Jay07 Posted Tuesday at 02:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:55 PM 4 minutes ago, perfect blue said: At this point she'd need to wear a red MAGA cap and call her fans ******* for yall to get the picture. Whatever fits your headcannon. You clearly spend a lot of time on it.
Valgorie Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM She's definitely a conservative, although I'm sure that means something completely different in her head. Still one of the greatest American songwriters. 2
45seconds Posted Tuesday at 03:03 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:03 PM 10 hours ago, Bussea said: republican =/= trumpie as there are many republicans who do not like trump. it's been clear for awhile that she does have republican (and some liberal views) like many people with her background and age so idk why we do this every month We do it because it's fine to hate on republicans (despite how close to the center they are) unless it's a pop girl you like. It's blatant hypocrisy. 1
Yayo94 Posted Tuesday at 03:09 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:09 PM 9 hours ago, 808dream said: I'm wondering how she manages her marriage with a transphobic Trump supporter though. If I was married to such a narrow minded conservative I wouldn't know what to tell him I guess, everything would end up in constant arguing, but most likely I wouldn't have begun a relationship with him in the first place. I truly wonder how she can carry on a relationship with someone supporting a person she said she dispises 🤔 They probably don't talk about trans people, they talk about which gas station has the best snacks 1 2
OrgVisual Posted Tuesday at 03:37 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:37 PM 3 hours ago, May said: 🤷♂️ people move on .. i don't think many people wish to dedicate years of their life devoted to making sure Lana Del Rey is held accountable online for wearing a mesh mask 4 years ago .. sorry if you do she was lashed for all those things when they happened, but news cycles move on . People don't move on, people just giving her a pass now because she happens to be a popular figure and a "cool" artist to be a fan of The fact this thread only has 3 pages is also very telling. Now imagine if there's a thread about "Taylor Swift coming out as a Republican" or "Beyonce coming out as a Republican" 2
Illuminati Posted Tuesday at 03:51 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:51 PM 38 minutes ago, Valgorie said: She's definitely a conservative, although I'm sure that means something completely different in her head. Still one of the greatest American songwriters. I think even if she was a conservative there's a big difference between her and someone like JK Rowling. She doesn't shun anyone from enjoying her music, she doesn't push anything evil and doesn't use her socials to promote republicans. That was a big mistake for Katy and Roisin Lana is kinda like Stevie Nicks who self admittedly never voted until she was 70 1
JO1s Posted Tuesday at 04:32 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:32 PM Someone that romanticizes pre segregation America so much is obviously a republican… 2
80x100 Posted Tuesday at 04:38 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:38 PM 12 hours ago, Kayseri Mantisi said: I don't think a "?" was needed in the title. And change the "viral" to mega viral maybe . It's hard to believe she is not a republican when she implies on her speech that her republician, transphobic and bigot alligator husband shares her values and morals. Also I see how the fandom keeps using a 3828483847 year old screenshot as an excuse. A comment from years ago doesn't show that she is or isn't a Trumpie. Especially when she's married to one, when she loves to question the culture, when she's antivax & antimask, when she's getting along well with Morgan Wallen etc.
CottageHore Posted Tuesday at 04:43 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:43 PM Who gives a ****? Why the hell do any of you care about who some celebrity votes for. Not everyone holds the same values as you. That's how the world works. Don't like it? Don't listen to her music. If you can't help yourself then it obviously isn't that important to you and you must not possess the maturity level of a 10 year old 2 2
bielneira Posted Tuesday at 04:49 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 04:49 PM 5 hours ago, Khal said: The way she's always trying to seem like an "outsider", as if she's apart from the industry and not some privileged person whose background helped her True! I also don't understand why she portrays herself like a "victim". Besides SNL (which people were too harsh and too misogynistic on it), all things she was criticized for were VERY valid. And she never actually got cancelled, let's be honest. Her PR team is good, and her fans are even better.
bielneira Posted Tuesday at 04:52 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 04:52 PM 6 minutes ago, CottageHore said: Who gives a ****? Why the hell do any of you care about who some celebrity votes for. Not everyone holds the same values as you. That's how the world works. Don't like it? Don't listen to her music. If you can't help yourself then it obviously isn't that important to you and you must not possess the maturity level of a 10 year old If you are a FAN and IDOLIZE someone, I think YES, you should care about what that person stands for.
