celeb news Ethel Cain defends Chapell Roan, drags Kamala

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, Wicked said:

They've been calling members of these marginalized communities they claim to champion MAGAts and sell outs because they either don't want to support Harris at all or want to go a different route altogether

The irony being... those voting for Harris are largely left unbothered! We're so deep in the trenches that nearly no one is doing horizontal aggression on those who are voting for her, let alone other marginalized people who are holding their nose despite not liking Harris in either 2020 or 2024. Chappell is literally voting for her!

 

But because Harris is explicitly running a right-wing, anti-progressive campaign, the parasocial nature of the Democratic Party now sees people who claim to support social justice and progressivism (issues appropriated from progressives) become no different in their eagerness to dehumanize poor people and marginalized people for not voting for their candidate. It's literally Blue MAGA. To even punch up at Harris for being so right-wing is foul play despite her own innate privilege. 

 

Bernie Sanders in 2020 was discussing making single payer a reality and making access to healthcare a right for trans people. In 2024, we're left to discuss how maybe it's for the best Harris and the DNC chose to not mention healthcare at all during the DNC or not have a trans speaker at the DNC to not alienate Never-Trump Republicans.

 

Both parties are disproportionately now represented by professional-managerial class elites who use populism to preserve the neoliberal, neoconservative status quo.

 

If Chappell came out and said she was voting for Jill Stein, prominent liberals would literally try and blacklist her and she'd likely face threats of political violence from Dems.

 

Democrats have regressed back to pre-2008 levels of ideology. The last 20 years of progressivism for most issues might as well have not happened.

[welham]

if only an INCH of the outrage and hostility directed towards these two was utilized to pressure Kamala, but you dumb pieces of **** are caving in, not demanding concessions, and attacking progressives demanding these concessions. 

 

Your "lesser of the two evils" bullshit has lead you into supporting a candidate that is committed to the genocide of my people, and now you're demanding people like Chappell to campaign and advocate for your genocide candidate. 

 

Seriously, genuinely, truly: **** all of you Genocide Cop cheerleaders. 

[Sabrina Carpenter]

i mean you guys only have 2 choices to pick from

 

Kamala is the lesser evil and dragging her doesn't help your side  maybe wait until [if] she wins before doing that 

[Uncatena]

1 minute ago, SpaceOddity said:

The fact that you have to explain this.

the fact that any of this needs to be explained is maddening 

[Mornings]

2 minutes ago, Uncatena said:

okay, so he is just as bad as the democratic presidential candidate and current democratic president, got it. like, yes Trump is most likely also a genocidial maniac who would continue the genocide that the current democratic administration helped start and continues to enable in any way possible. the very party that wants to stay in office. 

Okay so what's the solution here? We gotta start thinking big picture if both of them are not going to support a free Palestine movement. 
 

and which candidate is more willing to be convinced of a free Palestine if that is the goal? 

[Biggie]

1 minute ago, welham said:

if only an INCH of the outrage and hostility directed towards these two was utilized to pressure Kamala, but you dumb pieces of **** are caving in, not demanding concessions, and attacking progressives demanding these concessions. 

 

Your "lesser of the two evils" bullshit has lead you into supporting a candidate that is committed to the genocide of my people, and now you're demanding people like Chappell to campaign and advocate for your genocide candidate. 

 

Seriously, genuinely, truly: **** all of you Genocide Cop cheerleaders. 

**** you too. Drop dead. 

[Raver]

Kamala has not earned any votes, not even mine 

[welham]

1 minute ago, Biggie said:

**** you too. Drop dead. 

Don't worry, your Genocide Goddess is working on it as we speak!

[Uncatena]

1 minute ago, Mornings said:

Okay so what's the solution here? We gotta start thinking big picture if both of them are not going to support a free Palestine movement. 

you are right but I don't think my earnest answer would go over well here

 

2 minutes ago, Mornings said:

and which candidate is more willing to be convinced of a free Palestine if that is the goal? 

I don't have hope in either

[réveuse]

3 minutes ago, Biggie said:

**** you too. Drop dead. 

Are you sending a Palestinian death threats for speaking against the party and person responsible for the genocide of his people?

 

You are absolutely vile.

[Uncatena]

3 minutes ago, Biggie said:

**** you too. Drop dead. 

you could've just asked a mod to delete your account instead of getting banned like this.

[Communion]

6 minutes ago, Mornings said:

Okay so what's the solution here?

