Slap Posted October 13 Posted October 13 Honestly as a big fan of M.I.A's work until after 2016, I am kind of lost as to what happened to her. She was (or at least seemed at the time to be) one of thee edgiest, most socially subversive artists who wrote music that was and still remains a biting and incisive commentary on the modern world. I just fail to see how the same woman who wrote and made the music videos for "Borders", "Bad Girls", "XXXO", "Finally", "10 Dollar" and "Paper Planes" could end up marrying a billionaire, becoming a rich born again Christian divorcee who posts racist tweets and thinks 5G and vaccines are killing us - aka the stereotype of an out of touch wealthy white suburban mom. So what do you think happened? Part of me personally thinks, that perhaps she may have shown signs of psychosis/mania in the past but had a full break from reality when she became a born again Christian. She talked about having a vision where she saw Jesus. In hindsight so much of her music and her visuals heavily focused on conspiracies (some true), so in many ways she's always been a bit like this. But I think that as we have seen with other musicians like Kanye it is very easy to go undiagnosed/unsupported/untreated if you are wealthy and successful because people just think you're pushing boundaries and being a visionary. Before you reply I just want to say that I really want to have this discussion with compassion and not judgement, I don't want to mock her mental health. As somebody who has loved ones in my life that experience mania/psychosis I do think it's important that we spot the signs and help people get support that protects and respects their dignity and autonomy. Obviously people who experience mania/psychosis are often incredibly creative and can think differently which can lead to incredible artistic works that break boundaries, so it's not all black and white. So anyway - that's my theory but what do you think? Was she like this all along and we just didn't see it? Or did something about M.I.A significantly change over the past few years? 5
Sheep Posted October 13 Posted October 13 (edited) There is a time for compassion and rationality but those things can be exhausted. Just today there was a thread posted about her racist hate speech. Kanye was formerly my #1 and still has more scrobbles from me than any pop act but I would never pretend he deserves to be handled lightly in discussions about his downfall because even small children have the emotional and intellectual capacity to immediately understand why hate speech is so wrong. OT: People who feel powerless are pushed into political extremism. She's had a rough life. Edited October 13 by Sheep 3 1
Femalien Posted October 13 Posted October 13 shes still subversive, she's subverting your image of her and moreover subverting y'alls values. the energy is still there people just can't handle it when their values are in the crosshairs of her all-seeing third eye 11
Slap Posted October 13 Author Posted October 13 8 minutes ago, Sheep said: There is a time for compassion and rationality but those things can be exhausted. Just today there was a thread posted about her racist hate speech. Kanye was formerly my #1 and still has more scrobbles from me than any pop act but I would never pretend he deserves to be handled lightly in discussions about his downfall because even small children have the emotional and intellectual capacity to immediately understand why hate speech is so wrong. OT: People who feel powerless are pushed into political extremism. She's had a rough life. Oh I 100 per cent agree with not excusing her behavior I just wanted to avoid people mocking her mental health like they do with other people on this forum. I am genuinely shocked and disgusted at the way she acts these days, she's a joke and a hypocrite especially now that she has her economic privilege secured. 1
secretgarden Posted October 13 Posted October 13 (edited) Is it really that surprising what happened to her? Same thing happened to Kanye & Grimes. Anyone can fall victim to alt right propaganda. Especially someone who already bought into fringe conspiracy theories & somewhat based their entire musical identity around it. Seems like a natural progression to me. Edited October 13 by secretgarden 1
Rev8 Posted October 13 Posted October 13 They say money changes you.. but also, she has gotten older ..and that gets to you in some way I mean..not every older person exhibits the same negative notions or w/e ..but they tend to go out of touch ffs how do u endorse Donald Trump, with the message that you have in your music career 1
Bosque Posted October 13 Posted October 13 She's always been like this, she just used to have better PR 1
shookspeare Posted October 13 Posted October 13 it's performance art and the real follow up to Matangi is coming in 2029
GentleDance Posted October 13 Posted October 13 It's the wellness to QAnon/facism/alt-right pipeline I fear
itshyolee Posted October 13 Posted October 13 19 minutes ago, Slap said: So what do you think happened? Part of me personally thinks, that perhaps she may have shown signs of psychosis/mania in the past but had a full break from reality when she became a born again Christian. She talked about having a vision where she saw Jesus. In hindsight so much of her music and her visuals heavily focused on conspiracies (some true), so in many ways she's always been a bit like this. But I think that as we have seen with other musicians like Kanye it is very easy to go undiagnosed/unsupported/untreated if you are wealthy and successful because people just think you're pushing boundaries and being a visionary. I agree with you and share the same thoughts. It seems like the creative and very "different" individuals in the industry tend to suffer from some kind of mental illness. I think it was a lot easier for them to mask/hide these illnesses when they were younger but began to really struggle with it as they got older. 2
Digitalism Posted October 13 Posted October 13 She was the original Grimes Marry a billionaire and went even crazier.
Stardom Posted October 13 Posted October 13 The has-been FLOP to far-right racist pipeline strikes again
Mr.X Posted October 13 Posted October 13 12 minutes ago, NewStanner said: Can somebody tell me what is she even attempting to do/prove in this gif? I don't get it she's trying to prove her new clothing line blocks out radiation or something like that 1
Abracadabra Posted October 14 Posted October 14 I think it probably goes back to how years ago she was prevented from talking in the media about the Sri Lankan war and genocide and according to her there have been instances in her career where she has been suppressed due to speaking on those topics, so that probably led her into losing faith in the "establishment" which made her vulnerable to conspiracies and indoctrination. It is a shame because she has been such a great artist. 2 2
shookspeare Posted October 14 Posted October 14 55 minutes ago, NewStanner said: Can somebody tell me what is she even attempting to do/prove in this gif? I don't get it you mean you haven't bought your $200 protection poncho to shield yourself from Wifi and 5G? get into it 2
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