Uncatena Posted September 27 Posted September 27 5 hours ago, Ryan said: The response to my comment was she's trans, as if that somehow makes her immune to criticism or makes what I said any less valid. She is semi famous, has money and has the privilege of not being directly impacted by a Trump presidency. Her being trans doesn't negate that. great, thanks for the clarification! another quick question, why tf is the user who wished death on another user not permabanned yet? 2
Prodigal Self Posted September 27 Posted September 27 The democracy is in DANGER because of this privileged out of touch celebrity Ethel Cain (trans girl from rural inbredville, AL) 2 9 3
Démodé Posted September 27 Posted September 27 All answers from genocidal Karen's supporters about how a third party vote is NOT an option really proves how the democracy you all claim gives power to the people has failed miserably. Having two options, the bad and the worst, is literally as far from democracy as it can be. 1 1
MistressKay Posted September 27 Posted September 27 Ethel sweetie trump wants you eradicated. Calm down sweetie. I feel bad for Palestine too but we gotta also be self preserving. 2 1
MistressKay Posted September 27 Posted September 27 5 minutes ago, Démodé said: All answers from genocidal Karen's supporters about how a third party vote is NOT an option really proves how the democracy you all claim gives power to the people has failed miserably. Having two options, the bad and the worst, is literally as far from democracy as it can be. I'll vote third next election. I will NOT be contributing to trump getting in. The republicans are not voting third. They all sticking by trump. If they were voting third too then I'd say **** it but they aren't. 2 1
Thesedays Posted September 27 Posted September 27 12 hours ago, Big Bad Wolf said: Ethel has access to better resources and connections than most. She will be fine regardless. People need to stop comparing their lives to celebrities (or people in the industry) Are the Muslims across the country and all the Palestinean rights associations that refused to endorse Kamala (including representative Rashida Tlaib) also privileged white celebrities? 5 1
Thesedays Posted September 27 Posted September 27 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sugden said: This moral superiority over supporting palestine is so unbearable I can only imagine what type of **** you'd guys would say during the holocaust and other ****** up historical events. Edited September 27 by Thesedays 3 1
chiliam Posted September 27 Posted September 27 4 hours ago, Windy Day said: i deleted my first quote because it was rude. i'm tired of this kind of comment but since you may be genuinely confused: nobody think trump will support palestine. on the contrary, it's gonna be worse. BUT kamala should absolutely being held accountable and be rightfully criticized and exposed for her hypocrisy and for her crimes along with joe biden. that doesn't mean not voting for her, but publicly endorsing her is very different. endorsing her means endorsing her policies. and people like ethel and chappell roan, who have been very vocal about what's happening in palestine, simply cannot do that. even if they do vote for her americans SHOULD put pressure on kamala before she gets elected if they truly care about human rights, because what i'm seeing now is someone who's all talk but doesn't truly care about the lives of millions of brown people yeah im not from the US so genuinely confused. Cause i see a lot of people complain about Kamala for supporting Israel but no one complain about Trump on that aspect so i did think Trump will do something to help Palestine. So it`s clearly not the case. Then we should have the same energy for both and while complaining about Kamala, should also complain about Trump on the same topic. Otherwise its kinda misleading. 1
Démodé Posted September 27 Posted September 27 4 minutes ago, chiliam said: yeah im not from the US so genuinely confused. Cause i see a lot of people complain about Kamala for supporting Israel but no one complain about Trump on that aspect so i did think Trump will do something to help Palestine. So it`s clearly not the case. Then we should have the same energy for both and while complaining about Kamala, should also complain about Trump on the same topic. Otherwise its kinda misleading. Nothing misleading about it. Trump has never been pro-humanity so therefore he would NEVER be pro-Palestine. He's no hypocrite, he's directly vile. Harris on the other hand uses human rights as a pretext while her party also actively arms Isra*ell, so people call her hypocrisy out.
