celeb news Luke B to Bey: If you're gonna make country albums, come into our world & be country

[toast]

Starting to understand why she made a point of explicitly saying "this ain't a country album" at the top of the rollout

[IBeMe]

he is a dumb betch. DONT EVER FORGET that country was invented by black ppl. She doesnt have to "come into your world". She's been country. I'm tired of these white ppl appropriating country. 

[swissman]

9 minutes ago, Raver said:

It's crazy how her fans think she deserves to be nominated just because she released a country album (that they don't even **** with). He is correct 

So what gets a deserved nomination? Great music? She has that. A huge country hit? She has that. A unique work? Check. Creating a moment in the genre? Certainly...

 

...why does she deserve to not be nominated?

[Khris]

1 hour ago, IBeMe said:

I'm tired of these white ppl appropriating country. 

imagine how they feel when idiot geighs and theys -- whove never listened to country music in their lives until 2024 , start acting like they have agency over a cultural movement thats been around for almost 200 years 

[Queenyoncee]

 

 

[Khris]

1 hour ago, swissman said:

 A unique work? Check. Creating a moment in the genre? Certainly...

Impact where, besides her fanbase of delusional limp wrists

 

[swissman]

9 minutes ago, Khris said:

but she did none of this 

Factually, that is incorrect.

 

She became the First Black Woman to top the Hot Country Songs Chart.

The success and attention paid toward the album has made it so her previously unknown collaborator (a Black man) now has one of the longest running #1 hits of all time (a country song).

 

If this isn't impact or reclamation of the genre, what is?

 

 

Edited October 3 by swissman

[Khris]

1 hour ago, Queenyoncee said:

 

 

i welcome you to google when keith urban had his last hit. This piss poor excuse works for no one except the Low IQh.i.v.e

[Assassin]

12 minutes ago, anastaciabby said:

you guys talk about pop the same way 

who exactly is "you guys"??

[Khris]

1 hour ago, swissman said:

Factually, that is incorrect.

 

She became the First Black Woman to top the Hot Country Songs Chart.

thats literally one thing.... and breaking a record =/= winning an award. Otherwise Taylor swift would win every award ever. 

1 hour ago, swissman said:

The success and attention paid toward the album has made it so her previously unknown collaborator (a Black man) now has one of the longest running #1 hits (a country song).

 

If this isn't impact or reclamation of the genre, what is?

the rest of this is just what you want to think happened wkjhjfjfsbbsf yall are crazy in ur dickriding

[anastaciabby]

1 minute ago, Assassin said:

who exactly is "you guys"??

this forum?

[bwhansen]

She did try to "come into that world and be country." The response was "get that black b*tch off the stage." 

[Khal]

What does that even mean? Like she has to drive a pickup? Chew tobacco? Attend a Trump rally?

[Noodles]

14 minutes ago, Khris said:

but she did none of this 

Do you know the current #1 Hot 100 song that's on track to break the all time record is of what genre and by who?

[swissman]

2 minutes ago, Khris said:

Impact where, besides her fanbase of delusional limp wrists

 

Why are you resorting to homophobia so often in this thread? What does it serve you?

 

Anyway, the impact has mainly been on Black artists in the country genre, many of which have had massive spikes in streams and sales, including Shaboozey who now has the LONGEST running #1 hit of 2014, is one of the longest running #1 hits of all time.

Now, why did you cross out "unique work" and "create a moment in the genre". Both of those are explicitly true. You can prove otherwise though by telling me how many other albums sound like COWBOY CARTER if it's not unique, and by showing how little discussion there was about the album leading up to its release.

[Afterglow]

12 minutes ago, anastaciabby said:

There is no impact from this specific album, there's been many other smaller black artists doing country that are from Texas, so what is the difference? because she's a billionaire that has a huge stan base?

 

and yes I'm from Texas so what? yes there is different types of country, like the original actually good outlaw country we had here back in the day that I grew up loving, I don't like this loser and the crappy bro country that started up ages ago, same as I don't like glossy country music 

How is there no impact? Literally after it's release many black female country artists praised her for bringing black country to the mainstream. Social media was ablaze with the fact that a major black pop artist was brave enough to do a country album, AND media outlets finally brought black country artists and the reclamation of the genre to the forefront. 

 

You can be upset but it doesn't change the facts. 

[LVP]

3 minutes ago, Khal said:

What does that even mean? Like she has to drive a pickup? Chew tobacco? Attend a Trump rally?

