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one is supposed to be a musical another is not

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joker was a terrible film for incels and those incels dont want to see a musical about their hero getting humiliated, gaga not appealing to incels is a win for the monsters

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2 hours ago, BrokenMachine said:

It's such an easy answer: it's about giving their respective fanbases what they wanted.

 

The Wicked movie is carried by an outstanding fanbase of people who love musicals, and have Wicked at their top, and the movie just gave them exactly what they wanted, since they were literally waiting for decades for the movie to finally happen.

 

Meanwhile, the Joker stans wanted J:FAD to follow the same line as the first movie, which it didn't, and on top of that, added the musical element to it

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3 hours ago, commander said:

Wicked is just not a success because it was always a musical. Look at the catastrophic bomb Cats was. Ariana played a huge part in bringing the movie to the pop music audience and the gp in general so let's not.

Tbf I feel like it's been a running joke for decades that Cats is horrible and plotless. 

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The sane and logical reply:

 

5 hours ago, BrokenMachine said:

It's such an easy answer: it's about giving their respective fanbases what they wanted.

 

The Wicked movie is carried by an outstanding fanbase of people who love musicals, and have Wicked at their top, and the movie just gave them exactly what they wanted, since they were literally waiting for decades for the movie to finally happen.

 

Meanwhile, the Joker stans wanted J:FAD to follow the same line as the first movie, which it didn't, and on top of that, added the musical element to it

The unhinged and illogical reply:

 

4 hours ago, Burn said:

I mean it's expected. Ariana is a much bigger name than Gaga in 2024. Just looking at their achievements this year:

 

eternal sunshine: #1

Harlequin: #20

 

yes, and? (solo): #1

Die With A Smile (Bruno Mars featuring guest performer Lady Gaga): #2

 

we can't be friends (solo): #1

Disease (solo): #27

 

JFAD box office opening weekend: $37.7m

Wicked opening weekend projection: $120 million - $140 million

 

They are not in the same league. :sorry:

I think @Burn needs a well-deserved time-out from this board mods. 

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1) it was actually marketed as a musical. 
2) it stayed true to the source material

3) the source material was a fantastic book that led to a great script for both the broadway play and the movie. The script for JFAD doesn't seem like it ever made sense and completely disregarded the source material. 

Edited by loveisdead9582
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