charts discussion Lady Gaga - Disease | Day 16: #111 Global (-29), 1.5M (-240K)

[wastedpotential]

1 minute ago, Gottasadae said:

faster than >>

 

ddd I need to get my hands on the GaGa discography chartmasters edit of this gif 

[CBC]

5 minutes ago, DougAF said:

 

 

Curious to know what Morocco's streaming numbers look like

 

Are they stanning @thinking?  

oomf is stanning. he said the numbers are low because of DWAS and people watching the movie during the weekend

[Doctor Dick]

2 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

I- 

 

Is Charli XCX the horse you really want to attach your wagon to? 

 

We had that whole discussion yesterday about Taylor and GaGa not being peers, are you willing to stake the claim that GaGa's peer isn't Katy Perry, but rather a girl who's never managed to collect a Platinum album? Is that where we are? 

I'm taking about who they're reaching currently. Not their overall career. She's more comparable to Charli in her demo right now and that demo is being served but it's not going outside of that. It still means she can have decent success tho if she provides a good album for the gays but if she wants bigger numbers she needs to do something for the GP or at least go viral with this song. 

[Assassin]

The biggest percentage decrease in both US and Global 

 

[Chris]

The way that Gaga's last #1 solo hit (which Monsters love to emphasize) was back in 2011 with Born This Way.

 

Meanwhile, Beyonce had Break My Soul and Texas Hold 'Em.

 

[wastedpotential]

5 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

I'm taking about who they're reaching currently. Not their overall career. She's more comparable to Charli in her demo right now and that demo is being served but it's not going outside of that. It still means she can have decent success tho if she provides a good album for the gays but if she wants bigger numbers she needs to do something for the GP or at least go viral with this song. 

So... you're admitting that your supposed MPG fave's majorly hyped lead single, coming off one of her biggest hits in years (barring the... speed bumps) is actually no different from the releases from the club circuit queens who are more likely to miss the Bubbling Under chart entirely than to hit the actual Hot 100? I'd say that's a bit of an undersell of GaGa's position, and that you were better off comparing her to Katy. 

 

Or are you claiming that LG7 is about to turn into BRAT and have a huge cultural moment, in which case I'd call you severely delulu and in desperate need of some time in the sun because that seems like an addled state caused by a vitamin D deficiency. 

 

Edited October 27 by wastedpotential

[Assassin]

25 minutes ago, halcyonday said:

 

Brazilian stan twitter is so creative. Thank god they got Twitter back in time of Disease.

The "BRUNO!!!" is killing me.

Edited October 27 by Assassin

[Assassin]

13 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

I was told she would either be OUT from the beginning or serve OUT on its second day but I guess not. 

 

This is performing similarly to Charli XCX's recent songs and I think the main reason behind this is she has strong support from the gays but not much else. Gaga is beloved in the LGBTQ+ community, moreso than many other pop acts and therefore she can chart like she does in the first couple of days. She's still just below the Top 20 so that's a plus. She didn't serve #12-OUT or OUT on second day like certain others. Right now, Gaga's boat mate is Charli because Charli also mainly has support from purely the gay stans and not much from the GP. The only difference here is that Charli's songs only perform like that when she's collaborating with other acts whereas Gaga does it solo so it is promising for Gaga's album which could have a good first week in line with BRAT even without the reviews. But if she wants to smash she has to have the GP onboard. This song can be saved with a music video or if it goes viral because it absolutely needs the support from the GP. Liddos proved they can make her debut high which is always a good thing but they can't carry this themselves. 

Need to add "only the gays are streaming" to the excuse wheel.

 

I am convinced this is a set up account because ain't no way a Liddo would say Gaga and Charli are comparable. 

[Doctor Dick]

7 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

So... you're admitting that your supposed MPG fave's majorly hyped lead single, coming off one of her biggest hits in years (barring the... speed bumps) is actually no different from the releases from the club circuit queens who are more likely to miss the Bubbling Under chart entirely than to hit the actual Hot 100? I'd say that's a bit of an undersell of GaGa's position, and that you were better off comparing her to Katy. 

No, I'm saying she's catering to the gays like Charli XCX. And it's giving her good results. The ones you're referring to aren't on Charli or Gaga's level of relevance. Katy is a complete flop right now who was OUT of the chart on day two. Gaga's is just outside of the Top 20 which is giving similarities to what Charli is doing and from the appreciation of Disease from the gays and the way they also react to Charli's music is pretty similar as are the first two days of a new release. You don't have to perform 1:1 but it's clear she's catering to that demo right now and we see it in the numbers. I also don't understand your investment in this. She's not your fave and it's not about your fave either. 

[By the Water]

19 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

ddd I need to get my hands on the GaGa discography chartmasters edit of this gif 

You mean this?

 

[ScorpiosGroove]

this pic feels like what being a liddo in october must've felt like 

 

[wastedpotential]

5 minutes ago, By the Water said:

You mean this?

 

Yes, bless

 

 

 

[Charmed Life]

21 minutes ago, Assassin said:

Brazilian stan twitter is so creative. Thank god they got Twitter back in time of Disease.

The "BRUNO!!!" is killing me.

 

 

[CBC]

brasil te amo

[wastedpotential]

6 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

No, I'm saying she's catering to the gays like Charli XCX. And it's giving her good results. The ones you're referring to aren't on Charli or Gaga's level of relevance. Katy is a complete flop right now who was OUT of the chart on day two. Gaga's is just outside of the Top 20 which is giving similarities to what Charli is doing and from the appreciation of Disease from the gays and the way they also react to Charli's music is pretty similar as are the first two days of a new release. You don't have to perform 1:1 but it's clear she's catering to that demo right now and we see it in the numbers. I also don't understand your investment in this. She's not your fave and it's not about your fave either. 