Bleach her skin and grow a p***s

[swissman]

6 minutes ago, Khris said:

thats literally one thing.... and breaking a record =/= winning an award. Otherwise Taylor swift would win every award ever. 

the rest of this is just what you want to think happened wkjhjfjfsbbsf yall are crazy in ur dickriding

I never said she should win an award for breaking a record. I cited it as one of the many reasons she should have gotten at least one nomination. Your comparison to Taylor also doesn't work since she's routinely nominated and wins AOTYs even when it's not deserved.

As for Shaboozey, sure. Being featured on Beyoncé's album TWICE has had NO impact on his success, right? Meanwhile he released 18 singles prior to the one he put out just 2 weeks after COWBOY CARTER, and it went on to reach #1.

[Scheissex]

This album made no noise and Beyoncé herself even paid it dust the minute it was released  

 

 

Here is a country song by a black female that actually had an impact within the country world. 

[Achilles.]

It was always obvious that Cowboy Carter was going to struggle because country music is very insular and she didn't exactly go to Nashville and make the album with established names in country music. I mean, most of the writers and producers on the album are not people in the genre. Of course people who have spent their whole lives making this music would side-eye and ignore the album; they don't see it as a genuine effort to be part of the genre. 
 

Keith Urban being from Australia and Darius Rucker being a black rock act both exemplify what is considered the "right" way to move into country music. They signed to Nashville labels, worked with Nashville songwriters and Nashville producers. They put in the time and effort meeting and gladhanding the power players and influencers in the genre. Beyoncé did none of these things and merely expected to coast by on her brand name and popularity outside of the genre, all while promoting an album whose classification as "country" has been fairly dubious and divisive.

[Scheissex]

3 minutes ago, swissman said:

I never said she should win an award for breaking a record. I cited it as one of the many reasons she should have gotten at least one nomination. Your comparison to Taylor also doesn't work since she's routinely nominated and wins AOTYs even when it's not deserved.

As for Shaboozey, sure. Being featured on Beyoncé's album TWICE has had NO impact on his success, right? Meanwhile he released 18 singles prior to the one he put out just 2 weeks after COWBOY CARTER, and it went on to reach #1.

A Bar Song is #1 because of Tik Tok, not because he was featured on a random Beyonce album track that no one has streamed since April  Please be for real. 

[swissman]

Shaboozey's Hot 100 Singles History:

1. Jeff Gordon, 2014 DID NOT CHART
2. Starfoxx, 2017 DID NOT CHART
3. Winning Streak, 2017 DID NOT CHART
4. Robert Plant, 2017 DID NOT CHART
5. Break the Band (How Could She?), 2018 DID NOT CHART
6. Golden Child, 2018 DID NOT CHART
7. Cabelas, 2019 DID NOT CHART
8. More, 2019 DID NOT CHART
9. Joan Jett, 2019 DID NOT CHART
10. Prosperity, 2019 DID NOT CHART
11. I Can't Remember My Own Dreams, 2020 DID NOT CHART
12. Another Me, 2020 DID NOT CHART
13. Beverley Hills, 2021 DID NOT CHART
14. Tall Boy, 2021 DID NOT CHART
15. Gas!, 2022 DID NOT CHART
16. Let It Burn, 2023 DID NOT CHART
17. Anabelle, 2024 DID NOT CHART
18. Vegas, 2024 DID NOT CHART
19. [RIGHT AFTER COWBOY CARTER RELEASE] A Bar Song (Tipsy) TWELVE WEEKS AT #1

 

Now obviously it's not all Beyoncé's fault. The song is great, catchy, and has mass appeal. However, to think that being on COWBOY CARTER twice (the most out of any featured artist) emphatically had no impact on him or his song, that it did not increase his fame nor listenership at all to the extent that he could start growing his own audience is an outrageous claim to make.

[anastaciabby]

5 minutes ago, Afterglow said:

How is there no impact? Literally after it's release many black female country artists praised her for bringing black country to the mainstream. Social media was ablaze with the fact that a major black pop artist was brave enough to do a country album, AND media outlets finally brought black country artists and the reclamation of the genre to the forefront. 

 

You can be upset but it doesn't change the facts. 

it's not upsetting? you can resort to the typical 'you mad?' response but how is it daring for someone with such a huge career that was able to make her a billionaire going into a genre that (sadly) became so popular, daring? 

 

My point in mentioning the forum in another post was that this is how it is with every genre (rap, pop, rock, country, etc)

if you just release something and let it die like bey did by not promoting, not performing in country awards, by not releasing any type of visual to show what she was thinking when creating this, the genre itself isn't going to award you. 

It isn't about being upset at bey, though I was when she decided to work with Travis Scott after what he did in her own hometown but that's off topic 

[xxxlamb]

25 minutes ago, JO1s said:

His face looks frozen

It's a picture aka still

[JO1s]

1 minute ago, xxxlamb said:

It's a picture aka still

No clearly botox