base talk TTPD & all of its 30+ songs flopped on year end lists. Why?

[on the line]

44 minutes ago, SlimyGhoul said:

i think Taylor has made some AMAZING pop songs but nothing on TTPD stood out to me as like a really good pop song. It was a bit phoned in.

Lol, but it's not a pop album? Weird take.

[Kimbra]

Midnights = Views

 

TTPD = Scorpion 

[Dante Silva]

I think if people are honest, they will admit when they first heard TTPD - they got the vibe it is comprised of archive material they mostly already had, that never made the cut of some of her previous republic era records.

[Mariano]

17 hours ago, NEX said:

Critics list will forever remain the prestigious barometers of quality unlike peer/fan voted awards like the Grammys or Nickelodeon. Taylor released a good 100+ songs (if we count all the many versions that are available) this year and had the biggest album of the year (by the numbers), but neither the album nor any of its songs managed to make it into the Album of The Year aggregate Top 50 albums or Top 50 songs of the year. What happened? 

 

https://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/summary/2024/

https://www.albumoftheyear.org/songs/best/2024/

 

Edited Thursday at 03:38 PM by Mariano

[JoeAg]

oh sorry @mael! didn't mean to strike a nerve  just giving what's called an opinion. not disrespecting Taylor for her mid project, just giving my opinion on the project itself lol

[PopFan]

The Albatross kinda deserve Disease's success.

[SpaceOddity]

Apart from the fact it's simply too long, there's mere fact that there's nothing for the casual fan to grab onto: It's not catchy, there's this overly self indulgent atmosphere with references and lore that interest only hardcore Swifties, every song is an uninspired and derivative version of a much better song she's done in the past, there's zero variation sonically and the production is beige and dull as ****. Coming from someone who genuinely loved Folklore/Evermore/Midnights, that was a **** album. 

[SlimyGhoul]

3 hours ago, on the line said:

Lol, but it's not a pop album? Weird take.

what would you consider it 

[Joaco95]

20 hours ago, Saintlor said:

Critics aren't credible if Brat is the #1 acclaimed album of the year

this but they are right about ttpd tho

[Maneater]

How will she ever recover from this 

[gustavothehuman]

Not people in the first page saying that charting high on year-end lists is better than a Grammy... The Recording Academy made some questionable decisions over the years, sure, but just ask any musician! Respect from your brothers and sisters in the craft is much more important than Twitter vibes journalists.

 

Edited Thursday at 07:23 PM by gustavothehuman

[NEX]

3 hours ago, Dante Silva said:

I think if people are honest, they will admit when they first heard TTPD - they got the vibe it is comprised of archive material they mostly already had, that never made the cut of some of her previous republic era records.

I've been thinking about this as well. A lot of the songs on this album are seemingly leftovers from previous eras that didn't make the cut, which she then readjusted to the album's sound. The most obvious one is Thank You Aimee. It was clearly written in Reputation era, probably to some synth beat. But then she decided to put it on the Anthology, and make it into an acoustic song, which doesn't work at all with those lyrics. I've said this many times, but the main goal of this album was to have a lot of tracks: she wanted a Morgan Wallen moment with an album that wouldn't leave the top 5 for years (that failed). And she also wanted to have 31 tracks exactly, because 31 is 13 backwards: that's the kind of stuff Swifties really love their favourite artist to creatively focus on. So she keeps focusing on numerology and charts and keeps releasing bloated albums like this and her fanbase just eats it up without any critical thoughts and finds excuses to blame why no one outside the core base likes it. 

 

P.S. There are a lot of great songs on that album, some are even outstanding. She still has her writing skills, but she keeps focusing on wrong stuff (like numerology, charts, money). That's my main problem with her at the moment. This would have been an excellent 10-13 track album if she was a genuine artist, not a chartist. 

[Truth Teller]

4 hours ago, tiagol88 said:

Honestly this era feels like what it was for Michael Jackson when he released Dangerous or something like that. Record breaking sales, big album, big budget, big tour, big everything but at the end of the day it's a star at the height of her career releasing an over bloated album.

No, that era spawned 3 US smashes and like 7 worldwide hits, with Remember The Time being one of his most remembered. Even HISstory had several legitimate hits on it. The pedo's only album that is precisely as hitless as Department is his last one he did in 2000-ish, but that was an overall bomb. Taylor's album was actually consumed. So, that doesn't work as a comparison either

[Bubble Tea]

I'm not really even a Taylor fan but I thought TTPD had some of her best work on it for a while. It was for the lovesick / depressed girlies and if you got it, you got it.

