stjosephprey4us Posted December 8 Posted December 8 Let's resolve this for once and for all: Option 1 (with Jack) - Spoiler NFR! title track Mariners Apartment Complex Venice ***** **** it I love you Love song Cinnamon Girl How to disappear The greatest Happiness is a butterfly hiadtfawlmth-bihi Looking for America Season of the Witch White Dress Chemtrails title track Tulsa Jesus Freak Let Me Love You Like a Woman Wild at Heart Dark But Just a Game Not All Who Wander Are Lost Breaking Up Slowly Dance Till We Die For Free Dykttatuob title track A&W Judah Smith Interlude Jon Batiste Interlude Kintsugi Paris, Texas Gpsotsomfwhd-sf Margaret Fishtail Peppers Taco Truck x VB Hollywood Bowl Tough 35 songs Option 2 (without Jack) - Spoiler Doin Time California The Next Best American Record Bartender Summertime The Gershwin Version You'll Never Walk Alone Yosemite Text Book Blue Banisters title track Arcadia Interlude - The Trio Black Bathing Suit If You Lie Down With Me Beautiful Violets for Roses Dealer Thunder Wildflower Wildfire Nectar of the Gods Living Legend Cherry Blossom Sweet Carolina Watercolor Eyes The Grants Sweet Candy Necklaces Fingertips Let the Light In Say Yes to Heaven Lost at Sea Take Me Home, Country Roads 31 songs Which list above do you prefer?
Cruel Summer Posted December 8 Posted December 8 I mean Mariners Apartment Complex alone would win this for jack, but when you add A&W, Love Song, Venice *****, Taco Truck, Kintsugi, White Dress etc etc… 1
stjosephprey4us Posted December 8 Author Posted December 8 Imo, starting with "For Free", List 1 turns into dogsh*t. List 2 is more solid overall, and has better writing generally, I think 1
Europe Posted December 8 Posted December 8 (edited) Jack is talentless. Her work before she fell into his trap >>>> Edited December 8 by Europe
NOW Posted December 8 Posted December 8 The way the Jack list completely eats up the other one. Some great stuff on the second list but I believe if that one was completely erased, her career would still be in good shape. Jack has provided countless career highlights and we want even more I fear.
Venice B Posted December 8 Posted December 8 Jack is a better producer for sure but I think she was way more creative and versatile pre-NFR. 1
Gladiator Posted December 8 Posted December 8 (edited) My favorite albums of hers are Ultraviolence, Honeymoon and Lust for Life - I don't really like the albums he produced with her, I prefer Lana without Jack by large and I prefer all of her work pre NFR. In the context of the poll with the songs listed, I would say I prefer the songs he worked on to the ones he didn't. Edited December 8 by Gladiator 1
UBettaTwerkTwerk Posted December 8 Posted December 8 Love both lists, and think she can be really great with Jack. I just wish he (or other producers) would help edit her songwriting a bit 1
dumbsparce Posted December 8 Posted December 8 He's very hit or miss for me but afaik he wasn't involved in Blue Banisters and that ended up being my least favorite album of hers. I literally saved zero songs from it other than the godly Interlude. I don't think he ruined her in any way but, yeah, BTD to LFL absolutely **** all over his material.
SlowGinFizzzz Posted December 8 Posted December 8 (edited) I don't dislike Jack Antonoff per se, NFR and COCC are great, but it's evident that their creative relationship has run its course and there's nothing left to do for Lana and him as a duo. One of the things that made Lana so exciting when she first started out was that every project of hers had a completely different and unique sound, aesthetic and just overall atmosphere, and one of the reasons for that was that generally speaking she never stuck with the same producers for too long. Emile Haynie made Born To Die into something special, Dan Auerbach gave Ultraviolence his unique spin etc. Yes, Rick Nowels was a bit of an exception since he worked on Honeymoon, Lust For Life and some songs on Paradise (and I also don't really want her to go back to him), but at least those projects still felt different enough from each other. Meanwhile in recent years, Lana's albums have started to just bleed into each other sonically and especially Jack's production on Ocean Blvd left me rather disappointed, it's so far removed from the brilliance of NFR that I just wish they had called it quits instead. This said, I don't think you can blame just Jack for that; he had no production credits on Blue Banisters and yet it somehow sounds as if he did, so it's clear that that's how Lana wants her music to sound post-NFR. Ultimately I just hope that one day we get a radical shift in sound from Lana again, maybe something grittier, more rock-oriented (I can totally envision an album produced by Lenny Kravitz, for example), but unfortunately it doesn't look like that shift will happen with the upcoming album. Edited December 8 by SlowGinFizzzz 1
Loca Posted December 8 Posted December 8 Option 1, firmly believing that Jack is not the main creative force behind that group of songs.
sparrowblue Posted December 8 Posted December 8 he is really hit or miss. have to go without him. now do a jack list versus the songs pre rockwell. i mean the material of BTD and ultraviolence alone clears. 2
Khris Posted December 8 Posted December 8 jack is a ******* blight on the music industry and he has a secret hatred of women which is why he sabotages their music
pavi Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Bartender is on list 2, so list 1 wins by default Jack is overhated
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