news NOLA ISIS NYE Attack: 15 dead, 30+ injured: FBI confirms no more suspects

[Vermillion]

[Vermillion]

Of the dozens of mass casualty press conferences I've seen in my life, this was by far the most disjointed and disorganized.

 

Maybe the imperative was to calm the public but all the contradictions and little to no answers on crucial points felt like it made things worse.

 

You clarify whether this was a terrorist incident as a group before coming to the ****ing podium, not directly contradict each other within minutes, for starters.

 

People losing faith in all our institutions and wonder why.

[sugarysunflower]

Guns …….. 

 

America ………. 
 

Again ……… 

 

and ….

 

Again ………. 

[Blade Runner]

Third world country.

[Hephaestus]

Not that it'd solve the issue entirely in this specific instance, but at this point I wonder what (if anything at all) will make the US finally change its stance on fire weapons, especially automatic and semi-automatic ones.

 

RIP to the victims 

[Rv1709]

How's this such a common occurrence in the states with essentially nothing being done to fix it? 

[Breathe On Moi]

May they rest in peace, absolutely terrifying.

 

this is why I don't go to massive crowd things for such holidays unfortunately.

[Vermillion]

10 minutes ago, Rv1709 said:

How's this such a common occurrence in the states with essentially nothing being done to fix it? 

Because most attempted national reforms will be struck down by the currently composed SCOTUS so everyone's given up, including on, most recently, bump stocks.

 

There's been minimal traction on red flag laws in some states but that's about it.

[Bears01]

21 minutes ago, Hephaestus said:

Not that it'd solve the issue entirely in this specific instance, but at this point I wonder what (if anything at all) will make the US finally change its stance on fire weapons, especially automatic and semi-automatic ones.

 

RIP to the victims 

Nothing. 
 

R.I.P. to the victims 

[Hexchromatica]

3 minutes ago, Rv1709 said:

How's this such a common occurrence in the states with essentially nothing being done to fix it? 

banning them would mean less money in old men's pockets 

[Vermillion]

22 minutes ago, Hephaestus said:

Not that it'd solve the issue entirely in this specific instance, but at this point I wonder what (if anything at all) will make the US finally change its stance on fire weapons, especially automatic and semi-automatic ones.

 

RIP to the victims 

Mexico's sued U.S. arms manufacturers recently for contributing to the drug war which is expected to fail at SCOTUS, Uvalde's suit against gun marketers I believe failed as did the Sandy Hook parents even though the latter was successful against Alex Jones for entirely different reasons.

 

So no, I don't expect anything to change.

[CozySkin]

Happy new year 

[wastedpotential]

I'm not sure why the comments are treating this like just another shooting when seemingly all of the casualties came from the truck driving through the crowd, and the shootout with the police was very brief and came after? This was a tragic event and I firmly support drastic gun policy reform, but that wouldn't have saved many (any?) lives last night? This was a pedestrian safety failure, if anything. 
 

Given that it happened so late in the night (past 3:30am), I've seen some speculation that the police had begun to clean up and remove the temporary bollards and other safety devices, and that was how the driver was able to get onto the street, but that's speculative. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:13 PM by wastedpotential

[sugarysunflower]

19 minutes ago, Rv1709 said:

How's this such a common occurrence in the states with essentially nothing being done to fix it? 

I've seen figures that the guns and ammunitions industry in America alone can be between $30 - 90 billion, alone. 
 

Never mind the supply chain, parts, training camps etc. on top. 

 

They just claim the outdated second ammendment to claim it's of personal interest, not economic interest. 

[Darkgalord]

Horrifying 

[Johnny Jacobs]

the numbers of these attacks just grow each year.

 

rip to the victims. they were celebrating a new year, probably some planned their resolutions  just as it happened. heartbreaking

[ttsmu]

This is heartbreaking.

 

The USA needs to stop talking about how "unsafe" other countries are when they live in one of the scariest places on earth.

[Almodusa]

Poor families, having to start off the year like this. Glad the guy is dead but wish he lived to be tortured (by inmates or sumn)

[nadiamendell]

2 hours ago, Rv1709 said:

How's this such a common occurrence in the states with essentially nothing being done to fix it? 

Oh, plenty could be done, but the shootings aren't affecting people with money/power enough for them to care. In the rare occasion where someone from the oligarch class IS affected, they react swiftly (see the United CEO situation).

Edited Wednesday at 04:28 PM by nadiamendell

[Vermillion]

 

[genio]

Very tragic news. RIP to all the victims. 

 

5 hours ago, wastedpotential said:

I'm not sure why the comments are treating this like just another shooting when seemingly all of the casualties came from the truck driving through the crowd, and the shootout with the police was very brief and came after? This was a tragic event and I firmly support drastic gun policy reform, but that wouldn't have saved many (any?) lives last night? This was a pedestrian safety failure, if anything. 
 

Given that it happened so late in the night (past 3:30am), I've seen some speculation that the police had begun to clean up and remove the temporary bollards and other safety devices, and that was how the driver was able to get onto the street, but that's speculative. 

True, this was a pedestrian safety failure like the one in the German Christmas market a week ago. Banning guns wouldn't have changed anything in this situation (however, of course I still support banning guns). 

 

[Vermillion]

 

[nadiamendell]

 

 

[Relampago.]

6 hours ago, Hephaestus said:

Not that it'd solve the issue entirely in this specific instance, but at this point I wonder what (if anything at all) will make the US finally change its stance on fire weapons, especially automatic and semi-automatic ones.

 

RIP to the victims 

Killing high profile politicians, billionaires and other powerful entities and their families is the only thing that'll ever create change. Otherwise, they'll let us die forever.

 

For any FBI agent watching, I'm not saying we need to mass murder these people, but it's the only way that I ever see change happening because there's nothing else left for us to murder atp.

[umich]

1 hour ago, Vermillion said:

 

Update: it's officially postponed until tomorrow.