ICLDXU4HS Posted October 9 Posted October 9 14 hours ago, By the Water said: That's why I don't take THOTS opinions seriously. Trying to downplay Eras Tour's impact but thinking their faves ever have been or ever will be anywhere near as impactful Charli is stupid but she's not that stupid. It's obvious that she tried to capitalize on Taylor's hype because she knows her small audience of middle aged white gays would eat it up No one ate that up except for Swifties. I've seen dozens of social media posts with comments begging for the collab being ratio'd by a "we don't want that" reply. The average Charli fan is simply not here for that connection. 4
JoeAg Posted October 9 Posted October 9 yo idk i might be biased because I live in the capital of EDM hoes, but Taylor most certainly did not reignite interest in friendship bracelets here lmao. they've been consistently popular (amongst some of the most annoying ass people i've ever met) the whole time i've lived in colorado, ever since i moved here 9 years ago. I'll definitely agree that it was impactful when Kamala suddenly had friendship bracelets on her website, but what i'm not gonna do is act like this is the most obvious shade to Taylor in the world I think this is a reach. I very much don't think Charli was shading anyone or even really paying attention to every detail of what's in her photoshoot LOL 1
WildHeart Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) 5 hours ago, 45seconds said: I'm done with this. So I'm not reading past the few few words. So you're talking to a wall at this point. TS has a specific demo and it's the one she's in. Her concerts alone could tell you that story. Believe it or not I really do not care at this point. So basically you have no source, all you have is few concert pics among 100s of millions of her listeners and you think that repeating same thing would make it right. I get it. Since nitpicking concert audiences allegedly means something, a sea full of white women Edited October 9 by WildHeart 1
Draper. Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) Swifties FAILING to realize it's not just someone else's hand lying around on the floor with some bracelets but Charli's own hand. How's that disturbing to them? Edited October 9 by Draper. 1
Moonlight Nation Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) 15 hours ago, WildHeart said: She has the widest reach of any artist this century Not when Rihanna, Bruno Mars, Adele, Coldplay, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, and The Weeknd exist. Just to name a few. For the most part, Taylor Swift is met with complete indifference if not outright distaste from the black community and straight men. While there was potential to develop new audiences during the "folklore" and "evermore" eras, post-"Midnights" she's become too juvenile and uncool to achieve a wider reach. It doesn't help her fanbase is infamous for promoting a toxic parasocial culture as well as being alienating and racist (particularly anti-black). Your other arguments are simply untrue too. Coldplay and Bruno Mars have as much presence in Latin America, with their tour stops attracting as much coverage as "The Eras Tour" there. The Weeknd has consistently been the most streamed international artist on Anghami this decade, which is the main streaming platform in the Middle East and North Africa. Rihanna hasn't released a new album in eight years but remains among the artists with most monthly listeners on Spotify. Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga began in one niche (teen pop idol vs. campy pop girl with a passionate LGBT+ fanbase) but then conquered entire new audiences through impressive career reinventions while retaining their initial followings. Adele might as well be the most universally beloved artist this century and benefitting from the widest reach. It's also telling they don't need even half the manufactured FOMO hype and incessant media exposure of Taylor but organically appeal to more demographics while also crossing over to many of her core audiences. Just saying... Edited October 9 by Moonlight Nation 3 1
45seconds Posted October 9 Posted October 9 3 hours ago, WildHeart said: So basically you have no source, all you have is few concert pics among 100s of millions of her listeners and you think that repeating same thing would make it right. I get it. Since nitpicking concert audiences allegedly means something, a sea full of white women I read so basically and replied. Not reading past it. Brick wall atrl user WildHeart. 1 1
Cloröx Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Taylor didn't invent but she surely made it popular again it's delulu to deny that 1
WildHeart Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) 8 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said: While there was potential to develop new audiences during the "folklore" and "evermore" eras, post-"Midnights" she's become too juvenile and uncool to achieve a wider reach. This makes zero sense when she is like 5x bigger post-Midnights than she was during 2020. How YOU perceive her image is NOT the reality. 8 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said: It doesn't help her fanbase is infamous for promoting a toxic parasocial culture as well as being alienating and racist (particularly anti-black). Most people don't even know what a stan culture is, general public is not chronically online or listen music based on how some people act on social media. We are talking of 100s of millions people. 8 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said: Your other arguments are simply untrue too. Coldplay and Bruno Mars have as much presence in Latin America, with their tour stops attracting as much coverage as "The Eras Tour" there. Just looking at most streamed artists in LATAM yesterday Mexico #30 Taylor #54 Bruno #55 Coldplay Brazil #9 Bruno #24 Taylor #67 Coldplay Argentina #22 Taylor #32 Coldplay #99 Bruno Chile #37 Taylor #42 Bruno #45 Coldplay Mind you Coldplay just released a new album 5 days ago and Bruno has the biggest song in the world at the moment. 8 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said: Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga began in one niche (teen pop idol vs. campy pop girl with a passionate LGBT+ fanbase) but then conquered entire new audiences through impressive career reinventions while retaining their initial followings. Talking about Bieber and Gaga's universal reach right after claiming that Taylor has no straight men appeal is... definitely a choice. Especially considering how their image have been perceived during their peaks. And their (Gaga particularly) lack of longevity compared to Taylor pretty much limited their multi generational reach, to Gen-z especially. 8 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said: It's also telling they don't need even half the manufactured FOMO hype and incessant media exposure of Taylor but organically appeal to more demographics Again, you still come to conclusion with a bias based on how you perceive things. If Taylor's peak is a hype of FOMO, so was Gaga's 2009-2010, Justin's 2009-2011, Adele's 2012-2015, Ed's 2017-2018 etc. Actually FOMO applies to them more considering how faster they fizzled out compared to Taylor. -- I would say that Rihanna & Adele are up there with her all things considered and The Weeknd is getting closer to them everyday but claiming that she only appeals to white women (like 45seconds said) is such a nonsense. I mean just today... Edited October 9 by WildHeart 1
Rep2000 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 20 hours ago, 45seconds said: And I'll have a nice yt woman friendship bracelet for you when I get there And what would that do? You assumed "yt" is my identity? Such weirdo.
Eternium Posted October 9 Posted October 9 I would believe it if you told me Marjorie Taylor Green ran this account.
Sergi91 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 The swifties are acting the same way the monsters were back in 2010 when they kept insisting Gaga was the creator of pop music/ pop culture
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted October 10 Posted October 10 I don't think either side is right. Taylor certainly made friendship bracelets more trendy/popular again and a hot talking point for style choices of the 2020s, but on the other extreme, Swifties, much similar to much other larger fanbases when their fave makes a big mark on culture, exaggerate her singular importance to the overall existence of friendship bracelets before and after her, and subsequently make any friendship bracelet shown thereafter to be "her impact", when it really may very well not be at all. Taylor took something that was already a thing, cleverly marketed it, and it blew up. That's all there is to it. 2
Bubble Tea Posted October 13 Posted October 13 On 10/9/2024 at 5:12 AM, Jacobdaniel said: lady gaga in 2013 I only recently learnt why dummies are a thing in rave culture. I was so innocent
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