charts discussion Lady Gaga - Disease | Day 16: #111 Global (-29), 1.5M (-240K)

[BrokenMachine]

8 minutes ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said:

I decided to take a sabbatical from this thread because I was told Gaga was smashing again but I checked the Global Charts today and she's only number 41? On Halloween with a supposed Halloween song? While she's number one on TTH? The Monsters are getting so cocky over this? 

I was told that as long as she is outstreaming artists whose names start with 'K' and end with 'aty Perry', she's smashing 

[skeeyee]

Let's keep it ON TOPIC 

current YT stats 

 

7 (-1) Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (Official Music Video)

4,090,701

 

17 (+7) Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (Live in Las Vegas)

1,647,173

 

56(-41) Lady Gaga - Disease (Official Music Video)

1,047,421

 

The stats of current Gaga songs, very ON topic 

 

 

[BrokenMachine]

2 minutes ago, skeeyee said:

17 (+7) Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (Live in Las Vegas)

1,647,173

 

56(-41) Lady Gaga - Disease (Official Music Video)

1,047,421

Not the LIVE performance outviewing it already 

[skeeyee]

1 minute ago, BrokenMachine said:

Not the LIVE performance outviewing it already 

I was surprised to see the disease video fall 41 spots on Halloween, seeing as kiddos have told me she's a visual artist? That's very interesting, but let me keep it locked and focused on the numbers so I don't get off topic  

[Beamon]

5 minutes ago, skeeyee said:

Let's keep it ON TOPIC 

current YT stats 

 

7 (-1) Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (Official Music Video)

4,090,701

 

17 (+7) Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (Live in Las Vegas)

1,647,173

 

56(-41) Lady Gaga - Disease (Official Music Video)

1,047,421

 

The stats of current Gaga songs, very ON topic 

 

 

Spotify 10.31

Disease - 2.6M 🦠

Cowboy Carter (2024, #1 'hit') - 1.3M
+ Renaissance (2022, #1 'hit') - 1M
= 2.3M, 43 tracks!!! 💀

[skeeyee]

3 minutes ago, Beamon said:

Spotify 10.31

Disease - 2.6M 🦠

Cowboy Carter (2024, #1 'hit') - 1.3M
+ Renaissance (2022, #1 'hit') - 1M
= 2.3M, 43 tracks!!! 💀

I'm SO confused as to why you are bringing up stats of beyonce albums in a lady gaga thread? Let's stay ON TOPIC

WE DONT WANT A WARNING POINT 

 

 

Moddos please I know yall are watching. Let's be fair and equal with out WPs 

[Shelter]

13 minutes ago, Beamon said:

Spotify 10.31

Disease - 2.6M 🦠

Cowboy Carter (2024, #1 'hit') - 1.3M
+ Renaissance (2022, #1 'hit') - 1M
= 2.3M, 43 tracks!!! 💀

 

 

Harlequin 435k 

Joker 97k 
Chromatica -734k 

Joanne 438k

Why no boost with her new era starting? We will see where Disease is when it's been out as long as Beyoncé's. 

[Sexyzinger]

 

LG7 still on life support omg 

[Doctor Dick]

Popularity rate means how LONG a user listens to a song, not how many listeners it has. It's the same for TikTok. Viral videos there go viral not for the amount of likes but based on if it's watched in full or replayed. Paris Hilton is a billionaire and released an album where she even bought the copies herself to inflate its first week sales. If money was able to put someone on top of TTH she would've easily done it but she didn't. I can't at these excuses when there's a clear reason why some songs are added and others aren't. Every time a song has a popularity rate after its first update of above 70% it gets pushed by Spotify and whenever a song gets below 70% they aren't.

 

These are just some examples of songs and their popularity rate before they were added to #1 on TTH:

 

Beyoncé - Texas Hold Em (77%)

Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather (80%)

Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (80%)

Rosé and Bruno Mars - Apt. (76%)

Lady Gaga - Disease (74%)

 

And songs that had below 70% on the day of their premiere:

 

Katy Perry - Woman's World (51%)

Jennifer Lopez - Can't Get Enough (48%)

Katy Perry - Lifetimes (68%)

Justin Timberlake - Selfish (63%)

 

I know "payola" is thrown around from stanbases that are fuming but it's always been about more than just money. You think Capitol wouldn't have thrown money on Spotify rather than a music video for Katy Perry if they knew that was the game? C'mon guys. Don't be stupid. 

 

[verthigo]

22 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

Popularity rate means how LONG a user listens to a song, not how many listeners it has. It's the same for TikTok. Viral videos there go viral not for the amount of likes but based on if it's watched in full or replayed. Paris Hilton is a billionaire and released an album where she even bought the copies herself to inflate its first week sales. If money was able to put someone on top of TTH she would've easily done it but she didn't. I can't at these excuses when there's a clear reason why some songs are added and others aren't. Every time a song has a popularity rate after its first update of above 70% it gets pushed by Spotify and whenever a song gets below 70% they aren't.

