Achilles. Posted December 15 Posted December 15 (edited) Leaving me no choice but to vote for Beyoncé in AOTY. That's really funny. EDIT: Oh, the sneak Chappell nom. Yeah I think I'll vote for her even if I listen to Cowboy Carter more. The way my tastes are wildly out of sync with this site. Honestly I love it. Javelin is better than that entire lineup combined. Edited December 15 by Achilles.
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 1 minute ago, Wicked said: Radical Optimism is not good, how did this happen lol I am...not sure! 5
Mr.X Posted December 15 Posted December 15 2 minutes ago, supaspaz said: And the nominees for ALBUM OF THE YEAR are... Brat Charli XCX Cowboy Carter Beyoncé Deeper Well Kacey Musgraves Eternal Sunshine Ariana Grande Hit Me Hard and Soft Billie Eilish Imaginal Disk Magdalena Bay Radical Optimism Dua Lipa Short n' Sweet Sabrina Carpenter The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess Chappell Roan Great list! Eternal Sunshine or HIT ME HARD AND SOFT win this for me 1
Achilles. Posted December 15 Posted December 15 40 minutes ago, supaspaz said: I am as confused as you all. She used to utterly dominate the ATRL Grammys. But the great Folklore vs. Future Nostalgia war of 2021 really burned a lot of people. I wonder if they're just steering clear now. A few of the swifties think you are biased against Taylor and rig things against her somehow, but most of them just don't really care because she wins real Grammys. 1 1
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 3 minutes ago, Achilles. said: The way my tastes are wildly out of sync with this site. Honestly I love it. Javelin is better than that entire lineup combined. It's interesting. He was more in the mix than you would think, but this site is just too pop-oriented. 2
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 Vampire Weekend getting that AOTY nomination the first year still amazes me 1
Luckitty Posted December 15 Posted December 15 7 minutes ago, supaspaz said: The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess Chappell Roan my AOTY
makeawish Posted December 15 Posted December 15 18 minutes ago, supaspaz said: Imaginal Disk Magdalena Bay WOW! and so well deserved
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 1 minute ago, Achilles. said: A few of the swifties think you are biased against Taylor and rig things against her somehow, but most of them just don't really care because she wins real Grammys. I thought that might be the case. I feel bad about that, but if it was true, she obviously wouldn't be our all-time most recognized artist. Every year, it feels like the Swifties lean out more and more. This is the first time since the 5th Annual ATRL Grammys that she hasn't scored a single nomination, and I think it's never happened before when she was eligible with a new project. 1
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 8 nominations: Ariana Grande 7 nominations: Sabrina Carpenter 6 nominations: Beyoncé Chappell Roan Charli XCX 5 nominations: Billie Eilish Dua Lipa Kacey Musgraves Kendrick Lamar 4 nominations: Doechii Megan Thee Stallion Tinashe Zach Bryan 3 nominations: Doja Cat Finneas GloRilla Jade Megan Moroney Shaboozey SZA 2 nominations: A.G. Cook Amy Allen Andrew Watt Brandy Bruno Mars Dan Nigro Fontaines D.C. Halsey Jack Antonoff Justin Tranter Lady Gaga Lorde Madison Beer Magdalena Bay Normani Ravyn Lenae Raye St. Vincent Troye Sivan Vampire Weekend 1 nomination: Alex Goldblatt Allie X Benson Boone Bentaur Pepple Beresford Romeo Brian Holland Burton Frederic Camila Cabello Caroline Ailin Caron Wheeler Carter Lang Chris