Solgayleo Posted November 8 Posted November 8 I think the problem is less with "solo song" vs "collab" and more to do with the GP loving her power ballads and no longer resonating with her electro-pop sound. Aside from Rain On Me (which was carried by Ari's long track record for high first week performances for singles), her other big hits this decade have all been slower balladry without the dance production. Disease is fan service and is very good in that regard, but it's not what the GP wants from her. I think Gaga can have future solo hits if she leans into the adult contemporary side of her sound. Like more Speechless and You and I's and she will find something that clicks 7
Mr. Duff Posted November 8 Posted November 8 The article is right because Gaga also tried to do power ballads solo (Hold My Hand, Happy Mistake) but they were not as well received as her collabs. Thankfully she has Always Remember Us This Way more recently, but part of its success is still attributable to A Star is Born. I do hope she gets another huge hit solo, don't care if its dance or a ballad. She still got it for sure. 4 1
vanishingbee Posted November 8 Posted November 8 I actually really disagree the sound of disease has gone out of fashion, I'd argue it's more pushing the boundaries forward. There's a reason so many people have compared it to NIN, and that's because it's more positioned as a sound that's coming back -- the 90s were 30 years ago, aka perfectly on track to come back with the right vibes. 2
Femininomenon Posted November 8 Posted November 8 2 hours ago, Solgayleo said: I think the problem is less with "solo song" vs "collab" and more to do with the GP loving her power ballads and no longer resonating with her electro-pop sound. Aside from Rain On Me (which was carried by Ari's long track record for high first week performances for singles), her other big hits this decade have all been slower balladry without the dance production. Disease is fan service and is very good in that regard, but it's not what the GP wants from her. I think Gaga can have future solo hits if she leans into the adult contemporary side of her sound. Like more Speechless and You and I's and she will find something that clicks Didn't she just release Happy Mistake a few weeks ago? 11 4
AlbumOfTheYear Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Idc she served with this last single. Who gives a crap about charts 2 1
Ger Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) The amount of lashings and laughs I had with this thread. Pretty solid article regardless, I mean, they're stating facts. Edited November 8 by Ger 3 1
Phaunzie Posted November 8 Posted November 8 18 hours ago, Youngbae said: You guys have absolutely NO self-awareness. Like, at all. If only swifties were more like you monsters, who show nothing but love to Bey, Madonna, Tay, Xtina, Britney and most of all, her eternal boatmate Katy Perry, am I right? Just the other day there was a Ga Ga fan complaining about misogyny and calling Katy "T!ts", all in the same post. Is this the example of a fanbase that does not "hate women"? And also, it's just too bad that with all her "talent", miss Ga Ga has yet to make an acclaimed body of work. Taylor has several, so does Beyonce and Madonna. I'm not even going to mention their commercial success and cultural significance because, you know... OOOOps Expose ha, Little Jokers trying to be slick.
hawx23 Posted November 8 Posted November 8 20 minutes ago, Phaunzie said: OOOOps Expose ha, Little Jokers trying to be slick. Do you guys listen to each other talk because this is barely coherent. 3
V$. Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/7/2024 at 2:31 PM, manuelalex9810 said: They're really boatmates 1
Disconnect Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) 22 hours ago, AlbumOfTheYear said: When I find the Swiftie who wrote this That's not really Ellie is it? LMAO Edited November 8 by Disconnect
Funnyfatty Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Gaga is all fake and weird. Like what is Disease? She released Disease 4 years after her last lead single. The song is MID. No one waits 4 years to get another okay song. She lost lots of hype because she doesn't release frequently. Look at Bjork. She takes her time to create a masterpiece album everytime and it always works out. Gaga did not take her time to release this 2 7
Bookmark99 Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Obviously written by some gay man...stans have taken over music journalism 1 1
Jay07 Posted November 8 Posted November 8 30 minutes ago, Bookmark99 said: Obviously written by some gay man...stans have taken over music journalism If you want a quick kii, look up this guy's twitter account and you will instantly understand where all this is coming from. 4
burninredhot Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) Liddos resorting to attacking other girls in this thread per usual OT: It is what it is, what does him being a swiffer have to with stating facts? Edited November 10 by burninredhot 3 1
Windy Day Posted November 9 Posted November 9 lady gaga has album tracks from a decade ago doing more daily streams than pop girls album from 2024... so what is the truth really? 1
IVY Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) I blame her fans, they are always complaining and wanting the old Gaga back. But I feel like she fully wants to move on into other styles of music but her fans keep holding her back. A lot of them weren't even happy when she released songs like Shallow and her collab with Bruno Die with a smile, even though she got her biggest hits in a long time. Artists need to be versatile to continue having success on the charts. But whenever gaga releases a slow ballad or tempo song, her fans lash out at her. When I first heard disease it sounded like a dated pop dance record with some rock elements. The song lacked a good chorus and the music video didn't help much. Edited November 9 by IVY
Le Grande Posted November 9 Posted November 9 Not them actually saying she's streaming poison! Oh it's bad for her.