 

These are just some examples of songs and their popularity rate before they were added to #1 on TTH:

 

Beyoncé - Texas Hold Em (77%)

Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather (80%)

Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (80%)

Rosé and Bruno Mars - Apt. (76%)

Lady Gaga - Disease (74%)

 

And songs that had below 70% on the day of their premiere:

 

Katy Perry - Woman's World (51%)

Jennifer Lopez - Can't Get Enough (48%)

Katy Perry - Lifetimes (68%)

Justin Timberlake - Selfish (63%)

 

I know "payola" is thrown around from stanbases that are fuming but it's always been about more than just money. You think Capitol wouldn't have thrown money on Spotify rather than a music video for Katy Perry if they knew that was the game? C'mon guys. Don't be stupid. 

 

Thanks for this info king, didn't know ! It's at 81% right now 

Edited November 2 by verthigo

[patapon]

1 hour ago, skeeyee said:

Let's keep it ON TOPIC 

current YT stats 

 

7 (-1) Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (Official Music Video)

4,090,701

 

17 (+7) Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (Live in Las Vegas)

1,647,173

 

56(-41) Lady Gaga - Disease (Official Music Video)

1,047,421

 

The stats of current Gaga songs, very ON topic 

 

 

This is so tragic. She's really done

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

30 minutes ago, verthigo said:

It's at 81% right now 

Wait. 

 

81 has 8 in it.

 

8 = 5 + 3 = 1  + 4 + 3

 

1 + 4 + 3 = 143

 

Gaga is outstreaming Katy. Disease smash confirmed!

 

Edited November 2 by ithinkheknowsoutsold

[Broken]

3 hours ago, Charmed Life said:

Just did some digging, and it was "Feels" (2017) #1

https://www.officialcharts.com/songs/harrispharrellperrybig-sean-feels/

 

If we're talking solo, then it's "Chained to the Rhythm" (2017) #5

https://www.officialcharts.com/songs/katy-perry-ft-skip-marley-chained-to-the-rhythm/

 

FEAT. SKIP MARLEY

 

Her last solo top 10 hit in the US and UK is Roar (2013) .

[MatiRod]

1 hour ago, Doctor Dick said:

Popularity rate means how LONG a user listens to a song, not how many listeners it has. It's the same for TikTok. Viral videos there go viral not for the amount of likes but based on if it's watched in full or replayed. Paris Hilton is a billionaire and released an album where she even bought the copies herself to inflate its first week sales. If money was able to put someone on top of TTH she would've easily done it but she didn't. I can't at these excuses when there's a clear reason why some songs are added and others aren't. Every time a song has a popularity rate after its first update of above 70% it gets pushed by Spotify and whenever a song gets below 70% they aren't.

 

These are just some examples of songs and their popularity rate before they were added to #1 on TTH:

 

Beyoncé - Texas Hold Em (77%)

Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather (80%)

Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (80%)

Rosé and Bruno Mars - Apt. (76%)

Lady Gaga - Disease (74%)

 

And songs that had below 70% on the day of their premiere:

 

Katy Perry - Woman's World (51%)

Jennifer Lopez - Can't Get Enough (48%)

Katy Perry - Lifetimes (68%)

Justin Timberlake - Selfish (63%)

 

I know "payola" is thrown around from stanbases that are fuming but it's always been about more than just money. You think Capitol wouldn't have thrown money on Spotify rather than a music video for Katy Perry if they knew that was the game? C'mon guys. Don't be stupid. 

 

As far as I'm aware there is no such thing as Spotify payola

 

It's more that the major labels literally own a chunk of Spotify so they have sway when it comes to playlisting

[OrgVisual]

24 minutes ago, MatiRod said:

As far as I'm aware there is no such thing as Spotify payola

 

It's more that the major labels literally own a chunk of Spotify so they have sway when it comes to playlisting

How is that any different than payola? 

[istan4badgalriri]

1 hour ago, Doctor Dick said:

Popularity rate means how LONG a user listens to a song, not how many listeners it has. It's the same for TikTok. Viral videos there go viral not for the amount of likes but based on if it's watched in full or replayed. Paris Hilton is a billionaire and released an album where she even bought the copies herself to inflate its first week sales. If money was able to put someone on top of TTH she would've easily done it but she didn't. I can't at these excuses when there's a clear reason why some songs are added and others aren't. Every time a song has a popularity rate after its first update of above 70% it gets pushed by Spotify and whenever a song gets below 70% they aren't.

