base talk Who is Taylor's heir apparent?

[Solaria]

And I'm not talking necessarily about an artist that the same sound/image as her, but who will be the female artist to be a generational behemoth like Madonna was till 2008, and what Taylor has been since and now?

 

Has that artist already had her breakthrough/are they established, is she not here yet, or has she not even been born yet?

[Arrows]

It's Billie imo

[Dear Reader]

Billie or Chappell 

[Loca]

It's hard to say because there's not really much of a pattern between Madge and Swift (other than being white) to see what it takes. I don't think we heard of her yet. 

[glitch]

Jojo Siwa

[JO1s]

I mean at this point madonnna didn't really have an heir in her career either.

[Calvin]

No one. 

[Solaria]

2 minutes ago, JO1s said:

I mean at this point madonnna didn't really have an heir in her career either.

Britney was definitely gonna be the next big thing and she ruled the 2000s with an iron fist, especially culturally. What happend after that kind of derailed her career but that's mostly due to things out of her control obviously.

 

8 minutes ago, Arrows said:

It's Billie imo

 

7 minutes ago, Dear Reader said:

Billie or Chappell 

I'd agree but Liv is much better at building distinct eras and at fan engagement than Billie is which ultimately is the key to a long, blockbuster career. 

[Dear Reader]

Just now, Solaria said:

I'd agree but Liv is much better at building distinct eras and at fan engagement than Billie is which ultimately is the key to a long, blockbuster career. 

That's also very true, Olivia is building a fandom and a long term relationship with her fans, she's mimicking Taylor on a lot of things. I feel that Billie has got the GP side though, I know a lot of people that are not fans of pop music but are fans of Billie for example. Chappell could be a wildcard, depending on her next eras. 

[DevilsRollTheDice]

I don't think we've seen her yet but out of the current crop I'd pick Billie. Most end-to-end control and involvement on her image/career which is a commonality between Taylor and Madonna. 

[MattieB]

A basic yt girl with painfully mediocre same-sounding type music who's the darling of America?

 

Not sure, we live to see

 

Also madonna had that many sons because she experimented a lot and succeeded, also a lot, during times where women were supposed to be safe

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[punisher]

i want it to be olivia but it will probably be sabrina

i think billie will thrive in a different way

[Klein]

Olivia is definitely the most obvious Taylor print on the new generation.

[BlahBlahBlah]

Wdym we have already have FIRO

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[Spicy Pisces]

I can see something like this happening to Olivia in the long run if her career and fan interaction are consistently on an upward trajectory like Taylor's was.

[byzantium]

Hard to determine 19 years into Madonna's career it was 2002 and we probably would've said Britney.

 

30 years into Madonna's career in 2013 we probably would've said Gaga.  
 
it will be maybe 20 more years to really see where the industry goes.  

[Kyoto]

32 minutes ago, Solaria said:

Liv is much better at building distinct eras

GUTS is a deluxe of SOUR...

[Feanor]

Taylor debuted 23 years after Madonna. We haven't seen Taylor's true "heir apparent" yet.

[Buffy]

59 minutes ago, Calvin said:

No one. 

This.

[hawx23]

Billie or Olivia. One key thing about Olivia is — Taylor writes songs that can appeal to anyone, young and old, etc. Her music is non-generational. Billie has such specific sounds and more risqué topics (eg LUNCH) so my parents for example would not listen to her, but they've listened to traitor or drivers license. 

[Brooklyn Baby]

It's Olivia

[Raphy23]

I wouldve said Olivia, but she seems to not be about the celebrity life. And sort of disappears when not releasing music which is very valid. Taylor can do that now that she's already massive, but in 2013 she was everywhere in the tabloids. Olivia gives me a very guarded vibe, like I dont really know her, while Taylor had that special thing of making you feel like she knows you and your almost like one of her friends. Idk it's weird, whoever can capture that same relationship with fans. Maybe Sabrina?

[Raphy23]

1 hour ago, Feanor said:

Taylor debuted 23 years after Madonna. We haven't seen Taylor's true "heir apparent" yet.

2 more years in 2027 she will debut

[JoJo]

As of now, Billie. However, Olivia definitely has the potential. She's already selling out stadiums for her GUTS (spilled) tour and will likely go on a stadium tour for her next album. Billie has no interest in that.