base talk Bonnie McKee reveals what happened to the industry after "Royals" by Lorde

[bielneira]

The songwriter of inumerous global hits that we love revealed recently during a podcast episode of 'Behind The Wall' that Lorde's success made the music industry re-think their investments on pop music.

 

 

This is HERstory!
 

 

[Tylerbv]

This being the first thing she released after Royals came out  

 

 

 

[Blade Runner]

And they were right because the industry literally changed completely. 

 

Lorde and Lana's impact is unmatched. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Blade Runner

[bielneira]

1 minute ago, Tylerbv said:

This being the first thing she released after Royals came out  

 

 

 

This was released a few months before "Royals" smashed

[GraceRandolph]

Honestly the labels clearly used the rise of Lorde to basically cheap out of promoting pop acts and developing talent. 

[nostalgic]

6 minutes ago, Tylerbv said:

This being the first thing she released after Royals came out  

 

 

 

And it being a bop that deserved better  patriotic queen!

[bielneira]

2 minutes ago, LanaDelRey said:

Which of the three remaining Lorde stans paid her for this historical revisionism? 

 

Royals had zero impact on to the music industry and is largely forgotten today for a reason. Lorde herself was capitalizing on the change that Born to Die had ushered a year prior. 

You just can't help yourself, can you? 

Repeating that every time Lorde is recognized for her impact won't make your opinion a reality

[Bubble Tea]

I love Bonnie so so much but she's been fuming about Lorde for a long-long time. I guess Bonnie's moment came to shine finally to ride the Katy / Kesha wave and then it all came crashing down with Lorde, who also snatched away Bonnie's Grammy hope for songwriting "Roar" when "Royals" snatched it away.

 

I get it though, Bonnie started and debuted as a teen and her album flopped and she got dropped and had to work her way back up over the next decade. Meanwhile Lorde got the dream career, debuting in a industry-shattering kinda way at age 16 and going from strength-to-strength (until we-all-know-when). I'd be jaded too, but whatever Bonnie still made her millions and had her songwriting success. No one can sneer at her.

[Kanye West]

We want real pop music back. Not this hippie nonsense music

[Domination]

I mean she didn't lie. Maybe younger users weren't cognizant at the time but 1989 was basically pops final bow before fading into irrelevancy for like 5 years. Taylor herself released two lukewarm albums, Katy's only hit was Dark Horse, Ariana blew up with her trap-infused pop music, Gaga = Joanne, Rih and Bey weren't touching it, etc. 

[Jack!]

I watched this whole podcast and it was actually really interesting to be fair. Hearing her talk about the industry around that time, how Epic basically put her on freeze after American Girl because the trajectory was changing and how even a song like Birthday not becoming hit was a blow to her. It is true that after 2013/2014 "pop" took a swerve. She also spoke about how she was only able to re-record and release her album because her label never had it in her contract that she couldn't re-record, but now after Taylor apparently the labels are making sure to put it in their contracts that an artist can't re-record if they leave/are dropped, essentially gatekeeping masters. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Jack!

[PrettyHurts]

She was a cultural reset 

[BlossomSoul]

Without lorde we don't have Billie

[bielneira]

I love this video explaining how and why that shift on pop music occured
 

 

[JO1s]

36 minutes ago, Kanye West said:

We want real pop music back. Not this hippie nonsense music

The year is 2024 not 2014...

[sway]

28 minutes ago, bielneira said:

Royals had zero impact on to the music industry and is largely forgotten today for a reason.

Copy pasting the listicles directly here. 

Critical rankings for "Royals"

Critic/Organization	Time span	Rank	Published year
Billboard	All Time (Pop songs)	111	2023[182]
	Decade-end	*	2019[183]
	21st century (Choruses)	34	2019[184]
Cleveland	21st century (Pop songs)	11	2018[185]
	21st century	85	2019[186]
Consequence	All Time (Debut singles)	6	2017[187]
	Decade-end	4	2019[167]
	Decade-end (Pop songs)	2	2019[188]
Double J	All Time (Debut singles)	3	2021[189]
Entertainment Weekly	Decade-end (Pop hooks)	5	2019[190]
	1990–2014	*	2015[191]
Far Out	Decade-end	42	2022[192]
NPR	21st century (Female artists)	6	2018[193]
Insider	Decade-end	*	2019[194]
	All Time (Written by teenagers)	*	2019[195]
NME	Decade-end	50	2019[169]
Paste		36	2019[196]
Pitchfork		129	2019[165]
Rolling Stone		11	2019[197]
	21st century	9	2018[198]
	All Time (Debut singles)	29	2020[199]
	All Time	30	2021[200]
Rolling Stone Italy	Decade-end	11	2019[201]
Slant	Decade-end	3	2020[202]
Stereogum		23	2019[168]
Spin	1985–2020	34	2020[203]
Tampa Bay Times	Decade-end (Pop songs)	11	2019[204]
The Daily Telegraph	All Time	77	2018[205]
The Times	Decade-end	*	2020[206]
Time Out	All Time (Pop songs)	21	2023[207]
Treble	Decade-end	64	2020[208]
Vanity Fair		*	2019[209]

 

 

NME: Olivia Rodrigo says Lorde's 'Royals' "changed the trajectory" of her life

 

Griff: Lorde was a big [influence] — 'Heart of Gold,' for me it wasn't a version of 'Royals,' but I've always loved 'Royals' because it was just drums and vocals, basically. And so 'Heart of Gold' is basically just drums and vocals.

 

Billboard: "Along with the rest of acclaimed parent album Pure Heroine, [Royals] also set a new sonic standard for Top 40's cutting edge."

 

Stereogum: In the years after "Royals," record labels rushed to sign their own versions of Lorde. You could hear her influence in something as minor as the whispery vocals that a full-on mainstream pop star like Selena Gomez adapted. (Gomez, who covered "Royals" on her 2013 tour, will eventually appear in this column.) Shy and talented kids like Alessia Cara and Khalid seemed like transparent attempts to manufacture newer, more obvious versions of Lorde. It's frankly impossible to imagine Halsey and Billie Eilish, two acts that this column will cover, existing without Lorde's example.

 

These are just several of many articles from both artists and publications that have given Lorde her flowers in helping to bring a different sound to pop. That user will always try to discredit what is fact and will always fail doing so. They're practically part of Lorde's second fanbase by how much they reply to any Lorde-related threads.

[David_Greengrass97]

2 hours ago, Domination said:

Taylor herself released two lukewarm albums

Tf are you talking about? 1989 and reputation are lukewarm???? 

NO

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[Domination]

14 minutes ago, David_Greengrass97 said:

Tf are you talking about? 1989 and reputation are lukewarm???? 

NO

Clean your ears out 🪥

Clean your ears out 🪥

Clean your ears out 🪥

Clean your ears out 🪥

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Reputation and Lover…

[HungryByTheBuffet]

I'm a dragon . . .