discussion The shifts to Trump in some large cities by Demographic - More Data Added

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5 hours ago, Marianah Adkins said:

 

 

It is not a surprise that Asians swung hard for Trump this year. They are historically taken for granted by the Democrats and have been relegated to second class status (in the Dem establishments' eyes anyway) in favor of other minorities. Asians value hard work esp in education and crave for security so when you have affirmative action policies particularly affecting them l

What are you saying here exactly? What minorities are being placed ahead of Asians? How is affirmative action hurting them? What does hard work have to do with affirmative action? 

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5 hours ago, Marianah Adkins said:

 

 

It is not a surprise that Asians swung hard for Trump this year. They are historically taken for granted by the Democrats and have been relegated to second class status (in the Dem establishments' eyes anyway) in favor of other minorities. Asians value hard work esp in education and crave for security so when you have affirmative action policies particularly affecting them l

What are you saying here exactly? What minorities are being placed ahead of Asians? How is affirmative action hurting them? What does hard work have to do with affirmative action? 

[Capris Groove]

39 minutes ago, 45seconds said:

What are you saying here exactly? What minorities are being placed ahead of Asians? How is affirmative action hurting them? What does hard work have to do with affirmative action? 

Affirmative Action has been biased against Asians for awhile now. Harvard and other Ivy League schools plainly discriminate against Asian applicants, who are held to the highest academic standard of all races because they're historically such strong applicants. Data shows that Asian students with 25% chance of admission to Harvard would have chances increase to 36% if they were white, 75% if they were Hispanic, and 95% if they were Black. Source. Ivy League schools use intangibles like "likeability" or "positive personality" (as if there aren't Asian people who are likeable or positive) or just use hidden quotas to try and make things more difficult for Asian candidates.

Edited December 13 by Capris Groove

[Tropez]

3 hours ago, Communion said:

I do think this posturing is interesting because this election has shown that Hispanic and Asian are not meaningful categories due to the wild variance of class within them, even amongst ethnic lines and other sections of demographics. And that while there are plenty of criticisms about the way Democrats have failed working class Asian Americans (friendly reminder Bernie won Asian voters in 2020"s primary!) - much of the rhetoric about taking Asian-Americans for granted in the past has often had to do with issues largely impacting college-educated, usually suburban-dwelling Asian communities. For example, ending affirmative action was a pet issue amongst affluent Asian Americans.

 

Democratic losses with working class people of color are important, but it's interesting in what in this loss people will try to claim as the reason why for their own gain.

 

You have affluent conservative Hispanic figures claiming Hispanic voters hate queer people and pro-trans policies or affluent conservative Asian figures claiming Asian voters resent criminal justice reform policies, but unable to address the reality of how who these very groups of people supported in 2020 wanted a brash social + economic progressive.

 

This is the context of NYC, in Brooklyn and Queens. Which has a largely working-class Asian community. Because many are recent immigrants, and not fully established communities they have been passed over for more established groups in NY. 
 

NY cannot be compared to the rest of the United States in this regard. Many of the Asians in NY are not affluent suburbanites. They are mostly families living in poorer neighborhoods, who tend to not use their numbers for political purposes. Yes, I agree many affluent Asians tend to think they're speaking for their people. But they aren't. Unfortunately, people with money have the biggest mouths. 
 

A lot of Americans want social progressive programs. It's just the powers that control the two parties do not what this. And if Democrats in large cities like NY continue to ignore their constituents and get comfortable more people are going to vote the other way. Not because they agree with the politics, but because they want to see change. 

