charts discussion Lady Gaga - Disease | Day 16: #111 Global (-29), 1.5M (-240K)

[shyboi]

4 hours ago, brutal said:

This is just so funny because you just KNOW Gaga and her team thought they hit the jackpot with this rollout. Blockbuster film smashing, companion soundtrack benefiting from that, then kickstart the official era with that hype. Too bad for them (and thank god for us) everything went the WRONG way!

 

 

im not so sure that was their line of thinking sis 

 

 

[Riverbank]

51 minutes ago, Burn said:

 

oh-

 

so this may be why she's been so quiet

Married after flop

 

[LustSpell]

I will say, it's crazy funny how HYPOCRITICAL Liddos are. They go entire release weeks excitedly dragging other artists (Beyoncé and Katy come to mind in recent times) for poor debuts.. Just to debut even lower and perform worse . Yet the instant this happens, they're silent, throwing accusations of bullying, or calling her in the main target of ATRL or something. No people just like laughing at clowns getting a reality check  Karma truly does get its kiss every time with them, huh? You'd think they'd learn by now.

 

Anyway, this'll likely be under 1.5m tomorrow. A wash, and maybe a top 40 debut at best.

Edited October 28 by LustSpell

[Bends]

Just now, Riverbank said:

Married after flop

 

Married IN flop. 

[superglowy]

2 minutes ago, LustSpell said:

I will say, it's crazy funny how HYPOCRITICAL Liddos are. They go entire release weeks excitedly dragging other artists (Beyoncé and Katy come to mind in recent times) for poor debuts.. Just to debut even lower and perform worse . Yet the instant this happens, they're silent, throwing accusations of bullying, or calling her in the main target of ATRL or something. No people just like laughing at clowns getting a reality check

 

Anyway, this'll likely be under 1.5m tomorrow. A wash, and maybe a top 40 debut at best.

If it outcharts G.U.Y Im taking the win.

[Bends]

4 minutes ago, LustSpell said:

Just to debut even lower and perform worse .

It is necessary to understand such a business term as return on investment.

 

You can release a flop lead single, or you can release a flop & panned movie with an irrevocable investment of $US 300M, the same flopped soundtrack and commercially unsuccessful lead single. To lose 5M dollars or 310M dollars... It hits different.

 

This is a huge bottomless pit, from which you want to move away and not look in this direction, as from a car accident. You just don't want to turn your head this way.

Edited October 28 by Bends

[BrokenMachine]

32 minutes ago, GentleDance said:

oh they're spiralling 

 

 

 

So it's suddenly his fault? That's not very feminist of them to assume Gaga is not in charge 

[FlyOnTheWall]

38 minutes ago, GentleDance said:

oh they're spiralling 

 

 

 

This is insanity

[arctic-turner]

26 minutes ago, LustSpell said:

I will say, it's crazy funny how HYPOCRITICAL Liddos are. They go entire release weeks excitedly dragging other artists (Beyoncé and Katy come to mind in recent times) for poor debuts.. Just to debut even lower and perform worse . Yet the instant this happens, they're silent, throwing accusations of bullying, or calling her in the main target of ATRL or something. No people just like laughing at clowns getting a reality check  Karma truly does get its kiss every time with them, huh? You'd think they'd learn by now.

 

Anyway, this'll likely be under 1.5m tomorrow. A wash, and maybe a top 40 debut at best.

It's funny they were dragging Beyoncé fans for saying that CC was flopping because of lack of promo meanwhile it was the first excuse they pulled out

[selfieclownt]

1 hour ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

I already said back during Chromatica era how this will be her last pop album (at least in a while) because she doesn't feel like she wanted to make it, but was rather forced by vocal minority stans. My dad and my aunt who never cared about Gaga became such huge fans after Shallow, it opened up a new audience for Gaga but she went back to ARTPOP music that is only talked about in one internet corner niche.

