celeb news Luke B to Bey: If you're gonna make country albums, come into our world & be country

[Vixen Eyes]

On 10/3/2024 at 3:14 PM, Assassin said:

These country artists talk about country music like it's a cult.

it honestly is a cult. its mostly a cesspool for white christians to be bigots together.

[Xtina23]

On 10/3/2024 at 12:15 PM, tshwark said:

lol With 500 people involved, it's obvious the final product will sound too overproduced to be country.

How many?!

 

OT: We love you, Luke!!

[305]

I can't wait till she wins nothing

[Acuminatus]

People singling out country as an industry of racist men as though the rest of the music industry is so great. Renaissance deserved AOTY!

 

But yes the country scene is very insular and you need to know people and schmooze them to get award recognition. Something which the likes of Shaboozey and Post Malone were busy doing. And what Beyonce was doing for other portions of the music industry when she was on the come up. 

[Chris]

The amount of stupidity and ignorance in here.

 

 

But then again, what do you expect from ATRL?

[Jeremiah]

"Come into our world and be country with us a little bit"

 

[Soda Pop Queen]

[mons†er]

If she's from Texas, wouldn't that make

her…. country?  Her collaborating with the Dixie Chicks was just a fever dream? Wasn't one of the biggest complaints early in Beyoncé's career was that she was too country when she did interviews?  Send the flood already. 

 

Also, a white country artist telling a black woman to come into 'their' world if she wants to be acknowledged or seen as country is pretty damn racist when you think about it and say it out loud. Conforming to a white mans view of music just to be seen and acknowledged in country music when Black people created country…. 

Edited October 7 by mons†er

[swissman]

17 hours ago, iHype. said:

 

Well it's a good thing I didn't say that.

 

I said that is the reason as to why there isn't many black country artists in general.

 

The reality is there is very very few black Country artists presently and the biggest factor is because Country doesn't appeal to the vast majority of modern black people in general. 
 

If black country artists exist as an extremely small minority to begin with, ofcourse unfortunately they are going to have been represented very small in most aspects of the Country industry. 
 

The reality is not that there is tons of black Country artists everywhere you look and they're just all being ignored. Even in black platforms and environments we almost *never* see black Country artists and that is because they are very rare to come across. 

 

 

And I stated that the reason there aren't many Black country artists in general (and by extension interest in the genre) is because of the lasting impact of the segregation that occurred in the 1920s wherein two distinct categories were created, splitting a style by race. It's no wonder that over time country became insular and Black artists didn't feel welcomed to create music within that industry (like let's say, COWBOY CARTER collaborator Linda Martell, who was put on a label called Plantation Records [and she called that out as racist before being blackballed and leaving the industry] and whose first country album was titled Color Me Country).

 

One can try and excuse the lack of Black CMA winners (2) by the fact that there's a lack of Black country artists, one can say how few Black people listen to country. One cannot say that the country industry has not exhibited racism, or that it historically has been welcoming for Black artists or listeners. It's unfair to cite the result of racism as the reason the racism is upheld.

 

And to your last point, just this year we saw Tanner Adell, a Black country artist, perform at the BET Awards. Shaboozey too.

 

 

Edited October 5 by swissman

[swissman]

16 hours ago, DiabeticGrandpa said:

She is not responsible for that  if anything it's Morgan Wallen that made country popular again 

So...
 

Morgan might have made people more attuned to country music, but if his impact is so direct, are there any other examples of country singles released by unknown artists that debuted in the Top 40 of the Hot 100 on their debut week?

Are you aware that Shaboozey released two singles earlier this year that failed to chart? Where was Morgan's impact then?

Is it just a coincidence that an artist who has never in 18 attempts (with three attempts in the last year-and-a-half) charted on the Hot 100 suddenly worked with Beyoncé and two weeks later he landed his first solo single on the Hot 100? Do you really mean to say she provided no impact whatsoever to the notoriety of his name or music?

I've been clear. I don't think it's just that he worked with Beyoncé. The song was right. He chose the right moment. Two weeks before his debut, with Beyoncé he landed his first two entries on the Hot 100 (SPAGHETTII at #31, SWEET HONEY BUCKIIN' at #61) and you want to say she played no part in his success and it was more from a white man whose impact achieved nothing for Shaboozey's last three country singles?

Please.

 

But you know...we could also just ask him:

 

"I say she changed my life and changed the lives of other artists as well."

 

 

Edited October 5 by swissman

[BlossomSoul]

On 10/3/2024 at 3:27 PM, IBeMe said:

he is a dumb betch. DONT EVER FORGET that country was invented by black ppl. She doesnt have to "come into your world". She's been country. I'm tired of these white ppl appropriating country. 

not just black

 

The genre, first known as Hillbilly music, emerged as a fusion of the ballads and folk songs of the English, fiddle and dance music of the Scots-Irishwith the banjo and blues influence of African Americans.

