FrederickGa Posted Monday at 02:40 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:40 PM 2 hours ago, Charmed Life said: You would think Liddos would have learned to stop counting their chickens before they hatch, but here we are. Let's just hope the next album turns out to be the HIT you think it will be and wont flop or be panned like her latest projects. Where did i say anything about LG7 being a HIT or somethng? My point is, we're moving on from the mess JOKER created.. as the user pointed out that I rather have blockscreenings to save JFAD's BO instead of dragging Madonna in this very thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEEKND Posted Monday at 02:40 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:40 PM Girl go to sleep why despite the plethora of albums she's released she doesn't have a single diamond album? I don't think she even has one that's more than 5x platinum this ain't the fight u want 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonnie Posted Monday at 02:41 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:41 PM 2 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: Because CHER is more RESPECTED Legend She is not And Cher's Believe was an anomaly that not even she could recreate despite several attempts later. It was a good song that came at the right time for her and nothing else. Madonna's just fine not getting another hit ever again in her life and this comparison is very dumb as Cher doesn't have 1/10 of Madonna's achievements and success. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 02:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:43 PM 2 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: That user said, Gaga's career is over after 5years so I was just laying the facts after Gaga's 16years in the industry.. Her music career was on life support in 2013. Reading is fundamental. Keep peddling the narrative about "Madonna worst actress of the century" as much as you like. It still won't change the fact Harlequin and JFAD flopped and she will never be as successful as Madonna in music. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted Monday at 02:44 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:44 PM (edited) Cher is still the oldest female to have a #1 hit, with new music, on the Billboard Hot 100 with Believe - And I don't mean to discount Mariah Carey or Brenda Lee with their Christmas Songs going #1. I think it's as important and impressive of an achievement- just pointing it out for clarification and factual reasons. And Madonna did have huge international hits with Hung Up (2006 age 47) and 4 minutes with Justin Timberlake (2008 age 49) Edited Monday at 03:05 PM by MichaelW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 02:49 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:49 PM 3 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: Where did i say anything about LG7 being a HIT or somethng? My point is, we're moving on from the mess JOKER created.. as the user pointed out that I rather have blockscreenings to save JFAD's BO instead of dragging Madonna in this very thread You implied it would be, but nothing is guaranteed. What we know is the first single is due very soon, so there's a possibility the stench from JFAD will permeate LG's album. I wouldn't get your hopes up if I were you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 02:49 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:49 PM Just now, lonnie said: She is not And Cher's Believe was an anomaly that not even she could recreate despite several attempts later. It was a good song that came at the right time for her and nothing else. Madonna's just fine not getting another hit ever again in her life and this comparison is very dumb as Cher doesn't have 1/10 of Madonna's achievements and success. The lies.. CHER's overall album units are almost 1/3 of Madonna's, plus CHER is an OSCAR Winner And to reiterate, CHER is alot more RESPECTED than Madonna 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 02:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:51 PM 1 minute ago, Charmed Life said: You implied it would be, but nothing is guaranteed. What we know is the first single is due very soon, so there's a possibility the stench from JFAD will permeate LG's album. I wouldn't get your hopes up if I were you. I mean your kind already branded Gaga as over after 5years and now below Katy Perry after Harlequin so why are you expecting SMASH Numbers from LG7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted Monday at 02:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:53 PM Madonna is not a two hit wonder like others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachoo Posted Monday at 02:53 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 02:53 PM 9 minutes ago, lonnie said: She is not And Cher's Believe was an anomaly that not even she could recreate despite several attempts later. It was a good song that came at the right time for her and nothing else. Madonna's just fine not getting another hit ever again in her life and this comparison is very dumb as Cher doesn't have 1/10 of Madonna's achievements and success. you know what, as OP of this thread, I was going to stay out of it because I was asking a genuine question. but the Cher disrespect has got to stop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 02:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:54 PM Just now, FrederickGa said: I mean your kind already branded Gaga as over after 5years and now below Katy Perry after Harlequin so why are you expecting SMASH Numbers from LG7? I didn't say either. You were the one that said you were moving on to LG7, not me. What are you going to move on to when that flops? There's literally nothing else apart from Vegas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted Monday at 02:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:55 PM 1 minute ago, Pikachoo said: but the Cher disrespect has got to stop. The Cher disrespect will stop once the Madonna disrespect stops. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonnie Posted Monday at 02:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:59 PM 3 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: The lies.. CHER's overall album units are almost 1/3 of Madonna's, plus CHER is an OSCAR Winner And to reiterate, CHER is alot more RESPECTED than Madonna None of this makes her more successful or more respected than Madonna. Cher's career as a musician is largely overlooked by critics, her only acclaim comes from her film career 40 years ago and even with that she never maintained an acclaimed acting career. The only time she's regularly brought up is by pop stans to spite Madonna which is sad because even then y'all never actually appreciate her 3 minutes ago, Pikachoo said: you know what, as OP of this thread, I was going to stay out of it because I was asking a genuine question. but the Cher disrespect has got to stop. Let that Oscar go for the love of god My god she won an Oscar 37 years ago good for her 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 02:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:59 PM 4 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: I didn't say either. You were the one that said you were moving on to LG7, not me. What are you going to move on to when that flops? There's literally nothing else apart from Vegas. An album and a tour hopefully is coming hun, you're welcome to join Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabunique Posted Monday at 03:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:01 PM Once again what does Cher winning an Oscar have to do with her music? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 03:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:01 PM 7 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: The lies.. CHER's overall album units are almost 1/3 of Madonna's, plus CHER is an OSCAR Winner And to reiterate, CHER is alot more RESPECTED than Madonna So is Barbra, it's hardly a unique achievement. Cher isn't more respected at all. She used to get a lot of **** about her surgeries before the GP moved on to attacking MJ and Madonna. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted Monday at 03:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:05 PM Who's dupe is @FrederickGa? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 03:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:05 PM 3 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: An album and a tour hopefully is coming hun A 20 date tour on the back of a flop album like she did with Chromatica, you mean? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 03:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:05 PM 3 minutes ago, lonnie said: None of this makes her more successful or more respected than Madonna. Cher's career as a musician is largely overlooked by critics, her only acclaim comes from her film career 40 years ago and even with that she never maintained an acclaimed acting career. The only time she's regularly brought up is by pop stans to spite Madonna which is sad because even then y'all never actually appreciate her Let that Oscar go for the love of god My god she won an Oscar 37 years ago good for her What do u mean, CHER's iconography has very much IMPACTED LGBT Culture a lot.. Madonna's MUSIC has a lot more impact but CHER's aesthetics/visuals are more referenced and paid homage Madonna is the bigger musician, but Cher is the bigger celebrity 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 03:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:10 PM (edited) 13 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: What do u mean, CHER's iconography has very much IMPACTED LGBT Culture a lot.. Madonna's MUSIC has a lot more impact but CHER's aesthetics/visuals are more referenced and paid homage Madonna is the bigger musician, but Cher is the bigger celebrity Before Cher came along with "Believe", it was Diana Ross, Donna Summer, Madonna and Kylie that mostly impacted LGBT community, sweetie. Edited Monday at 03:19 PM by Charmed Life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted Monday at 03:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:10 PM @FrederickGa is in here fighting for Cher out of all people yet is nowhere to be found in the Joker mega thread. Oh gee I wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 03:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:10 PM 5 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: A 20 date tour on the back of a flop album like she did with Chromatica, you mean? We'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonnie Posted Monday at 03:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:12 PM Just now, FrederickGa said: CHER's iconography has very much IMPACTED LGBT Culture a lot This is true, Cher is indeed a cultural icon 1 minute ago, FrederickGa said: Madonna's MUSIC has a lot more impac Also true, and glad you're not delusional enough to think otherwise 1 minute ago, FrederickGa said: but CHER's aesthetics/visuals are more referenced and paid homage But this is a lie. Other than the few hit tweets on Twitter every now and then, Cher's contributions to pop are usually unmentioned. 2 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: Madonna is the bigger musician, but Cher is the bigger celebrity This is also false. The fact is, aside from her Oscar win nearly 40 years ago Cher doesn't have anything on Madonna. She's released like 40 albums and only 5 of them are certified upwards of Platinum and the last time she saw the inside of the top 40 was literally Believe 26 years ago. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 03:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:13 PM Just now, Charmed Life said: Before Cher came along with "Believe", it was Diana Ross, Donna Summer, Madonna and Kylie that impacted LGBT community, sweetie. And currently? Who among Madonna and Cher are more referenced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 03:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:14 PM 3 minutes ago, Chris said: @FrederickGa is in here fighting for Cher out of all people yet is nowhere to be found in the Joker mega thread. Oh gee I wonder why. GIRL, read the Gaga Base.. I'm not fighting OGHs in the JOKER Thread because I am fighting cupcake GAGA stans in the Gaga Base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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