Sister, I promise you that GaGa being at #23 on day two and Charli being in that range during whatever period you're talking about (her only song in the top 50 is currently sitting at 45) were very different phenomena, because Charli was peaking from a long and slow ascent, whereas GaGa is merely stopping by on her way off the charts. We'll readdress this in a week when Disease is sitting in the 180s. I also fear you're confused about the demos each girl is catering to, as Charli is serving the club girls and gays and just got lucky with a lighting strike of mass appeal, whereas GaGa is serving no one and is not making music for any receptive audience outside of her fanbase. The club girls and gays are about to reject this one pretty hard, sister, I promise you. 

 

[manuelalex9810]

I remember them saying in the J:FAD and Harlequin threads "wait for LG7" "Let's just wait for LG7 lead single" and

now they're nowhere to be found here. 

 

also Brazilians calling Lady Ga Ga's new single, Candisease because it rhymes with candidiasis (yeast infection). 

[Assassin]

10 minutes ago, Charmed Life said:

 

 

the actual video also has the lady yelling "bruno" over and over. I am deceased.

 

[sickboy]

What a shitty month for her, ain't it? Started with the biggest bomb of the year in cinema, then released an album that was a major fiasco and literally nobody listened to or cared about and now the worst performing lead single of her career... all of this in 20 days  I just know that her team's expectations for the movie was completely the opposite and expected her to dominate the last half of the year, so that's why the album in February (the same month as Grammy and Oscar).

 

Genuinely curious to know who she and Interscope will call to make a duet for her album.

[BrokenMachine]

The endless meltdowns. This is not bad at all yet, but some monsters have very fragile egos and OGHs jump so easy at them 

[BrokenMachine]

1 hour ago, Doctor Dick said:

She's still just below the Top 20 so that's a plus. She didn't serve #12-OUT or OUT on second day like certain others

So 'she's not OUT yet' is the only thing you can cling to ?

Edited October 27 by BrokenMachine

[The Music Industry]

1 hour ago, Doctor Dick said:

I was told she would either be OUT from the beginning or serve OUT on its second day but I guess not. 

 

This is performing similarly to Charli XCX's recent songs and I think the main reason behind this is she has strong support from the gays but not much else. Gaga is beloved in the LGBTQ+ community, moreso than many other pop acts and therefore she can chart like she does in the first couple of days. She's still just below the Top 20 so that's a plus. She didn't serve #12-OUT or OUT on second day like certain others. Right now, Gaga's boat mate is Charli because Charli also mainly has support from purely the gay stans and not much from the GP. The only difference here is that Charli's songs only perform like that when she's collaborating with other acts whereas Gaga does it solo so it is promising for Gaga's album which could have a good first week in line with BRAT even without the reviews. But if she wants to smash she has to have the GP onboard. This song can be saved with a music video or if it goes viral because it absolutely needs the support from the GP. Liddos proved they can make her debut high which is always a good thing but they can't carry this themselves. 

Literally yesterday you were on a crusade to prove Taylor and Gaga are peers/in the same league and here you are today saying it's only fair to compare Gaga to the likes of Charli XCX

[Doctor Dick]

13 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Sister, I promise you that GaGa being at #23 on day two and Charli being in that range during whatever period you're talking about (her only song in the top 50 is currently sitting at 45) were very different phenomena, because Charli was peaking from a long and slow ascent, whereas GaGa is merely stopping by on her way off the charts. We'll readdress this in a week when Disease is sitting in the 180s. I also fear you're confused about the demos each girl is catering to, as Charli is serving the club girls and gays and just got lucky with a lighting strike of mass appeal, whereas GaGa is serving no one and is not making music for any receptive audience outside of her fanbase. The club girls and gays are about to reject this one pretty hard, sister, I promise you. 

 

That's how you analyse things, step by step. This song performed on par with Beyoncé yesterday and is performing similar to Charli now. You're just jumping to conclusions but regardless how it does commercially it's a well-reviewed song and the fanbase loves it. It's not shade but you're spending x amount of time hating on someone that isn't even your fave in a topic that doesn't even mention your fave. Your investment in this is embarrassing. 

[Doctor Dick]

1 minute ago, The Music Industry said:

Literally yesterday you were on a crusade to prove Taylor and Gaga are peers/in the same league and here you are today saying it's only fair to compare Gaga to the likes of Charli XCX

No. I said Taylor and Gaga were peers as they both are 2010s pop stars. 

 

2 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said:

So 'she's not OUT yet' is the only thing you can cling to ?

No, I'm very happy she's #23. The OGHs were clinging onto her not charting at all and her not serving OUT clearly has them bothered. 

[BrokenMachine]

4 hours ago, Assassin said:

LMAO, the Gaga base is really something. Don't wanna link in case it's against the rule but here is a comment I saw.

 

This reads exactly like the Radical Optimism thread. And I say this as a Dua stan 

[wastedpotential]

3 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

That's how you analyse things, step by step. This song performed on par with Beyoncé yesterday and is performing similar to Charli now. You're just jumping to conclusions but regardless how it does commercially it's a well-reviewed song and the fanbase loves it. It's not shade but you're spending x amount of time hating on someone that isn't even your fave in a topic that doesn't even mention your fave. Your investment in this is embarrassing. 

And do you know Who it'll perform like tomorroW? TaKe a guess as to what tyPe of name I'd say

 

And as for how I choose to spend my time, babe, it's the weekend and a universal thrashing is one of the most enjoyable parts of ATRL