celeb news Lily Jay opens up on divorce with Ethan Slater

[Radical Pessimism]

I noticed that all three involved in this topic always give vague answers.

They're never straightforward about explaining what exactly happened. They all like to keep the conversation going for PR purposes. Isn't it obvious, you guys?

 

[Renem]

Wish Lily Jay the best in her future endeavors. What happened to her wasn't fair, but in life what is? I pray she heals from everything. 

 

As far as Ariana and Ethan are concerned, I pray they come to terms with their wrongdoing. I am the biggest Ariana fan I know, but I am not defending her this time. There is literally nothing to defend. She actually hurt a family this time. It is okay to admit she was wrong. This doesn't make her the miserable person y'all want her to be though. We've all done some miserable, inexcusable things in our lifetime, but I bet we wouldn't want to be called that.  

[Marianah Adkins]

Gays acting all moralist in here when y'all will jump on a committed dick the moment your asses found the opportunity 

[MattieB]

16 hours ago, Raspberries said:

Ariana and SpongeBob are vile

How the **** does this have downvotes?

[Pop Fan]

She might be Glinda in Wicked; this however shows us she's actually the wicked b*tch in real life

[Pop Fan]

Lily is kinda a real life Nessa Rose 

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, Pop Fan said:

Lily is kinda a real life Nessa Rose 

 

[Phaunzie]

16 hours ago, Vegvisir said:

Hmm maybe I brought him up because Bowen was:

 

a) in the Wicked movie with Ariana and Ethan

b) became close friends with Ariana while working with her

c) he felt the need to say something on his very popular podcast because he was upset that flat out lies were being spread about his friend

 

Like... we get it, you hate Ari, but at this point y'all are just being wilfully ignorant.

 

And no one said anything about who's allowed to do what, but I will say that making a whole body of music to express yourself in abstract ways is one thing, and publishing very intimate essays detailing the matter over a year later is a very different (and destructive) approach.

This alone dismantled your argument. Obviously if he was her close friends, he would cover for Ariana. 

 

@Communion What was that? Let's be honest, you don't just get divorced out of nowhere and the fact he did it while working in proximity to miss Ariana. Certainly, you can't be saying that Lily who was pregnant with his child and who he was in a 10-year relationship with, was sent papers before the Steal Your Boyfriend songstress and him were an item. 

 

What must likely happen was, when shooting started Ariana made advances on Slater and he saw a come up. Thus, him suddenly wanting a divorce and sending Lily her papers whilst beginning a relationship with Ariana. Hence why, while Lily was tending to his newborn baby, he and Ariana were at Disney living it up. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Phaunzie

[sailor angel]

2 hours ago, Radical Pessimism said:

I noticed that all three involved in this topic always give vague answers.

They're never straightforward about explaining what exactly happened. They all like to keep the conversation going for PR purposes. Isn't it obvious, you guys?

 

If you actually read the essay you would know that Lilly is a therapist specialized in helping people's mental health. She is going to spare details that could cause mental harm to the other two parties, it's literally her job. She forcefully had her personal life as a private citizen made a public spectacle and it's been affecting her career, so she posted this to share her side of the story and subvert the public narrative that's been made about her.

 

As for Ariana and Ethan, they likely won't talk about it cause the timeline is a mess and there's no way to place it where it objectively looks good and not suspicious.

 

Also not Communion trying so hard to cope by diverting the blame onto Swifties. A lot of us in here aren't Swifties babe, we just actually feel sympathy to women dealing with the extremely vulnerable hardships of motherhood and post partum complications while having her life ripped out in front of her for the world to see and be entertained by - a narrative her rat faced ex husband and Ariana contributed to. Just take the L to your ego and go.

Edited 5 hours ago by sailor angel
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[Communion]

1 hour ago, Phaunzie said:

@Communion Let's be honest, you don't just get divorced out of nowhere

...what? lol something wild like 70% of divorces are filed as no fault divorces, citing irreconcilable differences. 

 

Do you understand how antisocial it is - ironic given the accusation of cheating - to assume a marriage that ended during the postpartum period like countless marriages do is because of fan fiction involving a pop star?