piotrert Posted September 27 Posted September 27 all of this would be spared if chappell had two braincells to articulate her views in one statement instead of making 15 amendments. you don't want to have media training or good pr - fine enjoy being shredded into pieces. 1 2 3
Uncatena Posted September 27 Posted September 27 just an addon for the "its NOT the time to critique Kamala!!!" crowd 2 6
FailSafe Posted September 27 Posted September 27 (edited) Wether you hate Chapell or not, it's necessary for her to speak about Kamala being pro-Israel. Somebody has to have the courage to say that. This should get big, more big names should talk about this. Maybe if this get big enough, Kamala would be forced to say something, maybe then current administration will stop funding Israel. I'm sick and tired of these so called leaders being pro-genocide . *** them all. Edited September 27 by FailSafe 5
Communion Posted September 27 Posted September 27 8 hours ago, nadiamendell said: she is our ONLY legitimate alternative to Trump. The issue with this is that Biden similarly tried to do a pivot rightward after clinching the nomination (saying he'd veto M4A even if Republicans of all people helped Dems pass it, scolding the Breakfast Club that people who don't wanna support him weren't really black), but then the campaign saw the initial numbers uhhh not looking so hot (ex: Biden went from beating Trump by 7 points in PA in polling during the primary and had collapsed to just a +2 polling average by the time the hostile primary wrapped up). And so he recalculated his campaign and his team understood the need to make concessions to the left flank of the party who just had the rug pulled from their feet and were emotionally devastated. Harris has a blueprint on how to win. She can just copy Biden's 2020 strategy. She's purposefully not doing that. There's strong evidence her plan is much riskier. Which means she doesn't want to win as badly as Biden did. Which means she needs to be pressured to change course. Because if people are making these much of an issue of defectors, clearly they don't have faith Harris has this in the bag.
on the line Posted September 27 Posted September 27 9 hours ago, UnusualBoy said: The only times I hear from her is when she is talking about politics This is literally the only time I've ever heard of her so in my mind she's just another young, white-girl savior talking out her ass bc she lacks life experience and maturity to understand how words and actions have effects. 1
on the line Posted September 27 Posted September 27 6 hours ago, Démodé said: All answers from genocidal Karen's supporters about how a third party vote is NOT an option really proves how the democracy you all claim gives power to the people has failed miserably. Having two options, the bad and the worst, is literally as far from democracy as it can be. Nobody is saying they love America's 2-party system, sis. Don't gaslight us. Some of us have just been around long enough to know that that isn't going to change in the next 39 days when an actual election with real consequences is occurring. 2
on the line Posted September 27 Posted September 27 16 minutes ago, Communion said: The issue with this is that Biden similarly tried to do a pivot rightward after clinching the nomination (saying he'd veto M4A even if Republicans of all people helped Dems pass it, scolding the Breakfast Club that people who don't wanna support him weren't really black), but then the campaign saw the initial numbers uhhh not looking so hot (ex: Biden went from beating Trump by 7 points in PA in polling during the primary and had collapsed to just a +2 polling average by the time the hostile primary wrapped up). And so he recalculated his campaign and his team understood the need to make concessions to the left flank of the party who just had the rug pulled from their feet and were emotionally devastated. Harris has a blueprint on how to win. She can just copy Biden's 2020 strategy. She's purposefully not doing that. There's strong evidence her plan is much riskier. Which means she doesn't want to win as badly as Biden did. Which means she needs to be pressured to change course. Because if people are making these much of an issue of defectors, clearly they don't have faith Harris has this in the bag. Lmao. The tin foil hat conspiracies. I had to, yet again, check to see if I accidentally clicked a Fox News reddit sub. 1
Démodé Posted September 27 Posted September 27 18 minutes ago, on the line said: Nobody is saying they love America's 2-party system, sis. Don't gaslight us. Some of us have just been around long enough to know that that isn't going to change in the next 39 days when an actual election with real consequences is occurring. And I never said that someone stated that they love it. I'm simply observing that everybody seems to say "third party votes ONLY help Trump" therefore promoting vote for Harris who has her own vices. I could be saying the same for a lot of countries' elections, including mine. I'm not gaslighting anyone. 1
AaronBryceSufjan Posted September 27 Posted September 27 all these word salads and echo chamber fighting... 2
Communion Posted September 27 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, on the line said: The tin foil hat conspiracies A candidate pandering to a group much less likely to vote for her at the detriment of the groups who historically vote for her is not conspiracy. It's basic political analysis. You obviously disagree and will try to push back on this assessment as one of the affluent right wing voters she is pandering to. 1
surprisecentres Posted September 27 Posted September 27 What a surprise that the other major loser in the industry is defending her lol 2 3
Shinkirou Posted September 27 Posted September 27 Why do people think that holding democrats accountable means you support Trump? The bipartisan system has made people brainrot is2g 6 1
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted September 27 ATRL Administrator Posted September 27 8 hours ago, Uncatena said: great, thanks for the clarification! another quick question, why tf is the user who wished death on another user not permabanned yet? Am I supposed to know what you’re referring to?
MattieB Posted September 27 Posted September 27 18 hours ago, Ryan said: I'm so over these white celebs who will be just fine under a Trump presidency. Witch, bye. The downvotes are so telling, i'll once again reiterate, white gay men are white first
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