[Gov Hooka]

On 12/13/2024 at 1:31 PM, Prodigal Self said:

Dems BEEN over and you're still huffing and puffing

Girl… what? You seem confused

[Prodigal Self]

5 hours ago, Gov Hooka said:

Girl… what? You seem confused

Do you not understand what I'm saying? it'sok

[Delirious]

On 12/13/2024 at 1:17 PM, Capris Groove said:

Affirmative Action has been biased against Asians for awhile now. Harvard and other Ivy League schools plainly discriminate against Asian applicants, who are held to the highest academic standard of all races because they're historically such strong applicants. Data shows that Asian students with 25% chance of admission to Harvard would have chances increase to 36% if they were white, 75% if they were Hispanic, and 95% if they were Black. Source. Ivy League schools use intangibles like "likeability" or "positive personality" (as if there aren't Asian people who are likeable or positive) or just use hidden quotas to try and make things more difficult for Asian candidates.

It's only progressive if you exclude Asians from everything.

[MattieB]

LMAO. White people arent beating them allegations I fear

Also remember, alot of whitewashed hispanics see themselves as white

[katara]

The brainrot is spreading

 

Won't be long until the US becomes a mix of Idiocracy and Gilead (Handmaid's Tale).

[Armani?]

Based on precinct data, the drop offs in Chicago & NYC for Hispanic voters was much more severe than the NYT swing map since it was limited to just 50%+ majority average.

 

70%+ Hispanic Precincts

New York City - 32pt swing

2020 - 82% Biden/ 17% Trump

2024 - 66% Kamala/33% Trump 

 

70%+ Black Precincts

New York City - 9pt swing 

2020 - 94% Biden/5% Trump 

2024 - 90%Kamala/9% Trump 

 

70%+ Asian Precincts 

New York City - 30pt swing

2020 - 68% Biden/31% Trump

2024 - 53% Kamala/45% Trump

 

 

 

85%+ Hispanic Precincts 

Chicago - 32pt swing

2020 - 84% Biden/14% Trump

2024 - 68% Kamala/30% Trump

 

95%+ Black Precincts - 343k pop

Chicago - 8pt swing

96% Biden/3% Trump

92% Kamala/7% Trump

 

 

 

95% Hispanic Precincts - 352k pop

Los Angeles - 25pt swing

2020 - 81% Biden/17% Trump

2024 - 69% Kamala/29% Trump

 

70%+ Black Precincts 

Los Angeles - 6pt swing

2020 - 92% Biden/7% Trump

2024 - 89% Kamala/10% Trump

 

 

 

Hispanic Precincts

Philadelphia - 14pt swing

2020 - 83% Biden/15% Trump 

2024 - 76% Kamala/22% Trump

 

Black Precincts 

Philadelphia - 4pt swing

2020 - 95% Biden/4% Trump

2024 - 93% Kamala/6% Trump

 

 

 

95% Black Precincts 

Detroit - 4pt swing 

2020 96%Biden /3% Trump

2024 94% Kamala/5% Trump

 

 

 

50%+ Black Precincts

Milwaukee - 2pt swing

2020 90% Biden/9% Trump

2024 89% Kamala/10% Trump

 

50%+ Hispanic Precincts

Milwaukee - 11pt swing

2020 76% Biden/23% Trump

2024 70% Kamala/28% Trump

 

 

 

50%+ Hispanic Precincts*

Dallas - 20pt swing

2020 - 74% Biden/24% Trump

2024 - 64% Kamala/34% Trump

 

 

 

90%+ Hispanic Precincts 

Miami Dade County - 16pt swing

2020 - 63% Trump/35% Biden 

2024 - 71% Trump/27% Kamala

 

Black voters also collapsed by the same shift wise # in Miami Metro, although I don't have the breakdown. But it would likely be around 82% Kamala 

[Cesar]

Kamala should try again 2028!

[HeavyMetalAura]

Terrifying. But so many minorities don't know what's good for them, think of all #NeverKamala people on this predominantly LGBTQ+ website. 
 

Whatever happens in the next four years, we're only getting what we deserve. 

[Armani?]

39 minutes ago, Cesar said:

Kamala should try again 2028!

Well....

[XAMJ]

MAGA is already asking for public executions of immigrants ..... what a wild time