Mariano Posted yesterday at 06:15 PM Posted yesterday at 06:15 PM 14 minutes ago, Domination said: The entire Western world shifting to right wing populism is the awakening of the people? ? Are you saying this is, because of tiktok or? That was already happening before tiktok became big.
Onyxmage Posted yesterday at 06:19 PM Posted yesterday at 06:19 PM Yet Biden signed the bill banning it. Dumbass.
Onyxmage Posted yesterday at 06:20 PM Posted yesterday at 06:20 PM (edited) 22 hours ago, GiselleBeyince said: I just love how the inept Democrats seem to always find a way to get owned. Trump and the Republicans started the TikTok ban in 2020. Never could get it to pass. Yet, in 2024, the Dems were finally convinced by Israel w/ their blood money to pass the bill and get the app shut down. Now, Trump will come in, undo the ban, and take all the credit. The same move he pulled w/ the ceasefire. I need the Democratic Party to get real and realize that supporting the Zionist state has brought the party to its knees. Republicans fully support Israel too. If Netanyahu goes back on his word do you think Republicans will hold him accountable? Ill answer that for you. NO. Edited yesterday at 06:22 PM by Onyxmage 1
Domination Posted yesterday at 06:20 PM Posted yesterday at 06:20 PM 2 minutes ago, Mariano said: ? Are you saying this is, because of tiktok or? That was already happening before tiktok became big. I'm not saying TikTok caused it in the slightest, just good luck booking that awakening u speak of.
Mariano Posted yesterday at 06:22 PM Posted yesterday at 06:22 PM 1 minute ago, Domination said: I'm not saying TikTok caused it in the slightest, just good luck booking that awakening u speak of. Girl just like how there's bad/misinformed/ignorant people who support trump and the likes, the same way there's people on the other side of the spectrum who are in fact awakening.. like I didn't say it's happening to everyone I've never seen so many people on the internet talking about so many important issues and basically questioning everything, like why we live in this system and so on.
Vermillion Posted yesterday at 06:50 PM Author Posted yesterday at 06:50 PM 32 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: Yet Biden signed the bill banning it …that Trump's team wrote in 2020 before Jeff Yass donated $46 million to his re-election and Trump flip-flopped, twice. https://fortune.com/2024/12/09/trump-jeff-yass-tiktok-avoid-ban/ https://www.axios.com/2024/03/21/tiktok-jeff-yass-bytedance-donor-conservative 2
Vermillion Posted yesterday at 06:57 PM Author Posted yesterday at 06:57 PM Senator Tom Cotton is not worried about getting primaried in his stance against China and WILL call Donald's bluff for ALL 90 days, after which point TikTok WILL be banned because ByteDance rightfully isn't budging, at which point I will bump this thread. And y'all can bookmark this post. 1
Communion Posted yesterday at 07:02 PM Posted yesterday at 07:02 PM (edited) 45 minutes ago, Domination said: I'm not saying TikTok caused it in the slightest, just good luck booking that awakening u speak of. I think the theoretical to muse over then would be - would we be seeing even more rapid, worse far-right populism if TikTok as a platform didn't exist? I mean, something like "Libs of TikTok" for example started out as a """watchdog""" account on Twitter meant to "warn" of the "radical left-wing discourse growing on the platform". To conservatives, they view TikTok as a platform where young people were being exposed to extremely progressive ideas. The disconnect is just obviously that "left" elected figures like Democrats haven't found a way to connect to and channel that progressive audience in the way, say, Trump is so clearly more connected to online right-wing discourse and influence. So it feels like there's an under-appreciation for the kind of growth in left-wing politics in the US on the platform - and even in the very anti-class liberal way, with it being a real platform for LGBTQ people - because Democrats simply never found a way to actually exploit it so people are quick to discard whatever kind of social awareness and culturally political benefit it had... instead of just getting smarter Dems! Edited yesterday at 07:07 PM by Communion 2
Onyxmage Posted yesterday at 07:24 PM Posted yesterday at 07:24 PM 33 minutes ago, Vermillion said: …that Trump's team wrote in 2020 before Jeff Yass donated $46 million to his re-election and Trump flip-flopped, twice. https://fortune.com/2024/12/09/trump-jeff-yass-tiktok-avoid-ban/ https://www.axios.com/2024/03/21/tiktok-jeff-yass-bytedance-donor-conservative so thats why he backed off. Yeah, hes not saving it. 1
