celeb news Muni Long refuses to write soulful songs for non melanated artists

[MariahC]

36 minutes ago, terrorblade said:

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The one who wrote, co-wrote most of the mega hits you know today. From Mariah to Rihanna and Ariana Grande...just to na name a few. 

[MariahC]

36 minutes ago, terrorblade said:

who

The one who wrote, co-wrote most of the mega hits you know today. From Mariah to Rihanna and Ariana Grande...just to na name a few. 

[MariahC]

36 minutes ago, terrorblade said:

who

The one who wrote, co-wrote most of the mega hits you know today. From Mariah to Rihanna and Ariana Grande...just to na name a few. 

[allforyou]

As an artist she has the right to choose who she writes for however I can't help but wonder if the reaction would be the same if a white country songwriter said this towards a black artist?

 

I understand her point of view considering that so many black artists were pushed behind the scenes while white artists shined with the material they created, however I don't think this idea of "payback" helps anyone in the end and instead the industry should work towards equality.

 

[Namie-Knowles]

Did y'all really log into your own dupe to upvote yourself and downvote everyone fighting against racism. Y'all hoes nasty and lame as ****.

[Onyxmage]

Ariana is safe.

[Wicked]

1 hour ago, allforyou said:

As an artist she has the right to choose who she writes for however I can't help but wonder if the reaction would be the same if a white country songwriter said this towards a black artist?

 

I understand her point of view considering that so many black artists were pushed behind the scenes while white artists shined with the material they created, however I don't think this idea of "payback" helps anyone in the end and instead the industry should work towards equality.

 

I'm sorry but Black artists get put through the ringer in the country industry already and nothing has changed.

 

How is this 'payback' refusing to do labor lol? These white artists can't write songs themselves? Are white musicians not talented or something...? Nobody is stopping them from making R&B music, people love Teena Marie, Robin Thicke, Ariana Grande's more R&B material, George Michael, Bobby Caldwell, Hall & Oates etc,.  Muni has been very transparent about how this industry has treated her as an aspiring artist, and there's many like her that aren't in positions to speak up and say no. D'Angelo (a R&B veteran) just said recently Black artists are being straight up blocked from the industry since private equity has been taking over majors...

 

The worst thing that happens from her saying no to writing a damn song is they have to ask someone else or give it up. What is your idea of it working towards equality that doesn't involve Black artists refusal to fall into that role again? They should twiddle their thumbs and do as they are told until... what happens? Listeners aren't going to do **** except what they've done in this thread which is deny any wrongdoing and say they're being "reverse racists". It's up to them to move, and if this is how they're doing it why do you have a problem with it? 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Wicked

[allforyou]

29 minutes ago, Wicked said:

I'm sorry but Black artists get put through the ringer in the country industry already and nothing has changed.

 

How is this 'payback' refusing to do labor lol? These white artists can't write songs themselves? Are white musicians not talented or something...? Nobody is stopping them from making R&B music, people love Teena Marie, Robin Thicke, Ariana Grande's more R&B material, George Michael, Bobby Caldwell, Hall & Oates etc,.  Muni has been very transparent about how this industry has treated her as an aspiring artist, and there's many like her that aren't in positions to speak up and say no. D'Angelo (a R&B veteran) just said recently Black artists are being straight up blocked from the industry since private equity has been taking over majors...

 

The worst thing that happens from her saying no to writing a damn song is they have to ask someone else or give it up. What is your idea of it working towards equality that doesn't involve Black artists refusal to fall into that role again? They should twiddle their thumbs and do as they are told until... what happens? Listeners aren't going to do **** except what they've done in this thread which is deny any wrongdoing and say they're being "reverse racists". It's up to them to move, and if this is how they're doing it why do you have a problem with it? 

 

I agree that the country music scene still has a long way to go towards black artists, women, etc.

 

As I said previously she has the right to write for whoever she wants.

 

I wasn't aware of the situation of black artists being blocked from the industry in recent times or just being denied a recording contract.

Perhaps I'm having more of an utopian view where everyone had the same rights and opportunities, as you have described unfortunately that's not the way the music industry is.

 

With all of this, I wish that the highers up of the big majors could solve these issues instead of artists having to have these policies.

[Bumba]

15 hours ago, Sabandija said:

 

You can disagree with her decision but this is in no way racism. A discriminated group can't opress the privileged.

Racism doesn't have to have a power inequality. It's mainly discriminating about someone's ethnicity/characteristics. Everyone can be racist, but racism against certain ethnicities won't have the same impact as others. Ultimately, it's all rooted in hatred. 

[OnlyRealMusic.]

