celeb news Halsey: '[My new] singles don't seem to be doing much [on the charts]'

[Saintlor]

 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

thats not what she said but its always a bummer if you put a lot of effort into making somgs ans videos and nothing seems to stick.

[SpaceOddity]

Before people start throwing out dumb words like calculated and chart-obsessed, you have to realize that there's massive pressure behind the scenes from the people up high and the labels to bring them big numbers especially for artists who for an instance had their Without Mes and their Closers in the past. That's not to say there aren't many artists who care about number ones and good numbers to stroke their egos and whatnot, but it genuinely seems to me that the only reason Halsey keeps talking about this stuff lately is cause she keeps getting nagged hard into trying to score a hit and it's obviously taking a toll on her. 

[Saintlor]

It's sad because it seems to mean a lot to her and I feel like she's hurt by the underperforming music.

 

Hopefully the album is as good as the last one and it will keep the fans very happy and she can hopefully get peace in that

Edited September 26 by Saintlor

[dejmieeen]

That's clever. The other Mediocrity should look and take a notes instead of forcing her bland music to Get #1s. 

[Saintlor]

I also am feeling like this next album may not be one of her best ones, and if her fans don't like it I hope it doesn't take too much of a toll on her.

[MonsterNavy]

focusing on the entire album instead of just 1 smash hit is always better

[Both Sides Now]

Seems like a pretty mature response.

 

I'm not sure what happened to her career. I know IICHLIWP was an arts not charts but she used to bag some streaming hits pretty easily but now nothing is sticking. 

[KillingYourCareer]

She's very self-aware. May she let the music speak for itself!

[Saintlor]

4 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

Seems like a pretty mature response.

 

I'm not sure what happened to her career. I know IICHLIWP was an arts not charts but she used to bag some streaming hits pretty easily but now nothing is sticking. 

She only really had a huge fanbase during the Badlands era. 
 

I think with each subsequent release, her fan base got smaller.

 

It was probably because she nailed the indie pop sound with that album, and people may feel like each following album was a bit more 'sellout' even though I liked them.

 

The type of music of Hopeless Fountain Kingdom and Manic isn't the type of music that gets you or sustains a cult fan base

 

Now she doesn't have a fan base to help her out when the singles don't smash 

Edited September 26 by Saintlor

[AshleyLovescats887]

I am really glad that Halsey doesn't worry too much about the charts, as they barely reflect what's good and what isn't.

Personally 'The Great Impersonator' is one of my most anticipated albums of the year and I could care less about whether it has a GP hit or not.

[AlbumOfTheYear]

*Laughs in Sky Ferreira*

 

She should do it for the arts, not the charts.

Edited September 26 by AlbumOfTheYear

[Saintlor]

3 minutes ago, AshleyLovescats887 said:

I am really glad that Halsey doesn't worry too much about the charts, as they barely reflect what's good and what isn't.

Personally 'The Great Impersonator' is one of my most anticipated albums of the year and I could care less about whether it has a GP hit or not.

In 2024, a song being a GP hit is usually an indicator that it's a bad song anyways

Edited September 26 by Saintlor

[AshleyLovescats887]

2 minutes ago, Saintlor said:

She only really had a huge fanbase during the Badlands era. 
 

I think with each subsequent release, her fan base got smaller.

 

It was probably because she nailed the indie pop sound with that album, and people may feel like each following album was a bit more 'sellout' even though I liked them.

 

Now she doesn't have a fan base to help her out when the singles don't smash 

I mean, she always has Tumblr supporting her.

I find it very interesting how Halsey doesn't get labelled "indie" yet she isn't labelled "mainstream" either, so she's in this juxtaposition void

[Mocha]

usually, it's her pure pop songs that smash, Without Me, Be Kind and You should be sad being the latest examples. Her pop rock songs are my favorite but it seems like the newer gen and the GP aren't here for that sound. Did she even release any pure pop after Manic? I guess Lucky but we already practically heard the entire song from Britney's version 20 years ago.

 

 

 

Edited September 26 by Mocha

[Outlaws]

Well, they are terrible, so.

 

Lucky was a fluke, sorry.

 

[Saintlor]

4 minutes ago, AshleyLovescats887 said:

I mean, she always has Tumblr supporting her.

