AlanRickman1946 Posted November 23 Posted November 23 2 hours ago, Luckitty said: see how China grew its power and influence without bombing countless countries, toppling governments, destabilizing countries, and killing millions of people? and america wonders why the rest of the world prefers china to america for now...China isn't the worlds biggest military super power yet.
Youngbae Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) 5 hours ago, SmittenCake said: From my observations: China builds. America exploits and destroys. From my observations: your knowledge about, well, anything is the pits. Better stick to downvoting OGHs and reposting "news" about Iggy Azalea and Ice Spice, at least there you don't have to use your brain that much. Edited November 23 by Youngbae 1 8 3
John Slayne Posted November 23 Posted November 23 listen, i hate america as much as the rest of y'all, but i don't think a different flavour if imperialism is the answer... china is not doing any of these projects out of the goodness of their hearts. you might find yourself surprised one day when china's influence grows even more and they start exploiting world (they already have started in Africa and now LatAm) 4 1 1
Virgos Groove Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) 59 minutes ago, John Slayne said: listen, i hate america as much as the rest of y'all, but i don't think a different flavour if imperialism is the answer... china is not doing any of these projects out of the goodness of their hearts. you might find yourself surprised one day when china's influence grows even more and they start exploiting world (they already have started in Africa and now LatAm) I more or less agree with your sentiment, but I wanna point that no country does anything out of the goodness of their hearts. China is simply offering better deals than the US (who, most of the time, don't even offer deals; they just coup or invade 3rd world countries). There's a 0% chance of China (or Russia or the EU) becoming a unipolar force, like the US was in the 90s. America is simply too powerful and too rich to completely lose its voice in the world stage. What people - except for a handful of Chinese nationalists who have no real power outside of Twitter - are rooting for is a multipolar world where no country can have full control of the world. Of course, a multipolar world is not the solution to everything and will have its own contradictions (see: the recent case in Ghana where a Chinese multinational killed 3 people by blowing up rocks without warning the populace), but it will be better for the Global South. OT: It's ironic is that Obama saw the way the tides were turning and made a limited, but important outreach to the 3rd World (Cuban thaw, Iran nuclear deal). Then Trump reversed it and Biden (as well as Kamala's campaign) has largely continued those policies. This is why countries are turning to China. The EU is next. Mr. Xi, we Southern Europeans yearn for your high-speed trains. Edited November 23 by Virgos Groove 14
SmittenCake Posted November 23 Author Posted November 23 2 hours ago, Youngbae said: From my observations: your knowledge about, well, anything is the pits. Better stick to downvoting OGHs and reposting "news" about Iggy Azalea and Ice Spice, at least there you don't have to use your brain that much. This mental breakdown because myself and others downvote your obsessed posts in the Gaga threads let it all out henny
SmittenCake Posted November 23 Author Posted November 23 7 hours ago, Blade Runner said: China's president unveils a megaport in Peru, but locals say they're being left out https://apnews.com/article/china-peru-port-poverty-latin-america-1e06904f76cca1d7aaf19bca8bd24d93 By the way, that's how China operates. You have to be STUPID to think otherwise lol 7 hours ago, Blade Runner said: China builds, gets you in debt and then exploits your country through blackmailing, dirty favours, and intimidation. Same sh+t. It is known. They target poor countries for a reason lol I'm from Venezuela and the dictator here gives most of our oil to China because they send him money to keep the regime alive. But since China is a "communist" country and the world's saviour according to some of you, I guess it doesn't matter. I'm aware of all of this. Doesn't change the fact that China builds and America bombs & topples democracies.
Youngbae Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) 26 minutes ago, SmittenCake said: This mental breakdown because myself and others downvote your obsessed posts in the Gaga threads let it all out henny All this does is prove you're clearly out of your depth here, babe. How is Ice Spice doing today? How many pounds did she gain? Stick to what works for you. Edited November 23 by Youngbae 4 4
SmittenCake Posted November 23 Author Posted November 23 14 minutes ago, Youngbae said: You really think I disagree with your point of view (and I use this term very loosely here) that China does all of this "building" not to "exploit" (a point of view that contradicts actual FACTS, presented to you by many posters in this thread, and not the "FACT" that you've just posted without anything to back it up) because of Ga Ga? We're talking about actual issues impacting people's everyday lives; you're clearly out of your depth here, babe. "China builds, it just does". How is Ice Spice doing today? How many pounds did she gain? Stick to what works for you. Oh, and my posts in those Ga Ga threads are usually upvoted, no reason for me to feel mad
Youngbae Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Just now, SmittenCake said: 18 minutes ago, Youngbae said: All this does is prove you're clearly out of your depth here, babe. How is Ice Spice doing today? How many pounds did she gain? Stick to what works for you.
