other like, they pave the way and the legacy they leave behind. being a woman in the music world and how different styles, topics and the way they inspire art could be, and i need atrl help if i miss anyone

 

before 70s i dont have idea s

 70s: Tina, Cher, Aretha, Olivia

80s: Janet, Whitney, Celine, Kate, Madonna ofc

90s: Mariah, Christina, Britney, Kylie

00s: Nelly, Rihanna, Beyonce, Fergie, Gwen, Shakira, JLo, Avril, Kelly, P!nk, Katy, Gaga, Nicki, Adele, Miley, Taylor, Selena, Demi

10s: Ariana, Lana, Halsey, Camila, Dua, Billie.

20s: Doja, Olivia, Charli, Gracie, Sabrina, Chappell, SZA

 

can you add another?

 

[$ebert]

Not including Kesha in the list when she influenced many artists 

 

She's definitely missing in there.

[MattieB]

15 minutes ago, Loca said:

You are missing Diana Ross and Donna Summer. Barbra Streisand too

 

Is that Kate supposed to br Kate Bush? She is not a MPG

 

Gwen Nelly and Fergie are not MPGs

 

J.Lo, Avril, Kelly, Miley, Selena, Demi, Halsey, Camila, Dua, Charli, Gracie, Chappell….all sneaks 

Hows avril a sneak? 

[fa77ot]

43 minutes ago, goverm3nth0ker said:

10s: Ariana, Lana, Halsey, Camila, Dua, Billie.

no fads allowed

[BlahBlahBlah]

Paula should be added to the 80s imo

 

Contrary to what others are saying here I actually agree with your 10s and 20s list, monoculture is dead so MPGs have a significantly shorter shelf life, and the 10s girls listed all had at least 2 successful eras. 

Edited Saturday at 06:12 PM by BlahBlahBlah

[MidnightsAtPeace]

I don't think we should be organizing MPGs in terms of the decade they debut or rose to fame. A generational approach seems more fitting and rational. (for example Britney and Christina were barely active in the 90s considering they debuted in 1999/1998)

 

With that being said, this is how I personally would organize/categorize them (each generation will only consist of five artists that I think were the zeitgeist of their own generation the most)

 

First generation (obv my knowledge on older divas is very slim so I won't be categegorizing them):

• Tina Turner

• Cher

• Aretha Franklin

• Diana Ross

• Joni Mitchell (only by my standards)

 

Second generation:

• Madonna

• Celine Dion

• Janet Jackson

• Whitney Houston 

• Cyndi Lauper 

 

Third generation:

• Britney Spears

• Christina Aguilera 

• Beyoncé

• P!nk

• Mariah Carey

 

Fouth generation:

• Taylor Swift 

• Lady Gaga

• Katy Perry

• Rihanna

• Adele

 

Fifth and the newest generation:

• Olivia Rodrigo 

• Billie Eilish 

• Dua Lipa

• Chappell Roan 

• Doja Cat

 

Artists like Ariana, Lana, and Nicki do not belong to any of the generations because they debut or rose to fame between two different generations, or at least that's how I look at it.

Edited Saturday at 07:05 PM by MidnightsAtPeace

[like2throw]

You need to add Cyndi Lauper for the 80s grouping, that's a pretty glaring omission. 

[sugarysunflower]

40s: Ella Fitzgerald, Peggy Lee, Lena Horne

 

50s: Peggy Lee, Patti Page 
 

60s: Nancy Sinatra, Dionne Warwick, The Supremes, Ronnie Spector, Lulu, Cher, Nina Simone, Aretha, Barbara Streisand, Dusty Springfield, 

 

70s: Janis Joplin, Carole King, Donna Summer, Barbara Streisand, Karen Carpenter, Stevie Nicks, Carly Simon, Diana Ross, Roberta Flack, Gladys Knight, Patti Labelle, Etta James, Dolly Parton, Joni Mitchell, Bette Midler

 

80s: Diana Ross, Cyndi Lauper, Gloria Estefan, Tina, Bananarama, Chaka Khan, Donna Summer 

 

90s: Alanis Morisette, Lauryn Hill (solo + Fugees), TLC, Destiny's Child, Bjork, Toni Braxton, Shania Twain, Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah, Missy Elliot, Sheryl Crow, Erykah Badu 

[Comedor]

Beyonce is from the 90s. 

[tjspy]

2 hours ago, goverm3nth0ker said:

Gracie

Its giving Tate McRae

[ericcartman]

Diana Ross was probably the first MPG by definition 

 

If you're including girls like Avril Lavigne, Gwen Stefani, Katie Perry etc then you have to include Paula Abdul, Cyndi Lauper, etc 

[modeblock]

Being an MPG is not just about hits, it needs to be 360 degrees of slayage: you need EVERYTHING!!

 

cultural relevance (impact)

chart success (MULTIPLE #1s singles and albums)

touring success (demand to tour the globe)

established stanbase 

household name (cross-generational awareness)

longevity (at least 4 successful eras)

 

 

[ericcartman]

Honestly just keep it simple and concise 

 

Trailblazers: Diana Ross, Cher, Donna Summer, Aretha Franklin , Dionne Warwick 

 

The OGs: Madonna, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey

 

The Golden age: Beyonce, Britney Spears, Taylor Swift, Rihanna, Lady Gaga

 

The new age: Ariana Grande, Billie Eillish, the rest remain to be seen

[Arrows]

Current: Beyoncé, Taylor, Ariana, Billie, Olivia, Sabrina, Gaga, SZA, Rihanna, Adele

 

More than at any other point in the past 10 years, actually

[NoOneDiesFromLove]

You missed Gayle (abcdefu) 

[Tylerbv]

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