base talk Do you believe all the vocals on musical films like Wicked & ASIB are indeed live?

[IBeMe]

In a lot of these musical films they say the vocals were captured live in that actual scene but the vocals dont even match the lip movements 90% of the time. This isnt a critic of Wicked or ASIB specifically. I feel like this happens with literally like almost all music based movies...they say it for marketing reasons but sometimes u can literally hear the pitch correction or tuning programs in the vocal and often they dont even perfectly align with the mouth movement. Could this be a post production issue of capturing live vocals and sounds at the same time as the visual component or is it just a straight up lie and marketing fabrication? 

Edited Friday at 01:31 AM by IBeMe

[PrettyHurts]

I believe they sung live on set however there is obviously post production and they probably don't end up using much of the live vocals, especially if there is music involved

[Stuart]

I don't know about ASIB as I never watched it but for Wicked, both Cynthia and Ariana sang live for every scene they did. But for the movie though, they used the recorded vocals you can hear on the soundtrack except for a few lyrics here and there. In Defying Gravity for instance, when Glinda sings "you can have all you've ever wanted", they kept the singing from the actual scene as she sounded more emotional than in the recorded version.

[Cheers]

20 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

I believe they sung live on set however there is obviously post production and they probably don't end up using much of the live vocals, especially if there is music involved

Exactly. Like only delusional stans think what we're hearing is 100% live in a movie.

[yonsé]

capturing audio live on set is not just setting up a boom mic and having them sing in the take. there are obviously studio mics recording various takes and editors take the best of the musical and visual take to give you what you see in the film. but if audio take 1 was better than visual take 1 and they want to use audio take 1 and visual take 3, then thats why the mouth movements might not align perfectly. doesn't make the singing not live.

 

of course it's edited, no one said its a 100% raw vocal.

 

the audio people on A Star is Born did several interviews about the process of recording live. i recommend reading them for more info.

Edited Friday at 02:20 AM by yonsé

[Pop Art]

The released version of Shallow is definitely more "raw"/"live" than the studio version used in the trailer, so I definitely believe the "live" songs from that movie were in fact recorded live. Compare the chorus vocals of each version, they're distinctly different:

 

 

 

[Yes, AND]

Definitely not live lol. Anyone believing this are delusional beyond help. 

[BlossomSoul]

Not a chance. It'd be hard to get the quality we hear in the movies without a studio setup and anything live is heavily edited 

[nadiamendell]

They may perform them live on set but those are not the vocals we are hearing. Studio vocals are 100% always dubbed over.

Edited Friday at 03:09 AM by nadiamendell

[Harrier]

For Wicked, they definitely did use some live vocals in the final version, but it's heavy produced and edited. Many songs had no live vocals like Defying Gravity or No One Mourns the Wicked but then there are other especially smaller moments in the film that are definitely live vocals. I watched very carefully for it on my second viewing lol

[bliaz]

Always Remember Us This Way sounds live in the film. In the studio version it sounds more polished

 

[Rep2000]

Recording live vocal is such a nightmare in production and actively hurting the actors' vocals. Also, it would actually sound horrible no matter how good the actors are (case in point: Les Mis) without any editting.

 

Edited Friday at 06:09 AM by Rep2000

[BornUnbroken]

I wanna flex and say that as someone who was in the audience when they shot "Shallow" and "I'll Never Love Again", they definitely recorded all vocals live take after take. "Heal Me" was different, when Gaga came out she jokingly apologized to the audience about having to lipsync along to the recorded track. They might clean things up post-production, but most of what we heard was 100% live.

 

This goes the same for professional live concert recordings. Many artists will go back in the studio to rerecord some things and just match their vocals to their mouth on the video recording to get it as accurately as possible.

[longjohn9898]

48 minutes ago, BornUnbroken said:

I wanna flex and say that as someone who was in the audience when they shot "Shallow" and "I'll Never Love Again", they definitely recorded all vocals live take after take. "Heal Me" was different, when Gaga came out she jokingly apologized to the audience about having to lipsync along to the recorded track. They might clean things up post-production, but most of what we heard was 100% live.

 

This goes the same for professional live concert recordings. Many artists will go back in the studio to rerecord some things and just match their vocals to their mouth on the video recording to get it as accurately as possible.

I am beyond jealous you were there for Shallow and I'll Never Love Again takes. What an incredible experience that must've been! 

 

I agree most of the vocals in A Star Is Born sound truly live aside from minor touches post-production. An amazing body of work!

[Princess Aurora]

I think it's mixed tbh

[Dante Silva]

No. It's all post production overdubs and studio smoke & mirrors.  You are also hearing triple stacked vocals (at least three vocal takes - as if they are one lone vocal).

[Digitalism]

They sing live but then it is edited and it is a mixed version with the best of each version

[DoctorIce]

Just because the vocals are recorded on set, it doesn't mean the shot used in the film is from the same vocal take. It's just editing.