Calvin Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) Isn't it 4.8? Or did pitchfork lower the score? Edited October 30 by Calvin
Pavement Princess Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Did I miss a pronoun reveal? Why is everyone referring to them as they?
Popular Post Bends Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 8 minutes ago, Pavement Princess said: Did I miss a pronoun reveal? Why is everyone referring to them as they? Many think Halsey is a band. 26
Matchatea Posted October 30 Author Posted October 30 27 minutes ago, Calvin said: Isn't it 4.8? Or did pitchfork lower the score? I'm high to im sorry snsjsjsdjjcgi 2
Suilen Posted October 30 Posted October 30 13 minutes ago, Pavement Princess said: Did I miss a pronoun reveal? Why is everyone referring to them as they? Halsey uses she/they. Maybe Pitchfork thought that by using they the misogyny in the review will somehow feel less pronounced. 10 4
suburbannature Posted October 30 Posted October 30 28 minutes ago, Suilen said: Halsey uses she/they. Maybe Pitchfork thought that by using they the misogyny in the review will somehow feel less pronounced. What misogyny? Not liking the album? 1 13
Popular Post Lady Claire Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 24 minutes ago, suburbannature said: What misogyny? Not liking the album? Maybe not reducing her battle against chronic illness that almost killed her as "victimhood" would be a good start! 25 6
Popular Post Suilen Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 13 minutes ago, suburbannature said: What misogyny? Not liking the album? Implying that she didn't listen to the artists she impersonated and that it was only good enough for Instagram feels like a common attack against women (a woman can't be a gamer, a woman can't listen to sophisticated music), for one. They also don't get to decide how Halsey redefines the concept of a muse, which they themselves admit is inherently objectifying. Throughout the text, there's this permeating idea that 'other women did (or would've done) it better, your input isn't needed', which isn't that far from some stan wars here. They're free to dislike the album, obviously, but when the album is about sensitive subjects and inspired by the feminine experience of post-partum depression, which is acknowledged but downplayed in the review, one has to walk a fine line, and I feel like they crossed it here. 25 1
Gladiator Posted October 30 Posted October 30 honestly, period. she took the high road. that is more than i can say for some - including myself. i'd like to bully that person who wrote that.
suburbannature Posted October 30 Posted October 30 5 minutes ago, Suilen said: Implying that she didn't listen to the artists she impersonated and that it was only good enough for Instagram feels like a common attack against women (a woman can't be a gamer, a woman can't listen to sophisticated music), for one. They also don't get to decide how Halsey redefines the concept of a muse, which they themselves admit is inherently objectifying. Throughout the text, there's this permeating idea that 'other women did (or would've done) it better, your input isn't needed', which isn't that far from some stan wars here. They're free to dislike the album, obviously, but when the album is about sensitive subjects and inspired by the feminine experience of post-partum depression, which is acknowledged but downplayed in the review, one has to walk a fine line, and I feel like they crossed it here. Ok, but the impersonation bit IS a fair criticism considering that the songs sounded nothing like their alleged inspirations. Someone even clocked her previously saying one of the songs was mainly inspired by a completely different artist. She used the concept for a cute gimmick and it was fun, but I'm also unsurprised that fans fell for it. 1 4
Paddy Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, suburbannature said: the songs sounded nothing like their alleged inspirations But they are not meant to sound like the artists. The inspired her, be it sonically, lyrically, visually, how to song feels, it wasn't mean to be a complete copy of them. Imagine if she did that. The album would be messy, incoherent, messy and then the review would say that the album is unoriginal and just copying artist. Also, most importantly, she thought this would be her last album, that she wouldn't survive, her state of mind must have been affected hence also reflected in the songs. 5 3
Kern Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, suburbannature said: Ok, but the impersonation bit IS a fair criticism considering that the songs sounded nothing like their alleged inspirations. They were not supposed to…? Y'all just being a little dumb at this point. And the pitchfork review was horrible Edited October 30 by Kern 1
Same Ol' Mistakes Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, suburbannature said: Ok, but the impersonation bit IS a fair criticism considering that the songs sounded nothing like their alleged inspirations. Someone even clocked her previously saying one of the songs was mainly inspired by a completely different artist. She used the concept for a cute gimmick and it was fun, but I'm also unsurprised that fans fell for it. It's why she said the songs were inspired by the artists. Not every inspiration has to be an exact carbon copy 3
kayliah Posted October 30 Posted October 30 The songs are terrible. Pitchfork was kind id given it a 2 star review. 4 11
Achilles. Posted October 30 Posted October 30 She always keeps a foot on Pitchfork's neck one way or another and we love to see it. 3
Mr. Peanutbutter Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Responded with maturity. Whoever wrote that review should take notes
BlahBlahBlah Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Mr. Peanutbutter said: Responded with maturity. Whoever wrote that review should take notes Quite thoughtfully, she made sure to mention the author at the bottom of the post for the whole world to see
Maxxxine Posted October 30 Posted October 30 4 hours ago, Paddy said: Imagine if she did that. The album would be messy, incoherent, messy It still is
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