fan base K-Pop: New Year, New Us

[Zack]

2 hours ago, Odette Violet said:

IVE and NJ falling off quickly and I swore this base were saying they are untouchable 

I mean NJ just had misfortunes, they are caught up in company battles, so I don't think it counts as "falling off"

 

However, IVE...so far they are trending downward...their latest title is a serious fall in success compared to the past, it's struggling to reach top 10. Maybe they can pull it back with their 2nd title. But Rebel Heart is boring and so far it's failing to capture attention.

 

[starstruckaj]

This gen is definitely different; glad to see a lot of mid tier groups that would be on the verge of disbanding in the 3rd gen still thriving off of touring. 
 

meanwhile most the top/high tier groups (aside from aespa ) have been inconsistent over the last 2 years so I imagine this year will be crucial for many

 

and February already looks packed (IVE, Jisoo, Tots2Teens, Lisa, Rescene, StayC, Madein) but we need Jennie to drop the next single and album date asap since YG desperately needs all the pinks back after Coachella 

[Odette Violet]

5 minutes ago, Zack said:

I mean NJ just had misfortunes, they are caught up in company battles, so I don't think it counts as "falling off"

 

However, IVE...so far they are trending downward...their latest title is a serious fall in success compared to the past, it's struggling to reach top 10. Maybe they can pull it back with their 2nd title. But Rebel Heart is boring and so far it's failing to capture attention.

 

They certainly did, even if we remove all this company drama. 

 

Supernatural / How Sweet are underperformance base on their standards

 

 

This is not a shade to them but to their fans screaming how they are the Korean beatles so when the payola runs out / music is not giving they are just like any other regular Kpop group  

Edited Saturday at 12:33 PM by Odette Violet

[Gorjesspazze9]

2 hours ago, Odette Violet said:

IVE and NJ falling off quickly and I swore this base were saying they are untouchable 

Not everyone can make it on the Mount Rushmore of Kpop. 

 

[rapperjennie]

This is so impressive   the most successful members of Twice actually

 

 

 

[Odette Violet]

Kpop fans are notoriously success stans maybe except the sheeps so like the next non SM kpop group hit  it big we'll going to see the same people swarming up  

Edited Saturday at 12:53 PM by Odette Violet

[Zack]

32 minutes ago, starstruckaj said:

we need Jennie to drop the next single and album date asap since YG desperately needs all the pinks back after Coachella 

Speaking of Jennie...has she revealed any more info about her project? It feels like she wowed everyone with Mantra but then just disappeared again. Lisa and Rosé dropped multiple singles and I'm surprised Jennie didn't do the same

 

Also, the others already have released (or confirmed date to release) their projects, but I'm not seeing many updates about Jennie's album. It seems like YG has them on a strict schedule for BP to comeback and tour by summer, so is she waiting until all the other members have released or something? 

 

Edited Saturday at 01:05 PM by Zack

[hallucinate]

the song is simply not great and the concept is terrible

can't really blame korea for not stanning

[Dialamba]

Either way, off the record and baddie debuted all out of the top 10  Baddie managed to have a PAK, heya despite peaking at #2 was according to Gallup, one of the most loved songs in Korea  Rebel heart is rising, and the title will push it to the top 5 like baddie did with either way.  
 

And NJ didn't fall off at least in Korea/Japan 

[Dialamba]

and the sheep told us BB wasn't the biggest 2nd gen group because they did not sell albums 

[hallucinate]

the sad part is the hook is SO catchy

can't believe they wasted it like this

[MonsterNavy]

4 hours ago, Dialamba said:

Blackpink debuted with a PAK and they had minimal promo for years. YG thought BM would get the same success now they're getting out charted by KIOF so they have no choice to promote them to the death. 
and ironically a Thai idol is more relevant in Korea than Jennie 2.0

 

 

Payback 

 

 

natty is a superstar and kiof's discography is so good

 

I dont like illit cause they're nj copycats but their music is fresh and listenable

 

meovv is serving avant guard, beauty and they have teddy. I actually think they're blackpink's daughters 

 

 

babymonster just be doing 500 different concepts and nothing is sticking. the music is either the same dated yg mess or a basic ass song there's really nothing in between. I wish nothing YG but the absolute worst in this world

 

Edited Saturday at 02:00 PM by MonsterNavy

[MAKSIM]

The new Ive title track will sample Tom's Diner, so don't hold your breath for a good track. 

[Rid Of Me]

1 hour ago, Zack said:

Speaking of Jennie...has she revealed any more info about her project? It feels like she wowed everyone with Mantra but then just disappeared again. Lisa and Rosé dropped multiple singles and I'm surprised Jennie didn't do the same

 

Also, the others already have released (or confirmed date to release) their projects, but I'm not seeing many updates about Jennie's album. It seems like YG has them on a strict schedule for BP to comeback and tour by summer, so is she waiting until all the other members have released or something? 

 

It was hinted that her album will release in March before her Coachella performance

New information about her new single & album is coming soon

 

 

 

 

 

[illia]

6 hours ago, Lazuli said:

Was there already a 2024 kpop rate...? 