3 hours ago, allforyou said:

As an artist she has the right to choose who she writes for however I can't help but wonder if the reaction would be the same if a white country songwriter said this towards a black artist?

 

I understand her point of view considering that so many black artists were pushed behind the scenes while white artists shined with the material they created, however I don't think this idea of "payback" helps anyone in the end and instead the industry should work towards equality.

 

You probably don't know this, but she actually tried to get into the country industry & has a full country album (Coloured by Priscilla Renea) and she spoke of how heavily gatekeeped that industry is & how badly they treated her.

[campelo]

Go off queen make no money 

[IsidoraMarí]

It's not that she doesn't write for non melinated artist it's that she specifically refuses to make Soulful songs for non melinated artists.

[TiaTamera]

In world where Elvis is seen as the "King of Rock" while taking Black songs and rock and roll being started by Black people, this makes perfect sense. Too many people want the rhythm and not the blues.

 

22 hours ago, PartyFavor said:

That makes sense but if she doesn't many others will so in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't change much.

and this is the problem. People's integrity gets bought out. People don't know the power on standing on business as collective.

 

22 hours ago, Mornings said:

Good! Just listen to the terrible Justin Timberlake gospel records on his last album if you need any kind of reassurance there is nothing any white person can add to a soulful song written from a black American perspective. They can write their own inspired tracks themselves

And how do you guys not know Muni Long? 

 

Because members of ATRL prides themselves on only liking/listening to consistently top 10 artists. They need the charts and the numbers (and Billboard) to tell them who to like, who to stan for, who to support, who to listen to. They think it's beneath them to like an artists whose songs don't always go number 1.

[Headlock]

@HoldTheBoy an account with 0 posts upvoting every racist post in here and downvoting every post calling out anti-Black racism. A coward and a racist, pick a struggle.

[TiaTamera]

6 hours ago, allforyou said:

I agree that the country music scene still has a long way to go towards black artists, women, etc.

 

As I said previously she has the right to write for whoever she wants.

 

I wasn't aware of the situation of black artists being blocked from the industry in recent times or just being denied a recording contract.

Perhaps I'm having more of an utopian view where everyone had the same rights and opportunities, as you have described unfortunately that's not the way the music industry is.

 

With all of this, I wish that the highers up of the big majors could solve these issues instead of artists having to have these policies.

Are you living under a rock?  Was Beyoncé not shut out of the country world? Nominated for ZERO CMA, told that she needs to know her place cause she's not country enough? A genre that yet again was created by Black people and stolen by whites? Did you not see the uproar when Beyoncé performed at the CMA with the Dixie Chix? Why are people so oblivious 

[gettsleazy]

On 12/26/2024 at 1:21 PM, Mornings said:

And how do you guys not know Muni Long? 

We're not the only ones, it seems...

 

[gettsleazy]

11 hours ago, allforyou said:

As an artist she has the right to choose who she writes for however I can't help but wonder if the reaction would be the same if a white country songwriter said this towards a black artist?

 

This is suuuuuuuch a strawman because it completely ignores the power imbalance created in the music industry because of racism.

 

Sure, you could argue that Muni is being prejudicial with this statement (which would be a silly hill to die on given the context) but her not wanting to fork over something very specific to her culture and racial identity is in no way comparable to a white artist refusing to work with a black artist on the grounds of racism. 

Edited 5 hours ago by gettsleazy

[VerdantHue]

14 hours ago, Namie-Knowles said:

Did y'all really log into your own dupe to upvote yourself and downvote everyone fighting against racism. Y'all hoes nasty and lame as ****.

People do that here? How sad. For some of these bozos to not know what is and isn't racist... No one of is obligated to enlighten them but I will laugh at stupid when it's blatant.

Edited 2 hours ago by VerdantHue

[Namie-Knowles]

6 minutes ago, VerdantHue said:

People do that here? How sad. For some of these bozos to not know what is and isn't racist... No one of is obligated to enlighten them but I will laugh at stupid when it's blatant.

Yeah girl. This forum on its older versions was wild. Had Klan members saying all types of **** without punishment. Calling every Black celebrity monkeys and stuff back in the day lmao. These people still hang around 

[John Slayne]

but she wrote Love Spent for MDNA 

[l3disko]

16 hours ago, MariahC said:

The one who wrote, co-wrote most of the mega hits you know today. From Mariah to Rihanna and Ariana Grande...just to na name a few. 

 

 

lmao stop.

 

Are YOU Muni Long? Because that sounds like something a deluded song-writer would say.

 

 

the most famous song she wrote is prob 5th Harmony's "Worth It".

 

I recognize 2-3 more songs and that's it.

 

 

Edited 59 minutes ago by l3disko