I find it very interesting how Halsey doesn't get labelled "indie" yet she isn't labelled "mainstream" either, so she's in this juxtaposition void

I never understand people's labelling of music

 

Charli's music is viewed as cool and edgy and not mainstream but people would view it as dated or uncool if practically any other pop girl sung it

 

A lot of how music is viewed is heavily based on marketing even if people don't want to admit that.

 

The way an artist acts and presents themselves and their marketing is way more influential on people than the actual quality of a song 

Edited September 26 by Saintlor

[CozySkin]

Good response 

[EndofASadMovie]

Give all the Chappell Roam success to Halsey please 

[mypaintoyou]

Ego is so good

it should've been smashing 

[AshleyLovescats887]

Just now, Mocha said:

usually, it's her pure pop songs that smash, Without Me, Be Kind and You should be sad being the latest examples. Her pop rock songs are my favorite but it seems like the newer gen and the GP aren't here for that sound. Did she even release any pure pop after Manic? I guess Lucky but we already practically heard the entire song from Britney's version.

 

 

 

Well, no. Not by GP's meaning of pure pop.

Halsey did talk about how Atticus and Trent didn't care about the charts, so the production on 'If I Can't Have Love, I Want Power' is a lot more experimental. It's poppiest song is 'Girl is a gun', but it wasn't promoted as a single or anything at all.

The album's lead single was 'I'm not a woman, I'm a god' which had pop elements, but it was still rather alternative and not so GP friendly sonically, so it debuted at #64 on Billboard.

Then she had 'You asked for this', which wasn't that promoted at all and wasn't GP friendly either.

'Lilith' got a SUGA remix for some computer game, but it didn't really do much on the charts at all.

 

Honestly I'm kinda surprised that 'Ego' didn't pick up on the charts, especially after the VMAs, as that song felt pretty GP friendly, but the tasteless stay tasteless.

[Saintlor]

3 minutes ago, mypaintoyou said:

Ego is so good

it should've been smashing 

The melody and lyrics are good (the pre chorus is particularly catchy), but I wish she chose a different producer. The production makes the song sound like it's from 2014. Especially the instrumental sound after she says "I think that I should try to kill my ego"

Edited September 26 by Saintlor

[Mocha]

1 minute ago, AshleyLovescats887 said:

Well, no. Not by GP's meaning of pure pop.

Halsey did talk about how Atticus and Trent didn't care about the charts, so the production on 'If I Can't Have Love, I Want Power' is a lot more experimental. It's poppiest song is 'Girl is a gun', but it wasn't promoted as a single or anything at all.

The album's lead single was 'I'm not a woman, I'm a god' which had pop elements, but it was still rather alternative and not so GP friendly sonically, so it debuted at #64 on Billboard.

Then she had 'You asked for this', which wasn't that promoted at all and wasn't GP friendly either.

'Lilith' got a SUGA remix for some computer game, but it didn't really do much on the charts at all.

 

Honestly I'm kinda surprised that 'Ego' didn't pick up on the charts, especially after the VMAs, as that song felt pretty GP friendly, but the tasteless stay tasteless.

In a perfect world, girl is a gun, you asked for this and honey would've been top 5 hits  

[AshleyLovescats887]

9 minutes ago, Saintlor said:

I never understand people's labelling of music

 

Charli's music is viewed as cool and edgy and not mainstream but people would view it as dated or uncool if practically any other pop girl sung it

 

A lot of how music is viewed is heavily based on marketing even if people don't want to admit that.

 

The way an artist acts and presents themselves and their marketing is way more influential on people than the actual quality of a song 

I feel like a lot of people still see Halsey as "that annoying and cringy girl", which is kinda similar to how Charli was perceived before. The difference is that one got picked up by the GP, the other did not. Maybe one day people will see Halsey differently, but for now she remains to be an underrated icon 

[Peak Now]

34 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

Seems like a pretty mature response.

 

I'm not sure what happened to her career. I know IICHLIWP was an arts not charts but she used to bag some streaming hits pretty easily but now nothing is sticking. 

The Tumblr crowd abandoned her after she entered her sellout (I don't necessarily agree with this phrase but you get the drift) era with Closer, and she didn't gain a fanbase to make up for that with her Top 40 hits