AvadaKedavra Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) 5 hours ago, shoganai said: CCP's tentacles are everywhere and is quite scary It is honestly Im not a Christian today but Sometimes i wonder if some of the bible prophecies are true. In the bible they say how the Red Dragon would take over the world helped by the Great Beast "USA". As we see trump (Apocalypsis Trumpets) is handing USA to China,Russia cause he's really dumb and if things keep escalating they will have free reign all over the planet. Everyone will turn against israel eventually and it will be destroyed (The Allies too). Rome will fall too and the catholic church In the bible they say how armageddon would come eventually. Anyone against them will be killed. Anyone against the 666 Then the antichrist will make people worship him I think the antichrist will be some sort of Android or AI enhanced human the first sentient robot. The first AI popgirl I can see the world livin in some sort of surveillance or slavery state in the future. Something like The Hunger Games, Divergent or Elysium I asked for a happy frutiger aero future when i was young and theyre giving me dystopic............ Human beings in power are always ruining things i wanted shakeshack and theyre giving me mcdonalds. I wanted balmain and burberry and theyre giving me shein and temu If the world goes down in flames. I will dance with my besties to the rhythm of (Come Through apocalypse) Edited November 23 by AvadaKedavra 1 4 1
Communion Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) The vast majority of the world is better off with a stronger China and a weaker America. Unless you're one of the select few neighboring countries in a trade war with them, China is largely an isolationist nation. And even then, there's not a day where we'll ever see China dropping bombs down on one of those countries cause they did something it didn't like. It's not that China is inherently good. It's that America being kicked from the spot of being the global central economic force is good cause America must then focus less on its military adventures and back to developing inward. Edited November 23 by Communion 4 1
crymelanie Posted November 23 Posted November 23 If people thinking China is innocent compared to other world powers i have some bad news for you.. 7
Communion Posted November 23 Posted November 23 44 minutes ago, crymelanie said: If people thinking China is innocent I mean, this shouldn't be hard then. Please cite any examples of China doing any of the following in recent memory: - Usage of drone strikes to attack other nations - Launched mass aerial strike bombing campaigns to attack other nations - Led military invasions into other nations - Organized and led regime change operations against other nations ? If the most anyone can cite is somehow twisting the issues of Taiwan or Hong Kong into any of the above despite not actually fitting any of the above descriptions, it reveals people endorse the brutality of the American military empire and imagine barbarism where it doesn't exist amongst America's enemies. 4 1
crymelanie Posted November 23 Posted November 23 3 hours ago, Communion said: I mean, this shouldn't be hard then. Please cite any examples of China doing any of the following in recent memory: - Usage of drone strikes to attack other nations - Launched mass aerial strike bombing campaigns to attack other nations - Led military invasions into other nations - Organized and led regime change operations against other nations ? If the most anyone can cite is somehow twisting the issues of Taiwan or Hong Kong into any of the above despite not actually fitting any of the above descriptions, it reveals people endorse the brutality of the American military empire and imagine barbarism where it doesn't exist amongst America's enemies. You're giving "unhinged" sis go read a book challenge :giggle: 1 1
Communion Posted November 23 Posted November 23 28 minutes ago, crymelanie said: You're giving "unhinged" sis go read a book challenge :giggle: So no actual examples? Surely they've carpet-bombed someone in recently.memory?
Popboi. Posted November 23 Posted November 23 15 hours ago, SmittenCake said: From my observations: China builds. America exploits and destroys. Well, observe harder. 1 1 1
crymelanie Posted November 23 Posted November 23 49 minutes ago, Communion said: So no actual examples? Surely they've carpet-bombed someone in recently.memory? Not only bombing but also exploiting and torturing Uyghurs China deserves the WORST andddd HOPEFULLY YOU GET YOUR ANSWER NOW GO BACK TO READING BOOKS next please
Communion Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) 13 minutes ago, crymelanie said: Not only bombing but also exploiting and torturing Uyghurs Is this... saying China is carpet-bombing its own province of Xinjiang? This is why hyperbole ultimately discredits whatever you're hoping to get across. You position yourself as not arguing America is inherently good yet can't stand to scrutiny when your claims of China as inherently evil are picked apart - ultimately leading whoever you're trying to persuade to realize China is not uniquely evil and that the argument of China as innately evil as a society solely exists to defend American barbarism. You can't make meaningful criticisms of China as a global concern while at the same time overtly defending and inherently downplaying (by de-facto exaggerating realities about China and inventing fictions out of thin air) what are objectively worse behaviors by the current American empire. Of course any smaller nation should approach an economic powerhouse with the understanding politics is transactional and not charity and engage with skepticism, but what is ultimately fear-mongering reveals people holding onto an antiquated campism - this idea of the world still being good nations vs evil nations - that just doesn't exist anymore. The world has moved beyond the kind of adventurism and hegemony that argues "America at its worst is still better than even the least-evil evil nation". What credibility does the US even hold anymore on the global stage to decide who are the good guys and bad guys of the world? Edited November 23 by Communion
Smarticle Posted November 23 Posted November 23 4 hours ago, Communion said: - Organized and led regime change operations - Hong Kong um... maybe not against other nations, but there is definitely a Beijing crackdown in Hong Kong. let's not get it twisted 1
crymelanie Posted November 23 Posted November 23 16 minutes ago, Communion said: Is this... saying China is carpet-bombing its own province of Xinjiang? This is why hyperbole ultimately discredits whatever you're hoping to get across. You position yourself as not arguing America is inherently good yet can't stand to scrutiny when your claims of China as inherently evil are picked apart - ultimately leading whoever you're trying to persuade to realize China is not uniquely evil and that the argument of China as innately evil as a society solely exists to defend American barbarism. You can't make meaningful criticisms of China as a global concern while at the same time overtly defending and inherently downplaying (by de-facto exaggerating realities about China and inventing fictions out of thin air) what are objectively worse behaviors by the current American empire. Of course any smaller nation should approach an economic powerhouse with the understanding politics is transactional and not charity and engage with skepticism, but what is ultimately fear-mongering reveals people holding onto an antiquated campism - this idea of the world still being good nations vs evil nations - that just doesn't exist anymore. The world has moved beyond the kind of adventurism and hegemony that argues "America at its worst is still better than even the least-evil evil nation". What credibility does the US even hold anymore on the global stage to decide who are the good guys and bad guys of the world? Gurl umm did i say anything to defend US? Reading comprehension is fundamental y'all
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