 

No one is defending Ethan for being a loser and committing to having a kid and then going "sike!! My dreams!!!" or trying to twist themselves to defend something that Ariana doesn't need defending for given Lilly makes no accusation after finally giving her side. People have simply....moved on from this drama (Wicked is going to be the #3 movie of the year with Cynthia and Ariana heavily rewarded - poor Boq!) and yet you have people in here like "....BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!!!! SHE'S A WICKED PERSON!!! A WICKED WITCH!!! SHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!!". 

 

If you want to support Lilly Jay, feel free to pre-order tickets to Wicked: For Good cause I know Ms. Jay is RIGHTFULLY going to be CASHING in those child support checks on top of her own salary as a clinical psychologist. Make big deposits, her gloss is poppin', Mutha Lilly. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Communion

[burninredhot]

3 hours ago, Radical Pessimism said:

I noticed that all three involved in this topic always give vague answers.

They're never straightforward about explaining what exactly happened. They all like to keep the conversation going for PR purposes. Isn't it obvious, you guys?

 

Ethan and Ariana have nothing much to say (except Ariana saying "it's my business" on her album) because they know they did Lily and her baby wrong

 

And Lily is a smart lady who obviously knows revealing the straight forward truth would get her harassed from Ariana's fanbase

 

 

[shark_heather]

I still cant believe all this drama is on THIS GUY 

 

I was watching the movie and i was like WTF 

 

Anyways , Ari can do no wrong no matter what you haters say . Get a life 

[family.guy123]

32 minutes ago, Communion said:

...what? lol something wild like 70% of divorces are filed as no fault divorces, citing irreconcilable differences. 

 

Do you understand how antisocial it is - ironic given the accusation of cheating - to assume a marriage that ended during the postpartum period like countless marriages do is because of fan fiction involving a pop star?

 

No one is defending Ethan for being a loser and committing to having a kid and then going "sike!! My dreams!!!" or trying to twist themselves to defend something that Ariana doesn't need defending for given Lilly makes no accusation after finally giving her side. People have simply....moved on from this drama (Wicked is going to be the #3 movie of the year with Cynthia and Ariana heavily rewarded - poor Boq!) and yet you have people in here like "....BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!!!! SHE'S A WICKED PERSON!!! A WICKED WITCH!!! SHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!!". 

 

If you want to support Lilly Jay, feel free to pre-order tickets to Wicked: For Good cause I know Ms. Jay is RIGHTFULLY going to be CASHING in those child support checks on top of her own salary as a clinical psychologist. Make big deposits, her gloss is poppin', Mutha Lilly. 

Get a job. 

[SlimyGhoul]

I know what Lily went through was really rough and awful, but truly...this is none of anyone's business. None of us know these people personally. I don't gaf about this.

[burninredhot]

41 minutes ago, Communion said:

...what? lol something wild like 70% of divorces are filed as no fault divorces, citing irreconcilable differences. 

 

Do you understand how antisocial it is - ironic given the accusation of cheating - to assume a marriage that ended during the postpartum period like countless marriages do is because of fan fiction involving a pop star?

 

No one is defending Ethan for being a loser and committing to having a kid and then going "sike!! My dreams!!!" or trying to twist themselves to defend something that Ariana doesn't need defending for given Lilly makes no accusation after finally giving her side. People have simply....moved on from this drama (Wicked is going to be the #3 movie of the year with Cynthia and Ariana heavily rewarded - poor Boq!) and yet you have people in here like "....BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!!!! SHE'S A WICKED PERSON!!! A WICKED WITCH!!! SHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!!". 

 

If you want to support Lilly Jay, feel free to pre-order tickets to Wicked: For Good cause I know Ms. Jay is RIGHTFULLY going to be CASHING in those child support checks on top of her own salary as a clinical psychologist. Make big deposits, her gloss is poppin', Mutha Lilly. 

What did this lady do to you guys to be so back handed towards her my god?

[Breathe On Moi]

I'm sorry but every time I see this thread I keep reading "Lil jay" 

[family.guy123]

9 minutes ago, burninredhot said:

What did this lady do to you guys to be so back handed towards her my god?

Showed them what a responsible mother looks like and made them jealous? Beats me. 

[sailor angel]

42 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

Showed them what a responsible mother looks like and made them jealous? Beats me. 

