base talk Swifitie revisionism goes viral

[family.guy123]

Swifties can have friendship bracelets if they really want lol. It's embarrassing for anyone older than 12 to have any part of that. 

[WildHeart]

1 hour ago, 45seconds said:

Popular for who? Because Taylor Swift only  caters to a specific demo and that demo does not have a monopoly on friendship bracelets. 

She has the widest reach of any artist this century 

[HASHTAGPOW]

Swifties really has no culture huh

 

[noodlelymph]

4 hours ago, iamanearthling said:

You know that friendship bracelet became a thing again because of the Eras tour.  Don't act dense. 

Just say you've never been to Kandi kid rave or EDC, Ultra, Lost Lands, Electric Forest, Lightning in a Bottle, Dreamstate, etc. this **** had been going LONG before this silly white girl 

[noodlelymph]

4 hours ago, iamanearthling said:

You know that friendship bracelet became a thing again because of the Eras tour.  Don't act dense. 

Just say you've never been to a Kandi kid rave or EDC, Ultra, Lost Lands, Electric Forest, Lightning in a Bottle, Dreamstate, etc. this **** had been going LONG before this silly white girl existed 

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1 hour ago, Rep2000 said:

and what is that *specific demo* you think it is? Quickly.

White teenage girls/women. You thought you had me there with a gotcha question? Be serious. 

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30 minutes ago, WildHeart said:

She has the widest reach of any artist this century 

Of different kinds of white women, yes. Widest range if different people? Absolutely not. It's delusional to even think so. 

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[Worm]

I'm a regular atrl user and this is literally the first time I'm hearing about the Taylor Swift friendship bracelet thing, so it really goes to show how easy it is to be insulated in your own bubble in 2024  I'm way more interested in following music than following tours though, so if the Swifties say it's a thing, sure.

Either way, I don't think it reads as shade. This is the photographer's explanation for the severed hand:
 

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"It's a B-movie take on the idea of a tabloid frenzy. She's sort of trapped by fame, and all the tabloid photographers are chasing her. An animal trapped in the woods would bite off its own limb — she bites off her hand. Then she's brought to the hospital and probably given some sort of painkiller. She's hallucinating. Instead of a real Hollywood tragedy, it's more of a fantasized one. She's stuck in a dreamscape."

So why would they add the friendship bracelet to it? It seems obvious enough to me - they needed a way to visually emphasise that the severed hand belonged to Charli, and adding the brat green colour to it is an obvious enough choice. I can't think of many other ways to add that garish colour to a hand and have it look good than a rave/friendship bracelet (maybe nail polish, but that wouldn't read as well) so it's easy enough to understand why they would arrive at that. Plus then you get some added symbolism of the severed hand representing the brat album too as a piece of her chopped off and distributed to the ravenous public/fans to satisfy them.  

Regardless, I definitely see how obnoxious it must be for people to see young Swifties use such crude, surface-level analysis of other artists' work try to police the use of something as ubiquitous as friendship bracelets that have been around for decades before ms Swift 

[Bonicap]

What a bunch of pathetic people. This is like watching a Twitter pfp with that Charli XCX green color and saying that it's not her influence or her brand because that color has been used in other contexts since decades ago. Just brain rotted people that like to act stupid and dense with everything related with Taylor Swift or her fans.

[YourNumber1Witch]

5 hours ago, JO1s said:

I mean in regards to charli 'shading' Taylor with charli's background in the night life/rave culture it's probably a reference to rave candy braclets

Oh man that part wasn't loading for me when I first commented. Honestly, I doubt it is shade. If anything it's just because bracelets are so popular in concert culture right now. Swifties are definitely not the only ones doing the bracelet thing as of now. Twitter really needs to get familiar with breathing exercises. 

[WildHeart]

1 hour ago, 45seconds said:

Of different kinds of white women, yes. Widest range if different people? Absolutely not. It's delusional to even think so. 

She is the biggest artist in Asia and biggest in LATAM. So no, it is not different kinds of white women. She also has more male support than any other female artist hence why she is competing with male artists. 

[Sazare]

6 hours ago, St. Charles said:

Some of these people might be really young and that can explain some of it.

Some are def just young, but I think for a lot of these people it's just that their only connection to pop culture is taylor and she's their only frame of reference for everything. It's very much this:

 

[Rep2000]

2 hours ago, 45seconds said:

White teenage girls/women. You thought you had me there with a gotcha question? Be serious. 

  

4 hours ago, 45seconds said:

Popular for who? Because Taylor Swift only  caters to a specific demo and that demo does not have a monopoly on friendship bracelets. 

And you think that White teenage girls/women are not the demo who has the monopoly on friendship bracelets?!? You are clearly not serious.

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[Zaynsus]

The only time I've heard about friendship bracelets was when I was watching Disney Channel when I was a kid/teen. I had no idea they became a thing again. 

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52 minutes ago, WildHeart said:

She is the biggest artist in Asia and biggest in LATAM. So no, it is not different kinds of white women. She also has more male support than any other female artist hence why she is competing with male artists. 

Taylor Swift is not the biggest artist in Asia. Nor is she more popular than the numerous number LATAM artists. The most popular artists in those regions are likely - and get this - people from those regions. Further, your claim she has the biggest male audience is completely pulled from where? Not that it would even matter a little when discussing friendship bracelets.