Stapleton Cian Ducrot Clairo Connie Harrington Curtis Robertson Jr. D’Mile Daniel Tashian Daniel Upchurch Danny L Harle Delbert M. Greer Diovanna Frazier Drake Ezra Koenig Fiona Apple FLO Flo Milli Future Gentaur Memishi Gracie Abrams Ian Fitchuk Ilya Salmanzadeh Iron & Wine Isaac Earl Bynum Jack Harlow Jack White James Fauntleroy James Ian Anderson Jared Solomon Jean-Baptise Kouame Jerrel Jones Jessi Alexander Jessie Jo Dillon Joe Kent Joel Banks Joey Hamhock John Mayer John Mayer Jordan Fish Jorja Smith JT Kaelyn Behr Kaytranada Kehlani Kelsea Ballerini Kevin Parker Khris Riddick-Tynes Leland Leon Bridges Leon Ware Lydia Asrat Mannequin Pussy Mark Williams Max Martin Metro Boomin Michael Smith Mikkel Eriksen Miley Cyrus Monica Nellee Hooper Nevin Sastry Nickie Jon Pabón Nik Frascona Nilüfer Yanya Now Ghost Oscar Görres Ozan Yildirim Playboi Carti Poppy Post Malone Rachel Chinouriri Reginald Nelton Rob Bisel Rudy Sandapa Ryan Ashley ScHoolboy Q Scott Zhang Sean Cook Sean Momberger Sexyy Red SG Lewis Shawn Jarrett Simon Law Stephen Harrison Stuart Price Sufjan Stevens Syreeta Wright Tayla Parx Taylor Banks The Last Dinner Party The Marías Tobias Jesso Jr. Tommy Brown Tommy Parker Tommy Richman Tor Hermansen Tove Lo Tyla Uzoechi Emenike Victoria Monét Vince Staples Waxahatchee Will Archer 2
makeawish Posted December 15 Posted December 15 i like taylor, like TTPD to some value but it's not that great and also, a lot of the categories were asking me to pick fortnight and that's a big ask for anyone apart from the hardcore? 1
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 Thank you for bearing with me through a truly challenging nominations announcement! But we made it, and I had a blast spending this time with you. I'll have the official ballot up soon. 3
Achilles. Posted December 15 Posted December 15 1 minute ago, makeawish said: i like taylor, like TTPD to some value but it's not that great and also, a lot of the categories were asking me to pick fortnight and that's a big ask for anyone apart from the hardcore? A few of us tried pushing the superior Guilty As Sin but I guess there just wasn't enough support.
glitch Posted December 15 Posted December 15 Ariana having the most nominations in a year where her music felt kinda overlooked (until Wicked) is kinda surprising, but nice to see. Really loving the Jade and Tinashe recognition. Mothers convention 1
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 3 minutes ago, Achilles. said: A few of us tried pushing the superior Guilty As Sin but I guess there just wasn't enough support. It got longlisted for ROTY, but I have to admit, it was way down there...
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 1 minute ago, glitch said: Ariana having the most nominations in a year where her music felt kinda overlooked (until Wicked) is kinda surprising, but nice to see. If you had asked me the nominations leader, I would have guessed Charli, Beyoncé, Sabrina, Chappell, Billie...a lot of people before Ariana! 1
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 So what are your top surprises and snubs this year?
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 Biggest snub: Obviously, Taylor completely whiffing. But "360" missing Record of the Year and Best Pop Solo Performance shocked me. It was Charli's year! Biggest surprise: Ariana being the nominations leader might only be eclipsed by Radical Optimism making it into Album of the Year. Yes, that feels even crazier than Magdalena Bay. Pleasantly surprised by all the "Angel of My Dreams" love. 3
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 The buzz evaporated!