The variables at play on the board are the candidate and her positions, not the voters, who simply have the option to not vote. 

 

Genuinely this is basic political literacy. You people are literally recreating the exact failures of Clinton. 

 

The people you're scolding are not doing moral grandstanding. They understand that this chosen path is so deeply unpopular that Harris barely has a higher chance over a fascist and thus understand the easiest path to fix that is forcing the candidate to re-pivot, not scream at pop stars:

 

If Harris is expected to struggle to recreate Biden's winning 2020 map, while running away from even the minor progressive policies Biden held, what does that mean?

 

Edited September 27 by Communion

[Into The Void]

48 minutes ago, Uncatena said:

 

I want yall to point to me where in Ethel's post (and Chappell's statements for that matter) she said people shouldn't vote for Harris/should vote for Trump. 

A vote for 3rd party is a wasted vote

[Uncatena]

Just now, Into The Void said:

A vote for 3rd party is a wasted vote

again, point to me where in Ethel's posts (or Chappell's statements) she is encouraging people to vote third party

[Into The Void]

4 minutes ago, Uncatena said:

again, point to me where in Ethel's posts (or Chappell's statements) she is encouraging people to vote third party

They didn't 

[Dominic Fike]

14 minutes ago, Biggie said:

**** you too. Drop dead. 

Jesus… this person is talking about real things and you are responding like this.

Edited September 27 by Dominic Fike

[Into The Void]

11 minutes ago, Biggie said:

**** you too. Drop dead. 

Wtf kind of response is this. 

[KKW]

2 hours ago, Ryan said:

I'm so over these white celebs who will be just fine under a Trump presidency. Witch, bye. 

It's them fake putting their faith in a third party candidate like Jill Stein who doesn't even have a political presence on the local level outside of a stint on the recycling committee 

 

So quick to fall for a grifter because she says everything they want to hear every four years while doing nothing in the interim for local politics 

[JO1s]

22 minutes ago, Biggie said:

**** you too. Drop dead. 

Well, no. This is completely uncalled for.

[State of Grace.]

26 minutes ago, Biggie said:

**** you too. Drop dead. 

Oh tolerant progressive liberals  

[homosexual_behaviour]

14 minutes ago, Biggie said:

**** you too. Drop dead. 

@khalyan should this not result in an immediate permaban? telling a palestinian member to "drop dead " when his people are being murdered everyday is absolutely vile 

[punisher]

yall have got to stop getting mad at celebrities for not being a kamala boot-licker

yall have called cardi, ethel, chappel and other celebrities trumpies just because they do not want to endorse kamala due to her israel support which is totally valid

not all criticism to kamala or democrats is an immediate co-sign to trump, because the truth is they're both extremely shitty and evil people, and both deserve their criticisms. now call me when ethel starts advocating for trump, which you will not see happen

 

[Ryan]

1 hour ago, DougAF said:

???
 

I was trying to point out your ridiculous statement that she "will be just fine under a trump presidency." What does Caitlyn Jenner have to do with anything? 

I mean you'd certainly be much better off than her... 

 

The response to my comment was she’s trans, as if that somehow makes her immune to criticism or makes what I said any less valid. She is semi famous, has money and has the privilege of not being directly impacted by a Trump presidency. Her being trans doesn’t negate that. 

[Ryan]

5 minutes ago, punisher said:

yall have got to stop getting mad at celebrities for not being a kamala boot-licker

yall have called cardi, ethel, chappel and other celebrities trumpies just because they do not want to endorse kamala due to her israel support which is totally valid

not all criticism to kamala or democrats is an immediate co-sign to trump, because the truth is they're both extremely shitty and evil people, and both deserve their criticisms. now call me when ethel starts advocating for trump, which you will not see happen

 

Im fine with criticism. I’m fine with trying to hold being accountable. But at the end of the day it is a binary choice. A vote for anyone but Kamala is a vote for Trump. I’m not saying that to guilt anyone to vote for her. Just be prepared to stand on business if that’s the message one is putting out there. 

[Rino]

I think Ethel Cain is a bit too extreme with her words and social media activity, but she's right that Chappell is valid with her opinion and doubts. 

 

the Democratic party, including Kamala, created this problem for themselves when they decided to continue funding the genocide.

 

if I lived in the US, I would be just as torn during this election as Chappell tbh. like I would ultimately vote for Kamala, but it would kill my conscience that I'm helping the literal genocide.