 

But then Bloody Mary went viral on Tiktok and Gaga instead of working back on her mature sound and music, was convinced yet again to make darkpop gay music that people who stream Die With a Smile and Shallow don't f**k with  her career in late 2010s/early 2020s would've become that of 90s Celine Dion, Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey because mainstream sound is lacking big vocal, serious adult contemporary music. Leave this Chromatica and Disease stuff to Kim Petras and these other girls, but now it's hopefully not too late for Gaga to release adult contemporary album as LG8 after LG7 campaign era is over.

 

 

I hope she can find a balance between both if that's what she wants. She seemed genuinely excited about previewing music from the album in Paris but is it really better that her fiancé had to convince her to make pop music this time around instead of her label and bloodpop

[gatito]

1 hour ago, GentleDance said:

oh they're spiralling 

 

 

 

honestly i hope gaga sees this and decides to can the entire thing just to spite her deranged stans

[CBC]

1 hour ago, Burn said:

 

oh-

 

so this may be why she's been so quiet

Do you think that given the allegations he'll divorce her if she continues to flop? 

 

anyway feeling a cute 2m tomorrow, stable 

[ronelmaano13]

This is looking like Gaga's 4th flop this year. I hope she autoplays this one because people seem to like the song. 

Edited October 28 by ronelmaano13

[Acuminatus]

This thread is so hilarious, I am running out of laugh reactions. 
 

Releasing the MV should save the weekly streams of this song, but it is not looking good. At least it should rise a bit tomorrow!

 

Of course when Gaga finally releases a pop lead single that I enjoy it reaches unprecedented levels of floppery. At least Liddos can be happy that they enjoy the song. Unless they switched up on that because it is flopping 

Edited October 28 by Acuminatus

[znake]

[Peroxide]

Like. Okay…

 

I get it's a ki watching some of the chart hungry monsters spontaneously combust over the falling Spotify numbers but some of you girls are being weird…

 

"Thank God she's flopping"… like, why do you girls want her to fail so badly?
 

Katy's floppage felt like poetic justice for her working with an abuser… but Gaga? Why do so many of you want to watch her crash and burn?

 

Edited October 28 by Peroxide

[wastedpotential]

Just got out of a meeting and popped into the Live AM charts on a whim to see that this has risen all the way from #88 to #95! Lady GaGa, I am so proud of you! I'm so honored to watch you climb these charts and then gracefully descend them to make way for newer artists. You're a charitable queen, Lady GaGa, making sure your song leaves the top 100 so other acts have a chance in the spotlight! I wish other acts were as gracious and generous as you! The Liddos are incredibly lucky to have a role model like you! 

 

Edited October 28 by wastedpotential

[Shelter]

As a Bey fan, seeing the monsters crying about no promo or a video after just days is hilarious to me. They now see the struggle, try years! 

[Digitalism]

2 hours ago, greeneyedsoul said:

If the video is indeed coming out on Halloween, that will give a song a good enough boost to debut in the top 20.

TBH this could become a hit with a good music video. But let's be real here she hasn't released a good video in a decade 

[gimmelaugh]

2 hours ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

I already said back during Chromatica era how this will be her last pop album (at least in a while) because she doesn't feel like she wanted to make it, but was rather forced by vocal minority stans. My dad and my aunt who never cared about Gaga became such huge fans after Shallow, it opened up a new audience for Gaga but she went back to ARTPOP music that is only talked about in one internet corner niche.

 

But then Bloody Mary went viral on Tiktok and Gaga instead of working back on her mature sound and music, was convinced yet again to make darkpop gay music that people who stream Die With a Smile and Shallow don't f**k with  her career in late 2010s/early 2020s would've become that of 90s Celine Dion, Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey because mainstream sound is lacking big vocal, serious adult contemporary music. Leave this Chromatica and Disease stuff to Kim Petras and these other girls, but now it's hopefully not too late for Gaga to release adult contemporary album as LG8 after LG7 campaign era is over.