Obviously this is a website predominantly for gay men, but some of these comments from users with he/him pronouns in their bios is very telling. I appreciate the men on here that are willing to extend their sympathy and step into Lily's shoes, even if a female experience like motherhood and the hardships that comes with it is not something a lot of users here will ever be personally subjected to (I mean me neither since I'm queer myself). On the other hand, some of these other users just try and mask their hatred for women and cover it up with their pop girl fetishes, while coming off as extremely delusional, misogynistic,  and embarrassing.

Edited 3 hours ago by sailor angel

[Capris Groove]

Is this not now the fourth time a woman has written about Ariana in a public way about this type of situation? First Naya Rivera, then Cazzie David, Nomi Leasure, and now this. Seriously, what's wrong with her?

 

Super insecure girl, underneath it all.

[mxoonlight]

The essay was well-written and I have empathy for her.

[Communion]

2 hours ago, burninredhot said:

What did this lady do to you guys to be so back handed towards her my god?

Not a single post has been an attack on her nor a backhanded compliment. We're veering into weird radfem homophobia territory if gay men celebrating women with things like "YASS QUEEN!!!" is seen as cringey or worthy of suspicion.

 

This woman is not a public figure. There's no work she's done I can give kudos to when praising her. 

 

So thus my reception to her is I'm shocked just how nuanced and sensitive she is in her words and she seems like she's only going further in her career based on how she spoke of her patients. It would have been a great essay to read even removed from any celebrity gossip and just about the field of therapy itself. Even the debunked cheating rumors aside, Ethan kinda gives loser vibes for wanting to start a new era of his life all because his career only blossomed now so much later than his ex-wife's and her personal success over the last decade as a therapist. 

 

I think you should question why you need people - even men, who'd just still be performing misogyny - to hate Ariana and hate her as a woman to be able to show respect to a totally different woman. These aren't dolls. You don't have to pit them against each other and rank them from least to most moral.  Go vote or something. 

 

You don't seem actually interested in any material lesson people can learn from Lilly Jay's story and what it means for women to go through a divorce so quickly after birth. You de-center Lilly from her own story in your eagerness to center Ariana, even when the essay essentially ends the "she STOLE her husband" narrative as false. The only actionable lesson here is that men who date women can and should be more sensitive to just what pregnancy does to their female partners and the kind of physical and emotional support pregnancy needs before and after. Obviously you can't change if you fall out of love with someone, but Ethan could have clearly waited to start dating again longer after telling her he wanted to separate given what she went through in pregnancy.

 

There's nothing though actionable for any of us to do since it's not our failed marriage nor do we actually know any of these people. And you want to focus this all on the one party out of the two who seems to have at least taken enough accountability to try and not address this drama because she (Ariana) is aware enough to hold space for the immense power imbalance between her and a private practicing therapist. It's been a year now of Ariana's reputation being attacked and destroyed and she's only ever spoken to deny that she herself ever has done what she's been anonymously accused of - all to protect the very same privacy of Lilly that the latter writes about in the essay as mattering to her most. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Communion

[SupremeGoddess]

i have a genuine question to ask, if Ethan got scared of his wife's success and career excelling and she was on an entirely different field than him, how is this man feeling now that his new girlfriend is (and will forever) completely outshining him in his own field?  how will mister spongebob react if ariana gets an academy nomination and continues to book major gigs while he just stands in the back? he sure as hell won't become a leading hollywood man, especially after this entire scandal. 

 

this relationship is beyond doomed and the moment it collapses you know damn well homegirl ariana is going to cry about it and make it about her as she always does and play the victim narrative and since she has the money, fame and platform to get away with it, she will. so this major ass LOSER and poor excuse of a man actually just dogged himself a deeper hole. 

[BloodLuster]

wishing nothing but love, health and good luck to Lily and her baby. No comment regarding the other two; life and karma will take sweet care of them

[ShouldersSideways]

It's obviously not black and white, but this is like the fourth or fifth time someone has alluded to Ariana doing this.  And, please, spare me the "You can't steal a man if he doesn't wanna be stolen!!!!!!!!" absurdity.  Anyone who willfully starts a relationship with someone who is already in one is wrong.  You can't help your feelings, but you can control how you act on them.

 

I don't think anyone in this situation is a monster, but Ariana being your fav pop girl doesn't absolve her from what she and the man she's not even going to be with for long did to his wife postpartum.