CottageHore Posted Tuesday at 05:07 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:07 PM 11 minutes ago, bielneira said: If you are a FAN and IDOLIZE someone, I think YES, you should care about what that person stands for. Who said anything about idolizing anybody? That's my entire point. Nobody, certainly no adults, should be putting any celebrity or artist on a pedestal. You shouldn't feel responsible or inextricably connected to what the artists you listen to believe and think. That's parasocial and very weird. And who are you to say we should care what the people we're fans of "stand for"? We listen to the music not because we want to be this person's best friend. And what has Lana "stood for"? She hasn't endorsed a candidate, she hasn't SAID she's a republican or a democrat. This is an inference y'all are making because she simply said loves her husband who y'all have inferred is a raging republican. So be it. Her personal life and political affiliation is irrelevant. 1
CottageHore Posted Tuesday at 05:13 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:13 PM 5 hours ago, OrgVisual said: Ever since she was praised as this TikTok god, she got excuses for everything she has done in the past. I have seen her very questionable and lowkey racist "question for the culture" post being used as a praise nowadays in several viral tiktoks and tweets; people hardly talking about the Covid mask anymore and nobody batted an eye when she collabed with Quavo. Even her marrying a Republican and allegedly being Republican is more being seen as a joke rather than actual criticism. I can't imagine getting this riled up over something that has never been confirmed. Lana never said she's a republican or even insinuating she is. Ya'll are projecting your own assumptions onto her statement because it feeds the critical narrative you've created around her. And Lana potentially being a republican doesn't get her "lashings" because (which is bullshit because here we are in a thread full of people lashing her over something that was never said) 1. She is constantly trying to avoid tabloids and extension of her celebrity and 2. This is a woman who came onto the scene with a patriotic image and who hops from Nebraska to Alabama to New Orleans depending on which hick she's dating. It's just her vibe and it really shouldn't be impacting you on such a visceral level. Mental illness
bielneira Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM 2 minutes ago, CottageHore said: Who said anything about idolizing anybody? That's my entire point. Nobody, certainly no adults, should be putting any celebrity or artist on a pedestal. You shouldn't feel responsible or inextricably connected to what the artists you listen to believe and think. That's parasocial and very weird. And who are you to say we should care what the people we're fans of "stand for"? We listen to the music not because we want to be this person's best friend. And what has Lana "stood for"? She hasn't endorsed a candidate, she hasn't SAID she's a republican or a democrat. This is an inference y'all are making because she simply said loves her husband who y'all have inferred is a raging republican. So be it. Her personal life and political affiliation is irrelevant. First of all, your point was not that. You just said "why people care? If you don't like her just don't listen to her", not anything related to idolizing someone. I was clearly not talking about people who casually listens to Lana. I listen to her music too. But fans take inspiration from her, from her songs, from her life, from things she says, and even go too far to defend her sometimes. I'm talking about those people. If you're not one of them, don't feel pressed.
EdgeofTeeth Posted Tuesday at 07:21 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:21 PM I took this more to mean that she values genuineness, honesty, and authenticity (which has always been abundantly clear in her art), and all of those things are hard to come across in an industry that largely relies on manipulation and exploitation to be successful. And no, I'm not defending her choice of spouse. Her history with Republican men has always been suspect and bizarre... But I also don't believe she holds any true bigotry or prejudice.
Illyboy Posted Tuesday at 09:52 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:52 PM (edited) are we supposed to be surprised? Call me weird but I'm the kinda guy who preffers to separate art from the artist so I don't feel "guilty" when listening Lana a couple times a year bc "oh no she's a republican" but tbh it wouldn't surprise if she were. I think it's weirder to pretend she's not and defend her or sth idk. Like, does it even matter that much, I listen to her music why should I share her values to be "justified" to listen to her music. I haven't heard the speech and I lack context so idk what she could have meant. If what people said here about Lana being anti-Trump is true then that's a good thing? idk i'm kinda rambling atp Edited Tuesday at 09:56 PM by Illyboy
dumbsparce Posted yesterday at 03:10 AM Posted yesterday at 03:10 AM How does one read "my values and morals don't match up with whats going on in the industry I work in" and immediately think "Ha! Trumpie detected!" ? Given how rotten the music biz is, we should be thankful for artists like Lana.
Flanders Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago I didn't read this as having to do anything with bipartisan politics. That could easily also be about views on materialism and brands (like how all musicians are trying to sell something all the time) or just the way people live their lives in Hollywood with drugs, parties, affluence etc. Respectfully, I find it deranged that someone would interpret this into having anything to do with trans people
NOW Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 11 hours ago, Flanders said: I didn't read this as having to do anything with bipartisan politics. That could easily also be about views on materialism and brands (like how all musicians are trying to sell something all the time) or just the way people live their lives in Hollywood with drugs, parties, affluence etc. Respectfully, I find it deranged that someone would interpret this into having anything to do with trans people 17 hours ago, dumbsparce said: How does one read "my values and morals don't match up with whats going on in the industry I work in" and immediately think "Ha! Trumpie detected!" ? Given how rotten the music biz is, we should be thankful for artists like Lana. The lack of Lana lore knowledge in these viral tweets is truly astounding
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