 

 

I agree with this. Shallow, ASIB and to some extent HOG exposed her to new audiences and people who didn't care about her before suddenly became her casual fans and started looking at her differently. If Gaga wants to go back to pop then she definitely should, I like Disease BUT it does feel a little bit rehashed to me. If she wants to be commercially successful, she should lean into adult contemporary, which I thought she'd do when she released DWAS which, again, turned out to be a success for her. People like this more mature and less rebelious Gaga. Maybe she could try to do some power ballads and add some drama into them to appear fresh but keep that theatricality that makes Gaga Gaga.

 

The key to success is constant transformation and reinvention after all. This is how Madonna managed to reach new career heights even after 10, 15 or 20 years. 

[Blue Monday]

Just want to reiterate yet again how rich this is when you consider the mass downvoting and crying by Monsters when people (myself included) pointed out that her 100 Million Monthly listeners were indicative of absolutely nothing; they told us how she was coming to smash with this lead single, only for her to crash and burn worse than a previously leaked song that was released during a time where there were less users on Spotify than there is now. Monsters spent weeks lavishing in Katy's failure only for their fave to crash and burn more spectacularly, because of the unrealistic expectations they set for their fave based on delusions of grandeur. 
 

Edited October 28 by Blue Monday

[Illuminati]

1 hour ago, LustSpell said:

I will say, it's crazy funny how HYPOCRITICAL Liddos are. They go entire release weeks excitedly dragging other artists (Beyoncé and Katy come to mind in recent times) for poor debuts.. Just to debut even lower and perform worse . Yet the instant this happens, they're silent, throwing accusations of bullying, or calling her in the main target of ATRL or something. No people just like laughing at clowns getting a reality check  Karma truly does get its kiss every time with them, huh? You'd think they'd learn by now.

 

Anyway, this'll likely be under 1.5m tomorrow. A wash, and maybe a top 40 debut at best.

It swings back and forth.

 

 

You think nobody was dragging Gaga during the Joanne or Chromatica release? You guys act like you just joined the discourse even though the accounts are close to decade old at this point. A fanbase gets humbled, then they get back at those that were the loudest. Then they feel like they earned the right to do the same next album cycle.

 

Katycats have rightfully earned the ridicule, no less than liddos have from your point of view. Do you think NOW everyone will behave rationally and there won't be any dupes setting fanbases up?

[By the Water]

1 hour ago, LustSpell said:

I will say, it's crazy funny how HYPOCRITICAL Liddos are. They go entire release weeks excitedly dragging other artists (Beyoncé and Katy come to mind in recent times) for poor debuts.. Just to debut even lower and perform worse . Yet the instant this happens, they're silent, throwing accusations of bullying, or calling her in the main target of ATRL or something. No people just like laughing at clowns getting a reality check  Karma truly does get its kiss every time with them, huh? You'd think they'd learn by now.

 

Anyway, this'll likely be under 1.5m tomorrow. A wash, and maybe a top 40 debut at best.

And you just know next time Gaga is associated to anything successful they'll let all the bitterness out and get all cocky again 

[Moloko Plus]

2 hours ago, Bends said:

It is necessary to understand such a business term as return on investment.

 

You can release a flop lead single, or you can release a flop & panned movie with an irrevocable investment of $US 300M, the same flopped soundtrack and commercially unsuccessful lead single. To lose 5M dollars or 310M dollars... It hits different.

 

This is a huge bottomless pit, from which you want to move away and not look in this direction, as from a car accident. You just don't want to turn your head this way.

Do you think Gaga personally funded the film herself? Lmao

[Massive_Teardrop]

32 minutes ago, Blue Monday said:

a previously leaked song that was released during a time where there were less users on Spotify than there is now.

Not you talking about Woman's world release as if it was a decade ago and not July. 

 

Anyway, this song kinda sucks and is performing accordingly.