celeb news Vulture: "Will Lady Gaga ever score another solo hit?"

[Calvin]

No

[swissman]

Though we could point to Shallow and DWAS as examples of her collaborations outperforming her solo hits, I think the key ingredient here is not so much the other singer but that they both are a sort of non-threatening, uncontroversial, classic-type pop song that appeals not only to young people (they have great melodies) but older people too who aren't into the whole ostentatious pop that Gaga is known for. I think this is a major reason that someone like Adele is so popular and successful, and both song could easily be sung by Adele, being in the same category of her own music where it's simply about a good song and there's really nothing challenging listeners at all.

 

As for Rain on Me, that song is miles better than Stupid Love and if it had been a solo song and the debut, I would say that it could have debuted at #1 or higher than #5 which isn't very low to begin with.

 

 

Edited November 7 by swissman

[NoAngelus]

Her career has been on life support ever since BTW, only collabs with bigger artists and payola are keeping her alive. The fact that she's out of 50 on Spotify while being WHOLE WEEK at #1 on TTH. The payola will never stop. 

[halcyonday]

Somehow she keeps losing. I CAN stand it.

 

[Onyxmage]

Now that Trump won she should release another pseudo midwestern christian ballad like Million Reasons. It will be a HIT in the rustbelt states.  

[Florence Belch]

There is a reason why online stan lingo should stay in pop forums, cause no matter the artist, it screams second hand embarassment 

 

[swissman]

In the case of both Stupid Love and Disease, unfortunately both are watered down retreads of what we already have, and what was impactful and fresh sounding when she did it in 2010 and 2011, but which now is only as exciting as an announcement of a "return to form" could be without that form having been improved upon or evolved.

 

So, I don't think what's stopping her is a lack of solo interest but rather a lack of great pop singles as she once was known for. It just so happens that the greatest singles she's put out in the last 6 years have been collaborations.

 

 

Edited November 7 by swissman

[Alongoria13]

Wbk

 

Using ARUTW as an excuse is weird, imagine Madonna stans saying Erotica was a solo hit! in 2000?

[B-Luke]

Oh Culture Vulture when I catch you

 

[Janet]

9 minutes ago, NoAngelus said:

Her career has been on life support ever since BTW, only collabs with bigger artists and payola are keeping her alive. The fact that she's out of 50 on Spotify while being WHOLE WEEK at #1 on TTH. The payola will never stop. 

Yeah because Payola sells out stadiums worldwide.

[Universo]

yes 

[NoAngelus]

1 minute ago, Janet said:

Yeah because Payola sells out stadiums worldwide.

Pretty much everyone sells tickets in 21st century. Touring is more popular than ever. And even there she is far behind.

 

Katy will also sell tickets. Hopefully this helps you. 

[Zaram]

1 minute ago, NoAngelus said:

Pretty much everyone sells tickets in 21st century. Touring is more popular than ever. And even there she is far behind.

 

Katy will also sell tickets. Hopefully this helps you. 

She wasn't even able to sell her 1000 Vegas tickets

[Just a Gay on ATRL]

Honestly that article is horrible, shameless "journalism".
 

The cultural obsession with solo hits is really weird. Literally who cares? She has tons of solo hits to her name in her long career, more than most musicians will ever achieve now or in the future. This feels like a petty attempt to discredit her.

 

Other artists in pop, rap and country constantly collaborate with other artists. I think about half, if not more, of her collaborator Bruno Mars' US Top 10s are collaborations. Post Malone's latest album is almost entirely collaborations and no one gives af. Most rap artists entire discographies are collaborations.

 

I've consistently noticed the differentiation of "solo" versus "non-solo" hits is a nuanced standard strictly put on female artists and much less on male artists. Seems to be a way to kinda discredit female artists' long accomplishments, as if they're trying to say "well Gaga used to have solo hits, but now because they're not solo, she's a has been!" This statement is obviously untrue but I think that's the insane logic some of these people are using when shouting about "solo hits".

 

I also think us pop fans need to take a step back and question why we are questioning women about "solo" hits or not. It just seems super ill intentioned to me.

[JennyWayne]

30 minutes ago, Sugden said:

a swifite

 

Makes sense. Nobody outside of Stan Twitter cares enough about the solo metric anyway

[Blue Monday]

Nothing but TEA 

[tost1]

steFani gErmAnoTta

 

But wait...

Stefani jOanne angeLina germanOtta

 

[ScorpiosGroove]

not beyoncé catching strays at the end of the article

[manuelalex9810]

3 minutes ago, JennyWayne said:

Nobody outside of Stan Twitter cares enough about the solo metric anyway

I mean, it's not the first article that has been written 

 

[charot]

It's giving atrler so amateurish.

[Hexchromatica]

after the week we've had, genuinely who ******* cares where a pop song places in the charts

[KOMH]

But I thought it was just an ATRL narrative? Oh GaGa

 

 

[Kayzan]

I guess we can't really trust Vulture now

 

[Giorgoc]

27 minutes ago, swissman said:

Though we could point to Shallow and DWAS as examples of her collaborations outperforming her solo hits, I think the key ingredient here is not so much the other singer but that they both are a sort of non-threatening, uncontroversial, classic-type pop song that appeals not only to young people (they have great melodies) but older people too who aren't into the whole ostentatious pop that Gaga is known for. I think this is a major reason that someone like Adele is so popular and successful, and both song could easily be sung by Adele, being in the same category of her own music where it's simply about a good song and there's really nothing challenging listeners at all.

 

As for Rain on Me, that song is miles better than Stupid Love and if it had been a solo song and the debut, I would say that it could have debuted at #1 or higher than #5 which isn't very low to begin with.

 

 

Thank you for bringing some sense into this thread.

[KOMH]

40 minutes ago, Sugden said:

a swifite

 

This king I'm on my knees