Domination Posted yesterday at 07:35 PM Posted yesterday at 07:35 PM 18 minutes ago, Communion said: I think the theoretical to muse over then would be - would we be seeing even more rapid, worse far-right populism if TikTok as a platform didn't exist? I mean, something like "Libs of TikTok" for example started out as a """watchdog""" account on Twitter meant to "warn" of the "radical left-wing discourse growing on the platform". To conservatives, they view TikTok as a platform where young people were being exposed to extremely progressive ideas. The disconnect is just obviously that "left" elected figures like Democrats haven't found a way to connect to and channel that progressive audience in the way, say, Trump is so clearly more connected to online right-wing discourse and influence. On the flip side, couldn't we question whether TikTok fueled right-wing tendencies in the American populace by promoting niche, vaguely progressive topics like neo-pronouns to drive engagement? I personally believe the average American holds far less political convictions than they think they do and mainly vote based on reactionary rhetoric. "Kamala is for they/them" campaign ad comes to mind… No shade to my neo-pronoun sistrens tho 2
GhostBox Posted yesterday at 07:47 PM Posted yesterday at 07:47 PM 55 minutes ago, Vermillion said: …that Trump's team wrote in 2020 before Jeff Yass donated $46 million to his re-election and Trump flip-flopped, twice. https://fortune.com/2024/12/09/trump-jeff-yass-tiktok-avoid-ban/ https://www.axios.com/2024/03/21/tiktok-jeff-yass-bytedance-donor-conservative The fact people don't know this or just don't care 💀 again not to sound like a broken record but the American people who vote are stupid 1 1
Communion Posted yesterday at 07:47 PM Posted yesterday at 07:47 PM 6 minutes ago, Domination said: On the flip side, couldn't we question whether TikTok fueled right-wing tendencies in the American populace by promoting niche, vaguely progressive topics like neo-pronouns to drive engagement? I personally believe the average American holds far less political convictions than they think they do and mainly vote based on reactionary rhetoric. "Kamala is for they/them" campaign ad comes to mind… No shade to my neo-pronoun sistrens tho I don't think though people reflexively or naturally are negatively positioned to these issues though. That our current reality of right-wing populism is not some by-chance exposure of people to niche issues like neo-pronouns but the explicit and intentional massaging of anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-migrant, anti-woman, etc. political messaging by right-wing figures in this space that they went to because it was growingly queer. And that Democrats simply lost a lot of ground in the online space because they didn't have the same kinds of people doing the same work. In part because online progressive movements have been populist in nature and Establish Dems rejected populism in a way that Establishment Republicans didn't and thus could better coordinate with these online voices. Republicans have been funding right-wing figures over the last decade to promote that trans people are ill. Democrats in comparison have put more effort in their online inorganic movements to fighting Bernie Sanders and promoting Israel as woke lol. 5
teresaguidice Posted yesterday at 07:58 PM Posted yesterday at 07:58 PM (edited) 11 minutes ago, GhostBox said: again not to sound like a broken record but the American people who vote are stupid and what does that make the democrats who couldn't foresee from a mile away that this would be hugely unpopular with young people and easily set the stage for trump to "save the day"? Edited yesterday at 07:58 PM by teresaguidice 3
St. Charles Posted yesterday at 07:59 PM Posted yesterday at 07:59 PM Well if Trump is only going to grant a 90-day "extension" then it looks like TikTok itself is going to go dark anyway. So he didn't really do anything after all. If anything, they might go against this law later. However, I think TikTok will go dark for a few days or weeks. 1
Gorjesspazze9 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago It's so weird seeing "Trump will save us" rehetoric on the official tiktok pop up. Like wtf? Does nobody think that weird 7
thesegayz Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said: It's so weird seeing "Trump will save us" rehetoric on the official tiktok pop up. Like wtf? Does nobody think that weird It's what bezos, zuck, gates et. Al. are doing right now. Not surprising 4
Relampago. Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said: It's so weird seeing "Trump will save us" rehetoric on the official tiktok pop up. Like wtf? Does nobody think that weird Very weird. I think I'm just gonna bury my head here for a good couple years at least. 1
Communion Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago fjkgnbkjfngkjnfg Dems going with Trump banning it to appease Israel only for Trump to get the CEO to go "<3 trump is gonna fix this for us <3" IT'S TIME TO JUST FORCE EVERY DEMOCRAT TO RESIGN AND START ANEW 3
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