 

These are just some examples of songs and their popularity rate before they were added to #1 on TTH:

 

Beyoncé - Texas Hold Em (77%)

Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather (80%)

Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile (80%)

Rosé and Bruno Mars - Apt. (76%)

Lady Gaga - Disease (74%)

 

And songs that had below 70% on the day of their premiere:

 

Katy Perry - Woman's World (51%)

Jennifer Lopez - Can't Get Enough (48%)

Katy Perry - Lifetimes (68%)

Justin Timberlake - Selfish (63%)

 

I know "payola" is thrown around from stanbases that are fuming but it's always been about more than just money. You think Capitol wouldn't have thrown money on Spotify rather than a music video for Katy Perry if they knew that was the game? C'mon guys. Don't be stupid. 

 

😭 you don't even believe this… there have been too many cases of flop songs getting a #1 spot on TTH for you to be thinking it's not the labels' doing

bragging about a TTH placement like it's an actual stat is crazy 

[Rush]

 

[Doctor Dick]

10 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said:

😭 you don't even believe this… there have been too many cases of flop songs getting a #1 spot on TTH for you to be thinking it's not the labels' doing

bragging about a TTH placement like it's an actual stat is crazy 

Name me one song that went #1 on TTH after it premiered that flopped. And it's not about flopping, it's about how well-received a song is. Two different things. A song can flop after being on TTH because not enough people click on it and listen to it or click on it but don't spend enough time or skip it which makes the song lose the TTH placement. 

 

But show me one instance where a song with an initial -70 has been picked up by TTH? You can't because there is none. Songs that are added to the playlist all have above 70 when they do. I'm not saying it's the only factor but it's definitely not payola because then any artist could've done it. Addison Rae does not have more money than Katy Perry lmfao. 

Edited November 2 by Doctor Dick

[kimberly]

US Apple Music

#148 (-1) Disease

 

[CameraFlashes]

1 hour ago, Broken said:

FEAT. SKIP MARLEY

 

Her last solo top 10 hit in the US and UK is Roar (2013) .

is Skip Marley on the same boat with Bruno/BLACKPINK/Bradley 

[CameraFlashes]

imagine describing Deceased as'well received' which fell off 50% for the first two days 

[Blairbear]

Edit: Decided to visit this thread for the first time and jesus, some of you need to go outside and spend time with friends/ family or at least do some self-care because a song is not worth the dramatics, the arguing, and the meltdowns. No one outside of pop music forums give a **** about this kind of stuff. And the level of trolling by OGHs in this threat is so bad that surely it's an insult to their own intelligence. With the level of fighting, insults, and bullying, I have no idea why this thread has not been locked. I've seen threads with less nastiness being locked.

 

OT: The music video now has 6.5 million views, I'm hoping it'll reach 7 million soon 

 

 

Edited November 2 by Blairbear

[folkloreking]

Back after a WP because y'all take everything seriously even though I've seen worse in this same thread.

 

OT: #1 on TTH? Organic smash oh Godga!!! 

 

 

[MatiRod]

 

1 hour ago, OrgVisual said:

How is that any different than payola? 

It's public knowledge and blatantly obvious if you look at who gets playlisted, whereas payola was behind the scenes and shady and illegal. 

 

The problem is the amount of music that's out there now. There is too much choice. So Spotify relies on existing relationships with labels to narrow down the choice of tracks to playlist. Every day almost 100,000 songs are uploaded to Spotify. If you're a Spotify editor looking to add tracks to your playlist in a certain genre, you're contending with literally thousands of new songs every single week being pitched via Spotify for Artists (which anyone can do). There is just no way to physically listen to every single song. Labels act as an initial funnel through which Spotify knows it's getting a certain level of quality (just like in terms of the production and mastering and such) and usually a certain level of relevance (or at least potential relevance since they're people already plugged into the industry). 

 

Is it fair? Maybe not. Is it good news for independent artists trying on their own? No. But it's an industry not a charity. Not to be shady. But it was this to the 1000x level just 10 years ago when you needed to be on TV and radio to attain any level of success. At least now indie artists can go viral on TikTok and there's tons of successful artists who tour and stuff without ever getting major playlist action. It's a more even playing field nowadays. Playlisting is just one of the last gatekeeping funnels that exist.

 

But as we're seeing with this song, no shade, it's not even that impactful anymore. Radio/autoplay is much more important lol.

Edited November 2 by MatiRod

[Tistotal]

How big should be the boost we can expect for tomorrow's update? since it's now #1 in TTH and its playlisting reach increased to 148M (+8M since yesterday).

 

Just to compare, last TTH cover was APT and it was doing 11.25M, can we expect at least a half of it?