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40 minutes ago, Rep2000 said:

  

And you think that White teenage girls/women are not the demo who has the monopoly on friendship bracelets?!? You are clearly not serious.

Yt people thinking the own something? On brand. In a bubble. Every demo wears friendship bracelets. It's not a yt woman thing. Im sorry if the media you consume makes you feel otherwise and I can guarantee you those demos do not think of Taylor Swift when they buy one. Get serious. 

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[Rep2000]

49 minutes ago, 45seconds said:

Yt people thinking the own something? On brand. In a bubble. Every demo wears friendship bracelets. It's not a yt woman thing. Im sorry if the media you consume makes you feel otherwise and I can guarantee you those demos do not think of Taylor Swift when they buy one. Get serious. 

Oh, okay. Keep staying obtuse then. It's on brand for you, dear.

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37 minutes ago, Rep2000 said:

Oh, okay. Keep staying obtuse then. It's on brand for you, dear.

 Sure thing atrl user, Rep2000

[iamanearthling]

4 hours ago, noodlelymph said:

Just say you've never been to a Kandi kid rave or EDC, Ultra, Lost Lands, Electric Forest, Lightning in a Bottle, Dreamstate, etc. this **** had been going LONG before this silly white girl existed 

It's like talking to a wall.

[Rihinvention]

22 hours ago, Doctor Dick said:

THIS. Never myself got it because in that leaked video you clearly see her agreeing to Kanye implying she only became famous because of him, so that Grammy speech was total nonsense and went against what she herself said in the video. Then she changed the narrative to being offended by the word "bítch".  She clearly wasn't mad but saw a business opportunity. I actually lost a lof of respect for her because of that and will always find her to be two-faced because of that.

Yep. I should also note that I stuck by her during this time. I even have a photo of me doing a bodybuilding bulk in late-2016 where I'm wearing the gayest Swiftie singlet. I didn't care if straight guys at the gym saw it, I still loved her.

 

But I see so many young SwiftTokers rewriting history to say, "he never called her a bítch in the original video!!!"

 

That may be so, but her AOTY acceptance speech made it VERY obvious which part of the song she took offence to, and it was definitely a part that she had already heard.

 

"I wanna say to say to all the young women out there…there are going to be people along the way who will try to undercut your success…or TAKE CREDIT for YOUR accomplishments…or your FAME…but if you just focus on the work, and you don't let those people sidetrack you, someday when you get where you're going…you'll look around and you'll know…it was YOU, and the people who love you, who put you there."

 

She put so much emphasis on "TAKE CREDIT"  and "YOUR fame"  that it was hard to miss what she was offended by. I don't think young Swifties are old enough to remember that, "that bítch"  was never the issue.

 

18 months later, everyone had forgotten the details and she was able to turn it into a huge comeback with 'Reputation' and all the snake imagery, but young Swifties should look into the real cause of #TaylorSwiftIsOverParty.

 

"He never said 'that bítch'!!!"  isn't the slay they think it is. It would be a completely different story if her speech said, "There will be people along the way who call you…a BIȚCH."

 

 

Edited October 9 by Rihinvention

[Rep2000]

53 minutes ago, 45seconds said:

 Sure thing atrl user, Rep2000

As sure as we are gonna see you doing the same routine of acting obtuse and moving the goalposts in the next Taylor threads, sis. It is known.

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9 minutes ago, Rep2000 said:

As sure as we are gonna see you doing the same routine of acting obtuse and moving the goalposts in the next Taylor threads, sis. It is known.

And I'll have a nice yt woman friendship bracelet for you when I get there 

[WildHeart]

3 hours ago, 45seconds said:

Taylor Swift is not the biggest artist in Asia. Nor is she more popular than the numerous number LATAM artists. The most popular artists in those regions are likely - and get this - people from those regions. Further, your claim she has the biggest male audience is completely pulled from where? Not that it would even matter a little when discussing friendship bracelets.

So do only local artists of Asia, LATAM and Asia have non-white fans? Taylor is the biggest Western artist outside of white majority countries/world so if she has only white female fans, so does every other western artist. 

 

And i am not talking about friendship bracelets specifically (which is not something that requires to be fan to know about - look at Kamala's team), i am discussing about your comment that was talking about her only catering to white females.

There is not a single argument that back ups a claim about biggest artist of century with the biggest peak only catering to a specific audience... 

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2 hours ago, WildHeart said:

So do only local artists of Asia, LATAM and Asia have non-white fans? Taylor is the biggest Western artist outside of white majority countries/world so if she has only white female fans, so does every other western artist. 

 

And i am not talking about friendship bracelets specifically (which is not something that requires to be fan to know about - look at Kamala's team), i am discussing about your comment that was talking about her only catering to white females.

There is not a single argument that back ups a claim about biggest artist of century with the biggest peak only catering to a specific audience... 

I'm done with this. So I'm not reading past the few few words. So you're talking to a wall at this point. TS has a specific demo and it's the one she's in. Her concerts alone could tell you that story.  Believe it or not I really do not care at this point. 

[The7thStranger]

This is just a case of every generation thinking they've discovered something. In about ten years, they're going to realize how naive and ignorant they were.