No and it won't be happening I guess

[Pluto6]

1 hour ago, Dialamba said:

and the sheep told us BB wasn't the biggest 2nd gen group because they did not sell albums 

G-DRAGON making his return to music and T.O.P being on Squid Games has definitely helped giving BIGBANG a resurgence, which can be seen by their numbers increasing everywhere right now.

BIGBANG is probably the only 2nd gen group that could've still been successful in the streaming era, if they didn't disband. They are pulling the same amount of streams as TXT right now for example

 

 

Edited Saturday at 02:42 PM by Pluto6

[Gorjesspazze9]

My faves Legacy is cemented. Few groups will ever have a Song as big as Gee. Or a group that is a cornerstone of Hallyu itself. What's a Billion streams to the building GG funded for an entire 2 generations of SM sheep? 

 

[Eternium]

2 hours ago, Odette Violet said:

They certainly did, even if we remove all this company drama. 

 

Supernatural / How Sweet are underperformance base on their standards

 

 

This is not a shade to them but to their fans screaming how they are the Korean beatles so when the payola runs out / music is not giving they are just like any other regular Kpop group  

2024 Circle Year End:

#9. How Sweet - 455M

#33. Bubble Gum - 320M

#41. Supernatural - 279M

#200. Right Now - 83M

 

Every song they released last year made the YE charts. They saw a huge decrease in global streaming success, but that has more to do with their label not pushing them - Spotify is a mostly fraudulent platform where you either need a huge fanbase using Stationhead or a label that invests in you a lot.

2 hours ago, Zack said:

I mean NJ just had misfortunes, they are caught up in company battles, so I don't think it counts as "falling off"

 

However, IVE...so far they are trending downward...their latest title is a serious fall in success compared to the past, it's struggling to reach top 10. Maybe they can pull it back with their 2nd title. But Rebel Heart is boring and so far it's failing to capture attention.

 

It's only natural to have some hits and misses. But "I AM" just became their third 1B point song and "HEYA" is about to surpass 400M digital points in March. Even Accendio, with its bombing, did 128M digital points last year and it's still charting. 

4 hours ago, Odette Violet said:

IVE and NJ falling off quickly and I swore this base were saying they are untouchable 

NJ were the #1 digital act of 2024 and they were #1 for album sales for female acts. IVE were the #5 digital act of 2024 (with one comeback) and #5 for album sales for females.

 

[MonsterNavy]

1 hour ago, Zack said:

Speaking of Jennie...has she revealed any more info about her project? It feels like she wowed everyone with Mantra but then just disappeared again. Lisa and Rosé dropped multiple singles and I'm surprised Jennie didn't do the same

 

Also, the others already have released (or confirmed date to release) their projects, but I'm not seeing many updates about Jennie's album. It seems like YG has them on a strict schedule for BP to comeback and tour by summer, so is she waiting until all the other members have released or something? 

 

its really weird that jisoo already has an album release date (feb 14) and jennie still hasnt announced hers yet

 

idk whats happening but she just posted on insta the other day with lots of studio photos and posted this on weverse today "Get ready to receive the gifts that will pour out from me. Hehe." so the album might be ready to go and the announcement was just postponed because of the LA fires

 

 

[newaespa]

idk why LOS SER's fans have the nerve to show off LOS SER's Spotify streams

Hugely playlisted, HYBE's payola, inorganic, autoplay  

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

 

I just know his rack is Choi Minho level

[OrgVisual]

31 minutes ago, Eternium said:

2024 Circle Year End:

#9. How Sweet - 455M

#33. Bubble Gum - 320M

#41. Supernatural - 279M

#200. Right Now - 83M

 

Every song they released last year made the YE charts. They saw a huge decrease in global streaming success, but that has more to do with their label not pushing them - Spotify is a mostly fraudulent platform where you either need a huge fanbase using Stationhead or a label that invests in you a lot.

It's only natural to have some hits and misses. But "I AM" just became their third 1B point song and "HEYA" is about to surpass 400M digital points in March. Even Accendio, with its bombing, did 128M digital points last year and it's still charting. 

NJ were the #1 digital act of 2024 and they were #1 for album sales for female acts. IVE were the #5 digital act of 2024 (with one comeback) and #5 for album sales for females.

 

But Tokkies said Hybe has never done anything for NJs and it was all on MHJ so what is the truth? 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Ive might not be the flop some make them out to be but that doesn't mean the new music ain't garbaj 

 

[Eternium]

1 minute ago, OrgVisual said:

But Tokkies said Hybe has never done anything for NJs and it was all on MHJ so what is the truth? 

HYBE never did anything creatively nor supported the girls in their personal development. The label paid for playlisting and gave them access to certain manufacturing, but they also took a significant portion of their revenue to pay for it so it's not like HYBE did it because they wanted to support the artists.
 

What makes HYBE even shittier is that they were still taking that some cut of the revenue in 2024 from NJ to fund struggling groups like LSF and ILLIT, yet they stopped pushing NJ on Spotify and cut a significant portion of their promotional and advertising materials in hopes they could transfer that success to groups they had more control over.

[Eternium]

1 minute ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

Ive might not be the flop some make them out to be but that doesn't mean the new music ain't garbaj 

 

"I Am" was their last monster smash hit, so clearly there's a market for garbaj music.