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted December 15 Author ATRL Moderator Posted December 15 Below is the official ballot for the 12th Annual ATRL Grammys. (You can relive the announcement of the nominations here.) Members can select one winner in each category, though it is not required to vote in every category. If there is a category where you are unfamiliar with the nominees, it's preferable that you skip it rather than simply pick a name you know — or better yet, use it as an opportunity to discover new music. Ballots are due by Sunday, January 12, and should be sent by private message. GENERAL FIELD Hide contents ALBUM OF THE YEAR Brat Charli XCX Cowboy Carter Beyoncé Deeper Well Kacey Musgraves Eternal Sunshine Ariana Grande Hit Me Hard and Soft Billie Eilish Imaginal Disk Magdalena Bay Radical Optimism Dua Lipa Short n' Sweet Sabrina Carpenter The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess Chappell Roan RECORD OF THE YEAR "Angel of My Dreams" Jade "Birds of a Feather" Billie Eilish "Espresso" Sabrina Carpenter "Good Luck, Babe!" Chappell Roan "Houdini" Dua Lipa "Nasty" Tinashe "Not Like Us" Kendrick Lamar "We Can't Be Friends (Wait For Your Love)" Ariana Grande SONG OF THE YEAR "Birds of a Feather" Billie Eilish Songwriters: Billie Eilish O'Connell and Finneas O'Connell "Die With a Smile" Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars Songwriters: Dernst Emile II, James Fauntleroy, Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars and Andrew Watt "Girl, So Confusing" Charli XCX ft. Lorde Songwriters: Charlotte Aitchison, Alexander Guy Cook and Ella Yelich-O'Connor "Good Luck, Babe!" Chappell Roan Songwriters: Kayleigh Rose Amstutz, Daniel Nigro and Justin Tranter "Houdini" Dua Lipa Songwriters: Caroline Ailin, Danny L Harle, Tobias Jesso Jr., Dua Lipa and Kevin Parker "Not Like Us" Kendrick Lamar Songwriter: Kendrick Lamar Duckworth "One of Your Girls" Troye Sivan Songwriters: Oscar Görres, Leland and Troye Sivan "We Can't Be Friends (Wait For Your Love)" Ariana Grande Songwriters: Ariana Grande, Max Martin and Ilya Salmanzadeh BEST NEW ARTIST Benson Boone Chappell Roan GloRilla Gracie Abrams Madison Beer Rachel Chinouriri Shaboozey The Marías POP Hide contents BEST POP SOLO PERFORMANCE "Angel of My Dreams" Jade "Birds of a Feather" Billie Eilish "Espresso" Sabrina Carpenter "Good Luck, Babe!" Chappell Roan "Houdini" Dua Lipa "We Can't Be Friends (Wait For Your Love)" Ariana Grande BEST POP DUO/GROUP PERFORMANCE "Die With a Smile" Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars "Girl, So Confusing" Charli XCX ft. Lorde "I Luv It" Camila Cabello ft. Playboi Carti "Levii's Jeans" Beyoncé and Post Malone "The Boy Is Mine (Remix)" Ariana Grande ft. Brandy and Monica BEST POP VOCAL ALBUM Brat Charli XCX Eternal Sunshine Ariana Grande Hit Me Hard and Soft Billie Eilish Short n' Sweet Sabrina Carpenter The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess Chappell Roan BEST DANCE RECORDING "Heat" Tove Lo and SG Lewis "Illusion" Dua Lipa "Make You Mine" Madison Beer "Von Dutch" Charli XCX "Yes, And?" Ariana Grande ROCK Hide contents BEST ROCK PERFORMANCE "Broken Man" St. Vincent "Gen-X Cops" Vampire Weekend "Lonely Is the Muse" Halsey "Starbuster" Fontaines D.C. "Ya Ya" Beyoncé BEST ROCK SONG "Flea" St. Vincent Songwriter: Annie Clark "Lonely Is the Muse" Halsey Songwriters: Ashley Frangipane and Stuart Price "Mary Boone" Vampire Weekend Songwriters: Nellee Hooper, Ezra Koenig, Simon Law, Beresford Romeo and Caron Wheeler "Mutations" Nilüfer Yanya Songwriters: Will Archer and Nilüfer Yanya "New Way Out" Poppy Songwriters: Jordan Fish, Stephen Harrison and Moriah