celeb news Yale to offer course on Beyonce's impact, professor shades Taylor

[itshyolee]

Here come the Swifties making it about Taylor and not seeing the bigger picture

[Princess Aurora]

I could use it for extra credits 

[Badgalbriel]

It's crazy how everything revolves around Taylor. Every little thing that happens in the cultural scene, is about her somehow. 

 

Truly the biggest female artist of all time 

[Badgalbriel]

31 minutes ago, itshyolee said:

Here come the Swifties making it about Taylor and not seeing the bigger picture

It's already about Taylor 

[Burn]

2 hours ago, liam13 said:

course on taylor: taylor swift

course on beyonce: taylor swift

course on taylor: kanye west, scooter braun and scott borchetta

[ScorpiosGroove]

9 minutes ago, kayliah said:

Its a niche impact she only sold 2.5 million copies ww. Also she is 'beloved' in the black community when her and team are not stealing from lesser artists and not crediting their work or paying them their due money. I've never valued her as an artist or musician but more of an entertainer and amazing vocalist. 

y'all are so 

[Rev8]

I love knowing that once-stans on ATRL, are professors in universities now

[Kristie Kuwa]

10 minutes ago, kayliah said:

Its a niche impact she only sold 2.5 million copies ww. Also she is 'beloved' in the black community when her and team are not stealing from lesser artists and not crediting their work or paying them their due money. I've never valued her as an artist or musician but more of an entertainer and amazing vocalist. 

Can you do me a big favor and for the love of God use your brain cells? Please, I beg of you.

If she was the thief you make her out to be, wouldn't she have been punished by law by now? Wouldn't she have lost cases? Wouldn't the fact, that her list of contributors, which is always long and used by her haters to emphasize how she is not writing songs herself, be a DIRECT argument for the fact she's not stealing but collaborating?

 

Please, just use your cells on this lovely Sunday morning for me. I would much appreciate it 

[Burn]

9 minutes ago, kayliah said:

Its a niche impact she only sold 2.5 million copies ww. Also she is 'beloved' in the black community when her and team are not stealing from lesser artists and not crediting their work or paying them their due money. I've never valued her as an artist or musician but more of an entertainer and amazing vocalist. 

Funny how OBHs will say there's too many people credited on her songs, then in the next breath say she doesn't credit people properly. Which one is it? Make up your mind. 

[itshyolee]

22 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

It's already about Taylor 

[AshleyLovescats887]

I wonder how Rory Gilmore would feel about this.

[liam13]

14 minutes ago, Burn said:

course on taylor: kanye west, scooter braun and scott borchetta

you know, if the course has discussions about those people, it'll still be about taylor because they did something that affected the trajectory of her career.

on the other hand, taylor hasnt done anything that directly affected beyonce's career so her being mentioned, shaded by the professor before the course even starts doesn't make any sense.

Edited November 10 by liam13

[no_better]

This is all funny and jokes but during my BA (in English literature) I had a week on Beyonce's Lemonade and the neoliberal politics of resilience feminism and it was actually super insightful and intellectually engaging

[Kristie Kuwa]

13 minutes ago, liam13 said:

you know, if the course has discussions about those people, it'll still be about taylor because they did something that affected the trajectory of her career.

on the other hand, taylor hasnt done anything that directly affected beyonce's career so her being mentioned, shaded by the professor before the course even starts doesn't make any sense.

How shall I put this?

I think what Swifties do not get is that whatever Taylor is doing, its only there to benefit her. Its self-centered.

Once you (mentally) grow up, you might realize that what Beyonce is doing is bigger than her. Its why she is also SIGNIFICANTLY more polarizing than Taylor. Thats why courses like these exist on Beyonce. 

Edited November 10 by Kristie Kuwa

[Badgalbriel]

5 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

How shall I put this?

I think what Swifties do not get is that whatever Taylor is doing, its only there to benefit her. Its self-centered.

Once you (mentally) grow up, you might realize that what Beyonce is doing is bigger than her. Its why she is also SIGNIFICANTLY more polarizing than Taylor. Thats why courses like these exist on Beyonce. 

And how does Taylor relate to this whole Beyoncé course? 