[Catch22]

6 minutes ago, NEX said:

I've been thinking about this as well. A lot of the songs on this album are seemingly leftovers from previous eras that didn't make the cut, which she then readjusted to the album's sound. The most obvious one is Thank You Aimee. It was clearly written in Reputation era, probably to some synth beat. But then she decided to put it on the Anthology, and make it into an acoustic song, which doesn't work at all with those lyrics. I've said this many times, but the main goal of this album was to have a lot of tracks: she wanted a Morgan Wallen moment with an album that wouldn't leave the top 5 for years (that failed). And she also wanted to have 31 tracks exactly, because 31 is 13 backwards: that's the kind of stuff Swifties really love their favourite artist to creatively focus on. So she keeps focusing on numerology and charts and keeps releasing bloated albums like this and her fanbase just eats it up without any critical thoughts and finds excuses to blame why no one outside the core base likes it. 

 

P.S. There are a lot of great songs on that album, some are even outstanding. She still has her writing skills, but she keeps focusing on wrong stuff (like numerology, charts, money). That's my main problem with her at the moment. This would have been an excellent 10-13 track album if she was a genuine artist, not a chartist. 

Nah, she's definitely written this while re-recording reputation TV, it references things that happened years later than 2016-2017.

[Kimi]

21 minutes ago, NEX said:

she also wanted to have 31 tracks exactly, because 31 is 13 backwards: that's the kind of stuff Swifties really love their favourite artist to creatively focus on.

now that's a high quality read 

[NEX]

18 minutes ago, Kimi said:

now that's a high quality read 

 

 

The reason Folklore and Evermore have 16 & 15 tracks each is because 16+15 = 31, and 31 is 13 backwards

 

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 08:03 PM by NEX

[Headlock]

5 minutes ago, NEX said:

 

 

The reason Folklore and Evermore have 16 & 15 tracks each is because 16+15 = 31, and 31 is 13 backwards

 

 

 

 

And you are trying to convince us you aren't obsessed 

[burninredhot]

4 minutes ago, NEX said:

 

The reason Folklore and Evermore have 16 & 15 tracks each is because 16+15 = 31, and 31 is 13 backwards

Stop making up issues out of nothing just to boost this thread  also folklore+evermore have 34 tracks I'm sure your obsessed a** knows that

[Rotunda]

They could have included this one idk idk

 

 

[NEX]

1 hour ago, Headlock said:

And you are trying to convince us you aren't obsessed 

Didn't you just go through the entire thread and downvote every.single.one of my replies. Talking about obsessed AND bothered

 

 

1 hour ago, burninredhot said:

Stop making up issues out of nothing just to boost this thread  also folklore+evermore have 34 tracks I'm sure your obsessed a** knows that

The thread is pretty active, I don't need to boost it. I was just replying to a member, it's not like I was bumping it 3 months later. And before coming up with this dumb take you could at least click play on the video which I timestamped where Taylor herself says she forced it to happen so 16+15 = 31, which is 13 backwards (peak creativity). She's talking about standard editions of those albums obviously. You thought you clocked me there

[KillingYourCareer]

It's a low effort project... even most of her fans admit it

[Infatuation_Junkie]

I've seen this episode and still loved the show

 

[MissedTheTrain]

7 hours ago, NEX said:

I've been thinking about this as well. A lot of the songs on this album are seemingly leftovers from previous eras that didn't make the cut, which she then readjusted to the album's sound. The most obvious one is Thank You Aimee. It was clearly written in Reputation era, probably to some synth beat. But then she decided to put it on the Anthology, and make it into an acoustic song, which doesn't work at all with those lyrics.

This is not true though, these are all new songs (we can see when they were registered).  She wrote Thank You Aimee with Aaron Dessner, who she didn't work with until 2020.  The way they most often work together is he sends her instrumental tracks and she writes on top of them.

[NEX]

51 minutes ago, MissedTheTrain said:

This is not true though, these are all new songs (we can see when they were registered).  She wrote Thank You Aimee with Aaron Dessner, who she didn't work with until 2020.  The way they most often work together is he sends her instrumental tracks and she writes on top of them.

Oh ok. Very odd song nonetheless