Dante Posted November 9 Posted November 9 Mother always held at the highest standard, which doesnt apply to others. Imagine being a journalist and this is the **** you come up with and put out. Embarrassing 3 1
GotMyBlueprint Posted November 9 Posted November 9 She can if she has minimal creative input. She's long lost her mojo, lbr. 1
LewisK Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) 1. If some random online haters or stans can realize what genre or type of song does well in the charts, so can she, as a certified professional. The fact that she's doing whatever she feels like, and it's not pulling every trick desperately trying to earn a #1 or keeping it like some other peers, just speaks volumes. She's has cemented her status and she only worries about her art, whether you like the material or not. 2. Are we music fans or success fans? Why all the chronic obsession with numbers? It's so sad and unhealthy, I hope you don't live your lives with that focus And before anyone tries to come for me, I've never bragged about Gaga or insulted other artists. Posted a couple of times about Katy because I was amazed at the lack of quality in 143 (imo), but if anything I admire and respect her passion releasing what she wants whether it charts or not. Edited November 9 by LewisK 2
LewisK Posted November 9 Posted November 9 Btw this journalist is so dated and ignorant Specially since the streaming era, hits are not necessarily marked by peaks, and a lot of top 10 songs flop into oblivion two weeks after. In fact, hits doesn't even need to be released in present time, just look at Running Up That Hill. So if you ask me, it's not like Gaga hasn't scored anything solo since BTW, when you have ARUTW, Bloody Mary and even Judas doing pretty well in present time
Funnyfatty Posted November 9 Posted November 9 1 hour ago, IVY said: I blame her fans, they are always complaining and wanting the old Gaga back. But I feel like she fully wants to move on into other styles of music but her fans keep holding her back. A lot of them weren't even happy when she released songs like Shallow and her collab with Bruno Die with a smile, even though she got her biggest hits in a long time. Artists need to be versatile to continue having success on the charts. But whenever gaga releases a slow ballad or tempo song, her fans lash out at her. When I first heard disease it sounded like a dated pop dance record with some rock elements. The song lacked a good chorus and the music video didn't help much. Her fans? Do we have to support her everything? The truth is, WHAT IS she doing to feed her fans? NOTHING. Literally NOTHING. She gets older, time is moving on. People are getting older and there is always someone else releasing music. I listened this year more to Sabrina, Tyla, Dua and Charli and none of those girls are in my top 20 most streamed artist but those girls are doing their best and have great music. Gaga literally threw Chromatica away and didnt release an album for the next 4 years. Fans dont have to be okay with EVERYTHING hello im not going to support buy stream everything she is doing she is not that important. I have a life
Bad_vocal_technique Posted November 9 Posted November 9 I don't even like Garga myself, but this optic about pop artists needing to be on top for ever to be considered of value is insane. Not everyone needs to be Taylor Swift or Beyonce and that's fine coz their tactics and fan bases have ruined my enjoyment of their art. luckily my fave Lana was never attached to chart runs somehow and she is still enormously successful. 3
Misguided Ghost Posted November 9 Posted November 9 I feel like Gaga focuses too much on doing everything at once: being an actress, a pop star and a business woman. Sometimes it works and sometimes you just have to choose. Take some time off instead of doing bunch of other endeavours, get yourself inspired and come back with a worthy material, because "Disease" is just not it.
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