[liam13]

8 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

How shall I put this?

I think what Swifties do not get is that whatever Taylor is doing, its only there to benefit her. Its self-centered.

Once you (mentally) grow up, you might realize that what Beyonce is doing is bigger than her. Its why she is also SIGNIFICANTLY more polarizing than Taylor. Thats why courses like these exist on Beyonce. 

so because beyonce is doing bigger things, you can shade taylor who has nothing do to with beyonce?  what kind of logic is this?

there are many courses about taylor and you'd never hear anyone talks sh*t about others artists, the courses focus entirely on taylor and her career.

if the professor hadnt shaded anyone and instead focused on beyonce, none of this would've happened, you know that right?

 

also you talk about growing up mentally yet you dont know how to read the room? 

Edited November 10 by liam13

[Kristie Kuwa]

5 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

And how does Taylor relate to this whole Beyoncé course? 

Well according to the professor, she makes a case for how Bey takes risks, delivers groundbreaking products, yet still gets shut out of winning the big prices aka AOTY while others such as Taylor play it safe and still got lauded with these highest prices. The tea is nothing new.

 

Taylor has 4 AOTYs. All black females together in the history of that show have less AOTYs. Thats literally the point she makes. 

And mind you Bey had the best selling album in some of those respective years (ST, IASF and Lemonade all had great sales) AND the highest acclaim

 

So thats where the comparison comes about. 

Edited November 10 by Kristie Kuwa

[Rv1709]

It's clearly not a songwriting course 

 

Edited November 10 by Rv1709

[Malkuth]

Is the course going to include the bit when she flopped in 2011, which was really embarrassing and harmful to her image, so she spent the following 10 years refusing to release any music in the traditional way, so as to ensure she can never be called a flop again as nobody could ever know how successful she really was (or would've been?).

[dumbsparce]

32 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

How shall I put this?

I think what Swifties do not get is that whatever Taylor is doing, its only there to benefit her. Its self-centered.

Once you (mentally) grow up, you might realize that what Beyonce is doing is bigger than her. Its why she is also SIGNIFICANTLY more polarizing than Taylor. Thats why courses like these exist on Beyonce. 

None of her actions are genuine or come from an empathetic place. She just wants to be credited as the savior, the enlightener, the bow down commander, all hail your queen, etc. It's crazy how ppl still fall for that when it's right there in front of you. At least Taylor never tried to hide her selfishness. I'll take an honest narcissist over a pretentious artisté any time of the day.

Edited November 10 by dumbsparce

[smartalek22]

The rate at which the worlds of ATRL and reality (academia, politics, economics) are colliding these days🪦 

[Kristie Kuwa]

4 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

None of her actions are genuine or come from an empathetic place. She just wants to be credited as the savior, the enlightener, the bow down commander, all hail your queen, etc. It's crazy how ppl still fall for that when it's right there in front of you. At least Taylor never tried to hide her selfishness. I'll take an honest narcissist over a pretentious artisté any time of the day.

So a black mother speaking on her struggles and the struggles of Black people in the US is not genuine? Ok.

[Kristie Kuwa]

12 minutes ago, Malkuth said:

Is the course going to include the bit when she flopped in 2011, which was really embarrassing and harmful to her image, so she spent the following 10 years refusing to release any music in the traditional way, so as to ensure she can never be called a flop again as nobody could ever know how successful she really was (or would've been?).

So you believe Bey wouldnt have big opening if she released 4816272 variants and had pre-orders ready and basically inflate album sales by connecting them to touring Tickets, which was all done during these crucial 10 years? 

One of THE top touring acts of our generation? 

 

Ok.

[dumbsparce]

1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

So a black mother speaking on her struggles and the struggles of Black people in the US is not genuine? Ok.

No I'm talking about "aaahh Queen Beyonce thank you for reclaiming the roots of dance and country music. We owe you forever. AAahh what would we do without you"

[Burn]

1 minute ago, dumbsparce said:

No I'm talking about "aaahh Queen Beyonce thank you for reclaiming the roots of dance and country music. We owe you forever. AAahh what would we do without you"

Who said that?