[Hobbes]

The world in question:

 

Quote

 

I got that real good, feel good stuff
Up under the seat of my big black jacked up truck
Rollin' on thirty-fives
Pretty girl by my side
You got that sun tan skirt and boots
Waitin' on you to look my way and scoot
Your little hot self over here
Girl, hand me another beer, yeah

All them other boys wanna wine you up and take you downtown
But you look like the kind that likes to take it way out
Out where the corn rows grow, row, row my boat
Floatin' down the Flint River
Catch us up a little catfish dinner
Gonna sound like a winner
When I lay you down and love you right
Yeah, that's my kind of night

 

[Flanders]

Meanwhile: 

 

 

 

[brenda-walsh]

but that was the whole point behind the album... that she entered the country world and was rejected and face intense criticism and racism from the community

[Slap]

Honestly I don't blame her for not. The country scene is toxic as hell and she was above their petty gatekeeping. Anybody who has listened to some of the more popular country music out today knows the genre is some of the most derivative trash. There's a select few country artists pushing boundaries but the **** people lap up is trash. 

[mrpartyrocker]

On 10/4/2024 at 7:04 PM, iHype. said:

If Taylor Swift releases an R&B album and her fans buy it millions of times and it outsells every other R&B album are BET Awards & Soul Train Awards required to celebrate it? Especially if it had zero hits at R&B radio, did not generate any interest with most R&B listeners, and she failed to do a single promotion or network to R&B industry?….

How do you write BET awards without knowing what it means? It's called BET for a reason and no matter how many white artists try r&b or hip hop music, they wouldn't even stand a chance at getting a BET nomination so this Taylor comparison makes no sense whatsoever! 
 

beyonce doesn't need luke or cma to acknowledge her country roots, she created that album because it was a dream of hers, because she wanted to, not because she needed luke's approval! She did it and she moved on, now everyone else should too! The fact that she didn't get a nomination only proved her point, but it's not the end of the world for a woman that's been in the industry for almost 30 years and still runs the world!!

[Flanders]

4 minutes ago, mrpartyrocker said:

How do you write BET awards without knowing what it means? It's called BET for a reason and no matter how many white artists try r&b or hip hop music, they wouldn't even stand a chance at getting a BET nomination so this Taylor comparison makes no sense whatsoever! 
 

beyonce doesn't need luke or cma to acknowledge her country roots, she created that album because it was a dream of hers, because she wanted to, not because she needed luke's approval! She did it and she moved on, now everyone else should too! The fact that she didn't get a nomination only proved her point, but it's not the end of the world for a woman that's been in the industry for almost 30 years and still runs the world!!

I agree with your point but there are plenty of white artists who have been nominated for a BET. Justin Timberlake, Bieber, Jack Harlow, Eminem, Robin Thicke etc..

[swissman]

On 10/3/2024 at 3:44 PM, Scheissex said:

This album made no noise and Beyoncé herself even paid it dust the minute it was released  

 

 

Here is a country song by a black female that actually had an impact within the country world. 

Mickey is amazing!

Though how can you know Beyoncé "paid it dust" the minute it was released? What we do know is that Beyoncé sent Mickey flowers.

[Sannie]

Eh... country music is as fake and contrived as any other genre. The gatekeeping makes no sense.

 

What also doesn't make any sense is this idea that Beyonce is automatically country because she's black. Dumb people are going to be possessive of their respective genres. Water is wet.

[ScorpiosGroove]

On 10/5/2024 at 2:44 AM, 305 said:

I can't wait till she wins nothing

why ? she'll still be the most awarded artist of all time and you'll still be miserable 

[collin]

I fear he has a point but she also tried and famously was hated for performing at the CMAs.  What is she supposed to do?

[iHype.]

7 hours ago, mrpartyrocker said:

How do you write BET awards without knowing what it means? It's called BET for a reason and no matter how many white artists try r&b or hip hop music, they wouldn't even stand a chance at getting a BET nomination so this Taylor comparison makes no sense whatsoever! 

And you've clearly never actually watched the BET Awards 

[Princess Aurora]

Luke to Beyoncé :

 

 

[Princess Aurora]

On 10/6/2024 at 4:54 PM, Flanders said:

Meanwhile: 

 

 

 

I- 

[Jon Snow]

On 10/4/2024 at 7:44 PM, iHype. said:

 

Exactly 

this is the exact same way Elon Musk communicates on his app 

Edited October 7 by Jon Snow