discussion Songs that contain slurs: your thoughts?

[Vixen Eyes]

So I'm revisiting Korn's debut album and this song is on it. I've read before that this song was written because when lead singer Jonathan Davis was in high school, he was being called the F slur for being really into the New Wave aesthetic (wearing eyeliner, etc).

Now my question is, do you think songs like this could be done without the use of the slur? And also are there any other songs that use a slur in this connotation?

 

 

 

[Gelato]

I don't think it's acceptable. Lizzo and Beyonce both using the same ableist slur in songs within a few months of each other was completely bewildering. And in Beyonce's case there wasn't even an apology 

Edited October 15 by Gelato

[Space Cowboy]

 

[glitch]

I don't think it's particularly artistic and it often feels like a cheap way of stirring up discourse around your music. You can talk about discrimination and oppression without using offensive language.

 

This obviously doesn't apply to people using slurs which have been reclaimed by their particular demographic.

[suburbannature]

This is JLo's time to shine 

[Reginald]

9 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

I -- 

[Achilles.]

Hate when songs use the n word. Especially by big name artists and crossover acts. Like why are you marketing music to mainstream audiences that contains racist slurs that half of said mainstream audience cannot say but will inevitably end up accidentally repeating while singing along?

[Illuminati]

25 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

 

Ableist classic

[RussianRoulette]

Words are meaningless. They can go ahead and call me a british 🚬 all they want.

[byzantium]

There is no need for anyone to really use slurs unless you are trying to convey a prejudicial message.  
 

That said, I think it would be incredibly homophobic for Taylor to not include the homophobic version of Picture to Burn on the Debut TV.  

[lillavend3r]

1 hour ago, suburbannature said:

This is JLo's time to shine 

She had Ja Rule's blessing 

[UrMom]

I feel like the divas can get free pass when it comes to saying phæguettes

 

 

[Vixen Eyes]

2 hours ago, Achilles. said:

Hate when songs use the n word. Especially by big name artists and crossover acts. Like why are you marketing music to mainstream audiences that contains racist slurs that half of said mainstream audience cannot say but will inevitably end up accidentally repeating while singing along?

Whenever I song along to one of those songs, I always substitute it with "mister"

It's kinda awkward but it's what I felt fits best lol

[Vixen Eyes]

56 minutes ago, UrMom said:

I feel like the divas can get free pass when it comes to saying phæguettes

 

 

Oh Kesha is practically near the top of the list lol if she really wanted to, most of her fan base (who are phaguettes) would allow her to use it lol

[nsst]

Honestly, as a non-native speaker, it just doesn't hit me the same. I think a lot of the reactions to slurs in songs are super tied to cultural context idk