Pereira BEST ROCK ALBUM I Got Heaven Mannequin Pussy No Name Jack White Prelude to Ecstasy The Last Dinner Party Rite Here Right Now Ghost Romance Fontaines D.C. BEST ALTERNATIVE MUSIC ALBUM Charm Clairo Girl With No Face Allie X Imaginal Disk Magdalena Bay Javelin Sufjan Stevens Only God Was Above Us Vampire Weekend R&B Hide contents BEST R&B PERFORMANCE "Check" FLO "Genesis." Raye "Genius" Ravyn Lenae "Nasty" Tinashe "Saturn" SZA BEST R&B SONG "After Hours" Kehlani Songwriters: Diovanna Frazier, Alex Goldblatt, Kehlani Parrish, Khris Riddick-Tynes and Daniel Upchurch "Check" FLO Songwriters: Ryan Ashley, Kaelyn Behr, Uzoechi Emenike, Curtis Robertson Jr., Rudy Sandapa, Leon Ware and Syreeta Wright "Insomnia" Normani Songwriters: Lydia Asrat, Tommy Brown, Mikkel Eriksen, Normani Hamilton, Tor Hermansen, Brandy Norwood, Victoria Monét, Tommy Parker and Tayla Parx "Nasty" Tinashe Songwriters: Eric Burton Frederic and Tinashe Kachingwe "Saturn" SZA Songwriters: Rob Bisel, Cian Ducrot, Carter Lang, Solána Rowe, Jared Solomon and Scott Zhang BEST R&B ALBUM Bird's Eye Ravyn Lenae Dopamine Normani Falling or Flying Jorja Smith Quantum Baby Tinashe Tyla Tyla RAP Hide contents BEST RAP PERFORMANCE "Hiss" Megan Thee Stallion "Like That" Future, Metro Boomin and Kendrick Lamar "Nissan Altima" Doechii "Not Like Us" Kendrick Lamar "Yeah Glo!" GloRilla BEST MELODIC RAP PERFORMANCE "Agora Hills" Doja Cat "Alter Ego" Doechii and JT "Million Dollar Baby" Tommy Richman "Never Lose Me" Flo Milli "Rich Baby Daddy" Drake ft. Sexyy Red and SZA "Wanna Be" GloRilla and Megan Thee Stallion BEST RAP SONG "Agora Hills" Doja Cat Songwriters: Isaac Earl Bynum, Amala Zandile Dlamini, Brian Holland, Jean-Baptise Kouame, Gentaur Memishi, Bentaur Pepple and Michael Smith "Denial Is a River" Doechii Songwriters: James Ian Anderson, Joey Hamhock and Jaylah Hickmon "Hiss" Megan Thee Stallion Songwriters: Joel Banks, Taylor Banks, Shawn Jarrett and Megan Pete "Lovin On Me" Jack Harlow Songwriters: Nik Frascona, Delbert M. Greer, Jackman Harlow, Sean Momberger, Reginald Nelton, Nickie Jon Pabón and Ozan Yildirim "Not Like Us" Kendrick Lamar Songwriter: Kendrick Lamar Duckworth BEST RAP ALBUM Alligator Bites Never Heal Doechii Blue Lips ScHoolboy Q Dark Times Vince Staples Megan Megan Thee Stallion Scarlet Doja Cat COUNTRY Hide contents BEST COUNTRY SOLO PERFORMANCE "A Bar Song (Tipsy)" Shaboozey "Bored" Waxahatchee "Man On the Moon" Megan Moroney "Pink Skies" Zach Bryan "Slim Pickins" Sabrina Carpenter "Texas Hold 'Em" Beyoncé "The Architect" Kacey Musgraves BEST COUNTRY DUO/GROUP PERFORMANCE "All In Good Time" Iron & Wine ft. Fiona Apple "Better Days" Zach Bryan ft. John Mayer "Cowboys Cry Too" Kelsea Ballerini and Noah Kahan "II Most Wanted" Beyoncé and Miley Cyrus "Superbloom" Kacey Musgraves ft. Leon Bridges BEST COUNTRY SONG "A Bar Song (Tipsy)" Shaboozey Songwriters: Sean Cook, Jerrel Jones, Joe Kent, Chibueze Collins Obinna, Nevin Sastry and Mark Williams "Deeper Well" Kacey Musgraves Songwriters: Ian Fitchuk, Kacey Musgraves and Daniel Tashian "No Caller ID" Megan Moroney Songwriters: Jessi Alexander, Jessie Jo Dillon, Connie Harrington and Megan Moroney "Pink Skies" Zach Bryan Songwriter: Zach Bryan "Slim Pickins" Sabrina Carpenter Songwriters: Amy Allen, Jack Antonoff and Sabrina Carpenter BEST COUNTRY ALBUM Am I Okay? Megan Moroney Cowboy Carter Beyoncé Deeper Well Kacey Musgraves Higher Chris Stapleton The Great American Bar Scene Zach Bryan MISCELLANEOUS Hide contents PRODUCER OF THE YEAR A.G. Cook (Brooke Candy, Hannah Diamond, Horsegiirl, Ilsey, Fujii Kaze, Caroline Polachek, Troye Sivan, Sam Smith, Hikaru Utada, Charli XCX) Dan Nigro (Chappell Roan, Olivia Rodrigo) Finneas (Billie Eilish, Nicki Minaj) Jack Antonoff (Gracie Abrams, Bleachers, Sabrina Carpenter, Lana Del Rey, Maren Morris, Paramore, Quavo, Taylor Swift, The New Look soundtrack) Kaytranada (Kaytranda, Mach-Hommy, Maeta, Mariah the Scientist, ¥$) SONGWRITER OF THE YEAR Amy Allen (Boys World, Leon Bridges, Sabrina Carpenter, Jonas Brothers, Tate McRae, Jessie Murph, *NSYNC, Olivia Rodrigo, Justin Timberlake, Koe Wetzel, Charlotte Day Wilson) Andrew Watt (Lana Del Rey, Calvin Harris, Jungkook, Lenny Kravitz, Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, Pearl Jam, Peso Pluma, Quavo, The Rolling Stones, Eddie Vedder) Finneas (Billie Eilish, Nicki Minaj) Justin Tranter (Bake A-yeon, Baby Tate, BoyWithUke, Chinchilla, Crash Adams, Blu DeTiger, Russell Dickerson, Rose Gray, Katseye, David Kushner, Le Sserafim, John Legend, Nicki Minaj, Paravi, Billy Porter, Chappell Roan, Jake Wesley Rogers, Saweetie, Talk, YDE) Raye (Beyoncé, Lucky Daye, Halle, Jennifer Lopez, Kylie Minogue, Neiked, Rita Ora, Raye, The Blessed Madonna) BEST MUSIC VIDEO "360" Charli XCX "Angel of My Dreams" Jade "One of Your Girls" Troye Sivan "Taste" Sabrina Carpenter "We Can't Be Friends (Wait For Your Love)" Ariana Grande
Element Of Milk Posted December 15 Posted December 15 (edited) Sometimes, a nomination makes you question everything you know about the integrity of an awards process. Enter Jade - Angel of My Dreams, a track that has somehow managed to weasel its way into the ATRL Grammys conversation. Let's be real—this nomination reeks of desperation, clout chasing, and, frankly, a severe lapse in musical taste. Firstly, let's talk about the song itself. "Angel of My Dreams" is neither groundbreaking nor memorable. Its production feels like it was lifted straight from a free stock-music website, with uninspired melodies and a hollow, lifeless beat that wouldn't even make it onto a B-side from a mid-tier pop star. The lyrics are equally banal—filled with clichés so tired they could put a toddler to sleep. If this is what passes for "Grammy-worthy" material, then we might as well start nominating karaoke performances at this point. What's even more galling is how this track seems to have gained its nomination. It doesn't take much digging to see that this was the result of fan campaigns rather than genuine recognition of artistic merit. Sure, stan culture is a force to be reckoned with, but there's a fine line between supporting your fave and pushing mediocrity into spaces it doesn't belong. Jade's fans may be vocal, but volume doesn't equate to value. Let's also address the elephant in the room: the competition. This year has been a buffet of artistic excellence, with artists pouring their heart and soul into works that resonate deeply and push boundaries. The inclusion of "Angel of My Dreams" in the same lineup is not just laughable—it's an insult to those who have worked tirelessly to create art that matters. For every slot wasted on filler like this, there's an actual masterpiece being overlooked. In conclusion, the nomination of Jade - Angel of My Dreams at the ATRL Grammys is a textbook example of how popularity contests can overshadow genuine artistry. It's a sobering reminder that hype often trumps substance in today's music industry. Here's hoping the voters do the right thing and leave this "angel" where it belongs: grounded. Edited December 15 by Element Of Milk 3 5 1
Namiskine Posted December 15 Posted December 15 Worst nomination of the year definitely is Radical Optimism as AOTY. Dua did release good singles, but the album was such a let down. 3 3
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