discussion Bi members, are same sex relationships less complicated?

[TedLasso]

Based on my small experience, it seems like there's a lot more focus on being "good enough" for a woman as a guy. It's not even just a feeling, I've had people tell me to my face that I'd be lucky to have a girlfriend like XYZ or  girls tell me to be more deserving of their time. I'm all for people knowing their worth, but it I've never been belittled like that by a guy. Is this a common thing, or do I just suck at finding good female partners? 

[LittleStarmen]

Yes most women want money 

[glitch]

1 minute ago, LittleStarmen said:

Yes most women want money 

I guess you've got nothing to worry about in that case

[shookspeare]

I often hear that men face unrealistic standards when it comes to dating women, but I regularly see beautiful women dating unfortunate-looking men so I'm not sure what to believe. I'm sure a good number of those men are wealthy but I have the impression that women are more forgiving than gay men when it comes to looks. Regardless, dating sucks for everyone, gay or straight

[RideOrDie]

4 minutes ago, shookspeare said:

I often hear that men face unrealistic standards when it comes to dating women, but I regularly see beautiful women dating unfortunate-looking men so I'm not sure what to believe. I'm sure a good number of those men are wealthy but I have the impression that women are more forgiving than gay men when it comes to looks. Regardless, dating sucks for everyone, gay or straight

well someone lied several times because gay dating standards are far higher than straight couples'

[Mtjjproducer]

Yes. 

 

A lot of women won't date a bi guy cause they think we'll cheat on them even though most of their straight partners already cheat on them. Especially hard to date black women because of that and the fear of hiv. Which considering that black women have a higher rate  of hiv from a partner I can understand them being afraid of that. 
 

men are easier because there are way less games when it comes to two guys dating. If I guy wants to just hookup or be in a relationship they will be upfront about it with me. Women will try and play games even though they just want a fling or if they want a relationship play harder to get to get you to chance them. 
 

Physically I find men slightly more attractive but I do have better long term relationships with women. I could settle down with either. 
 

I have had success with bi couples who are looking for a third. Seem to be fit for me personally 

Edited 11 hours ago by Mtjjproducer

[Selegend]

No. Same sex relationships are as bad as. 

[sugarysunflower]

9 minutes ago, Mtjjproducer said:

Yes. 

 

A lot of women won't date a bi guy cause they think we'll cheat on them even though most of their straight partners already cheat on them. Especially hard to date black women because of that and the fear of hiv. Which considering that black women have a higher rate  of hiv from a partner I can understand them being afraid of that. 
 

men are easier because there are way less games when it comes to two guys dating. If I guy wants to just hookup or be in a relationship they will be upfront about it with me. Women will try and play games even though they just want a fling or if they want a relationship play harder to get to get you to chance them. 
 

Physically I find men slightly more attractive but I do have better long term relationships with women. I could settle down with either. 
 

I have had success with bi couples who are looking for a third. Seem to be fit for me personally 

Are these couples hetero or non-hetero 

[Digitalism]

I always see straight men that do the bare minimum dating women that are far more attractive and competent than them 

[Revolution]

nah, women have low standards 

[Mtjjproducer]

41 minutes ago, sugarysunflower said:

Are these couples hetero or non-hetero 

Mostly hetero. I don't like dating a male/male couple. But do like dating a bi male/female couple. 

[JoeAg]

no 

[JoeAg]

i've never had a relationship with anyone, regardless of gender, that could be characterized as "not complicated" 

[Trent W]

Yes dating women is a nightmare 

 

It was not bad a few years ago but it has gotten so bad in the last few years

 

Internet content has rotten the dating scene in heterosexual relationships 

 

I think I have a bigger shot at having a LTR with a male than with a woman, it was the other way around by a long chance a few years ago.

 

It has gotten so difficult lately.

[Trent W]

1 hour ago, shookspeare said:

I often hear that men face unrealistic standards when it comes to dating women, but I regularly see beautiful women dating unfortunate-looking men so I'm not sure what to believe. I'm sure a good number of those men are wealthy but I have the impression that women are more forgiving than gay men when it comes to looks. Regardless, dating sucks for everyone, gay or straight

If you are an ugly man the only way to pull an attractive woman is having money or completely leave your dignity behind and surrender to her wishes

 

Most straight men are stupid af and have no dignity 

 

The fact that most see "having a girlfriend" as some kind of milestone or success tells you all you need to know

[Dumbledore]

22 minutes ago, JoeAg said:

i've never had a relationship with anyone

That one hit close to home 

[JoeAg]

1 hour ago, Mtjjproducer said:

 

Physically I find men slightly more attractive but I do have better long term relationships with women. I could settle down with either. 

wait cause this is so real  though my longest relationship was with a guy, all my other relationships that lasted several months were all with women or nonbinary afab people lol

 

I could settle down with any gender, I cannot be pinned down in that regard! tbh I might not even settle down with anyone, I might even just… have short term relationships for the rest of my life, and I'd be fine with that I think 

[fememeist]

Usually but same sex relationships still come with a great deal of complications too

[LikeATattoo]

2 hours ago, Mtjjproducer said:

Physically I find men slightly more attractive but I do have better long term relationships with women. I could settle down with either.

This is very much me. I feel that the male form is aesthetically superior to the female form (personally I find this to be an objective truth, but that's another conversation), however my relationships with women have been healthier and longer-lasting.

Edited 9 hours ago by LikeATattoo

[LikeATattoo]

I'll say that no woman in my dating history has ever made me feel negatively about my body/looks, while no man in my dating history has ever made me feel negatively about my finances lol. Make of that what you will.

[Kiss It Better]

no same sex relationships are way more complicated

[MonsterTown]

yes

[Cain]

I'm not bi but looking at and hearing my friends in both gay and straight relationships it just seems complicated no matter what

 

For different reasons tho, I will say my friends in gay relationships seem to be more upfront about their (sexual) wishes and desires with their partner and a lot of my straight friends seem to have a hard time with that

[Johnny Jacobs]

I've been with both. I dated in high school and she was really sweet.

 

I can tell you from someone who have only straight male friends. Some of them are happily married, some were happy but now they're miserable. Some are singles cause they can't find the one. 

 

In my opinion, it has nothing to do with dating a man or a woman. It all comes down to the person's personality. 

Some women are kind and some aren't. Same goes for men. 

 

I get your point as there are many women that wants a "proper" guy. 

A nice job, hot, rich... I get it. It's the reality. I have friends that went on dates that went well but never got a second one because they don't make enough money/a nice job. 

 

But gay relationship has its downsides too. Different ones. 

 

Bottom line... It all comes down to the person itself, not their gender. It's not easy finding a decent partner, but it's not impossible. Trust me, i know. Just be patient and dont settle. Many people do and it sucks

Edited 3 hours ago by Johnny Jacobs

[Prodigal Self]

I've only ever dated one dude and not only got cheated on for the first time in my life (that I know of anyway. got me thinking about it for a good while) but he also contracted HIV somewhere and I spent a couple of months thinking I've got it too and boy was that bad. Obviously not a universal experience but Much more complicated than anything I've been through before.