DougAF Posted October 9 Posted October 9 9 hours ago, Burn said: oh please Michael was clearly not gay. there's no indication of him ever being interested in men but plenty of stories (from the people that actually knew him) about his love for 'fish', as he called it. It's almost like the only proof we needed was the fact that he "dated" all these gorgeous women and then settled with… It's like choosing a mediocre looking gas station clerk over Glen Powell 1
Raiden Posted October 9 Posted October 9 11 hours ago, Space Cowboy said: Reveal hidden contents Oprah clocked "her daughter completed the memoir" You mean her money hungry daughter filled in the blanks? Cuz I don't believe this grift **** (not that the story in and of itself is not believable but because there's no evidence of Lisa Marie ever said anything of this sort when she was alive. Dead people's memoirs seem to be in fashion now — I say that belongs in the fiction section since dead people can't say anything last time I checked 1
kishi Posted October 9 Posted October 9 10 hours ago, Vixen Eyes said: As horrible of a time AIDS was in the US and UK, I don't think it was actually worldwide. I only ever hear it be referred to as an epidemic. Africa, Asia and Latin America will disagree with you. Still an issue today. 1 1
dumbsparce Posted October 9 Posted October 9 To me he seemed like an asexual man. Pedo allegations aside, I can't imagine him ever being affectionate with adults. Women or men. And no shade, but who tf would want to do stuff to him looking like that.
kayliah Posted October 9 Posted October 9 2 hours ago, Damien M said: Michael was obviously closeted and mentally stuck at a certain age. Yep i agree i wouldnt talk like that at 35 . And i had my first sexual experience with an older man at 17 bar the sexual molestation i suffered as a young teen.
fromily Posted October 9 Posted October 9 10 hours ago, Vixen Eyes said: As horrible of a time AIDS was in the US and UK, I don't think it was actually worldwide. I only ever hear it be referred to as an epidemic. This whole thing about mj's virginity is weird af (as is p much everything to do with mj) but I just wanted to correct this comment regarding HIV/AIDS. Although it is usually referred to as an epidemic, it is 100% an ongoing global issue that has killed tens of millions over the last 40+ years. It's just that most of those deaths (and most HIV infections) occurred and continue to occur in Africa, specifically sub-Saharan Africa. As such, it is no longer considered an urgent matter by the international community. Awful but true. Some sources: https://ourworldindata.org/hiv-aids, https://www.blackhistorymonth.org.uk/article/section/real-stories/the-history-of-aids-in-africa/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_HIV/AIDS 1
Gesamtkunstwerk Posted October 9 Posted October 9 12 hours ago, Space Cowboy said: And Rowe admitted that her children with Michael were conceived via artificial insemination, so they probably didn't even had sex. To conclude that MJs children weren't conceived au naturel by MJ and Debbie is like putting 2+2 together
Space Cowboy Posted October 9 Author Posted October 9 21 minutes ago, Gesamtkunstwerk said: To conclude that MJs children weren't conceived au naturel by MJ and Debbie is like putting 2+2 together Yeah he definetely isn't even the biological father of his children. Those children are not mixed, they are straight up white.
ICLDXU4HS Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) Whatever he told her should be taken with several grains of salt since he obviously used her for PR. 13 hours ago, Space Cowboy said: Tbh Michael was clearly a closeted gay man (aside from being a pedo) I doubt he was gay. With all the **** he was bold enough to do, I don't see what would have held him back from also exploiting young men or hooking up with male prostitutes and if that were the case there would definitely be stories. I think he was a core pedophile with a preference for boys. 5 hours ago, Damien M said: Michael was obviously closeted and mentally stuck at a certain age. This is, for the millionth time, not a thing. The only way to be "stuck at a certain age" is an impairment of intelligence which is a disability. That would be someone that can't live their life independently and would at the very least be in need of assistance. He was a fully functioning, calculating, autonomous adult (albeit with probably all sorts of mental disorders). Edited October 9 by ICLDXU4HS 1 2 1
tigalion Posted October 9 Posted October 9 15 hours ago, Reginald said: I find this believable. Imagine dating Madonna, Brooke Shields, and Lisa Marie but settling to have kids with Debbie Rowe, instead. No shade to Debbie Madonna? 1
Reginald Posted October 9 Posted October 9 8 minutes ago, tigalion said: Madonna? Yeah, they attended the Oscars together and considered going public with a relationship, but broke it off beforehand. From the article, "When they were romantically involved, "He told me he was still a virgin," Presley writes in the book. "I think he had kissed Tatum O'Neal, and he'd had a thing with Brooke Shields, which hadn't been physical apart from a kiss. He said Madonna had tried to hook up with him once, too, but nothing happened. I was terrified because I didn't want to make the wrong move." I personally wasn't alive during this, so I'm sure some of the older ATRLers can probably give you a more accurate story. But, imagine the alternate timeline where the King and Queen of pop started a family together 1
Vixen Eyes Posted October 9 Posted October 9 5 hours ago, kishi said: Africa, Asia and Latin America will disagree with you. Still an issue today. oh, im sorry. my mistake then, i wasnt aware.
Gesamtkunstwerk Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, Reginald said: Yeah, they attended the Oscars together and considered going public with a relationship, but broke it off beforehand. From the article, "When they were romantically involved, "He told me he was still a virgin," Presley writes in the book. "I think he had kissed Tatum O'Neal, and he'd had a thing with Brooke Shields, which hadn't been physical apart from a kiss. He said Madonna had tried to hook up with him once, too, but nothing happened. I was terrified because I didn't want to make the wrong move." I personally wasn't alive during this, so I'm sure some of the older ATRLers can probably give you a more accurate story. But, imagine the alternate timeline where the King and Queen of pop started a family together I would have loved overhearing a conversation between these two 1
velocity Posted October 9 Posted October 9 12 hours ago, Sheep said: ******* weird ass website the mental gymnastics it takes to infantilize somebody and coddle them one way or the other for their sexuality and recognize them as a victim while also acknowledging they were a monster. Make up your minds but unfortunately that's how it goes. that's not to say that every victim becomes an abuser but a lot of abusers were victims first. that's why abuse is considered a cycle that needs to be broken. to acknowledge it doesn't take away from his later crimes.
nightowl Posted October 9 Posted October 9 I vbeg to differ. He was gay in the closet who happened to love young boys. 1
Movimento Perpétuo Posted October 9 Posted October 9 22 hours ago, bad guy said: Well she's dead so this will be the last of her speaking on the matter OH MY GOD
Titanbaddie Posted October 10 Posted October 10 I'm certain he had never had sex with adult women yes.
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