LegaMyth Posted September 25 Posted September 25 1 hour ago, Distantconstellation said: People like u called aubrey o day crazy for 20 years when she spoke on diddy. It was an open secret and because of detractors like u diddy didn't fall until now. Jay z is next whether u like it or not. Cuba Gooding Jr and Will smith will join them in prison. So, we're just going after Black men only, huh? 3 1
sweetkiss Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Just now, Yakult said: People that listen to his music know because Cassie came forward and gave a very detailed account of Diddy's abuse in her lawsuit. honestly it could be alluded long before, cassie said on her forum long time ago she is not eating and needs to be certain weight so she just smokes and we never saw her music see light of the day
Yakult Posted September 25 Posted September 25 1 minute ago, sweetkiss said: honestly it could be alluded long before, cassie said on her forum long time ago she is not eating and needs to be certain weight so she just smokes and we never saw her music see light of the day It's so sad. As a day one Cassie fan who's followed her career pretty closely I always did find it strange how she released so little music despite having a relationship with her label head. However I was absolutely shocked when her lawsuit came out to be honest. I was used to defending her against trolls on gossip blogs who called her lazy/untalented/an opportunistic model for not releasing music; but the reality of why she could never release music was so much more brutal. I'm glad she's doing so much better now and hope that Dawn and the countless other victims get the justice they deserve and Diddy rots forever.
okgo Posted September 25 Posted September 25 9 minutes ago, Yakult said: I've read Cassie's lawsuit page to page, I'm aware that Jay-Z's name was mentioned. Like you said, that happened in private after they met Jay; his name is mentioned because it's a dense testimony of the abuse Cassie suffered at the hands of Diddy and you have to be as specific as you can with date/time/place/person to strengthen your legal case. Cassie was threatened by Interscope higher ups who protected Diddy; so Dawn's allegations are unfortunately unsurprising as there were a lot of people working to protect Diddy (I still have to read Dawn's full lawsuit). I'm aware of the Usher/Ne-Yo/Jimmy Iovine situation; Duffy lost his temper for sure, but people worked hard to cover up and it's naïve to think he was doing all of this in front of thousands of celebrities at his frequent white parties. He paid $50k to hide that video footage for a reason. There's nothing to tie Beyoncé and Jay-Z to this at all…….just hopeful speculation. Why aren't people coming for Ne-Yo or the likes of Chris Brown who have been mentioned as witnessing abuse in various lawsuits? I never said that nobody knew about Diddy or Harvey……..but for most people in the entertainment industry who caught wind of goings on it was more than likely loose rumours about orgies etc as these men had a very public image that differed from the evil they committed behind doors. I wish that people on TikTok would listen to what the victims have to say instead of believing TikTok psychics and going off on tangents about the death of *insert dead celebrity here*, but most people seem to unfortunately want a media circus instead of the truth. I agree the B/J witch hunt specifically might be dumb and futile and there's plenty others that people could and should be putting heat on instead but at the end of the day this will all go away in their next news cycle, it won't have any effect on them. It's just that the silence from everybody is defeaning. Meanwhile the victims are all very real and will still be suffering the consequences from the abuse and that silence forever. Hardly anyone's condemned him either, close associates, all the artists who just collabed on his album last year, it's disgusting. 2
Jay07 Posted September 25 Posted September 25 13 minutes ago, Yakult said: I've read Cassie's lawsuit page to page, I'm aware that Jay-Z's name was mentioned. Like you said, that happened in private after they met Jay; his name is mentioned because it's a dense testimony of the abuse Cassie suffered at the hands of Diddy and you have to be as specific as you can with date/time/place/person to strengthen your legal case. Cassie was threatened by Interscope higher ups who protected Diddy; so Dawn's allegations are unfortunately unsurprising as there were a lot of people working to protect Diddy (I still have to read Dawn's full lawsuit). I'm aware of the Usher/Ne-Yo/Jimmy Iovine situation; Duffy lost his temper for sure, but people worked hard to cover up and it's naïve to think he was doing all of this in front of thousands of celebrities at his frequent white parties. He paid $50k to hide that video footage for a reason. There's nothing to tie Beyoncé and Jay-Z to this at all…….just hopeful speculation. Why aren't people coming for Ne-Yo or the likes of Chris Brown who have been mentioned as witnessing abuse in various lawsuits? I never said that nobody knew about Diddy or Harvey……..but for most people in the entertainment industry who caught wind of goings on it was more than likely loose rumours about orgies etc as these men had a very public image that differed from the evil they committed behind doors. I wish that people on TikTok would listen to what the victims have to say instead of believing TikTok psychics and going off on tangents about the death of *insert dead celebrity here*, but most people seem to unfortunately want a media circus instead of the truth. Finally, a fair, well considered post in the midst of wild, unfounded speculation. Do I think rumours of orgies and possible abuse were prevalent in the industry? Yes. Do I think all these celebrities are morally compromised to keep associating with Diddy even though they were probably aware of what was happening behind the scenes? Yes and I think the same about all the actors that kept working with Weinstein even though they knew what was happening there but all these people eventually put furthering their career above any moral considerations. Do I believe the wild conspiracies about Jay getting people killed? No and it's not lost on me that it's the biggest and most insistent Beyonce haters, including the OP, that are spreading them under the guise of "asking questions". 7 1
Shelter Posted September 25 Posted September 25 3 minutes ago, Jay07 said: Finally, a fair, well considered post in the midst of wild, unfounded speculation. Do I think rumours of orgies and possible abuse were prevalent in the industry? Yes. Do I think all these celebrities are morally compromised to keep associating with Diddy even though they were probably aware of what was happening behind the scenes? Yes and I think the same about all the actors that kept working with Weinstein even though they knew what was happening there but all these people eventually put furthering their career above any moral considerations. Do I believe the wild conspiracies about Jay getting people killed? No and it's not lost on me that it's the biggest and most insistent Beyonce haters, including the OP, that are spreading them under the guise of "asking questions". Bet @Distantconstellation does
Doctor Dick Posted September 25 Posted September 25 8 hours ago, Trent W said: I don't think Beyonce has done something sketchy, but she might be guilty of being silent. Or at the same time being a victim. Jay Z has done sketchy stuff, there's too many allegations out there. The main thing is how bad this could be. They are just too powerful in a very very corrupt industry where you have to do bad stuff to go on top There are sketchy things in every industry. There are both good and bad people in every business, even the dairy one. It gives sheep to single out the music industry. That said, Diddy had whispers about him for years. Jay-Z doesn't really. Beyoncé only has people with tinfoiled hats. So overall Diddy going down is something expected. These conspiracy theories are for stupid people, of course the industry is also filled with good people and fair business or it would've burned down decades ago. 2
Totami Legend Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) Beyoncé stans stop pretending you care if she is a good or bad person, you would support her no matter what she does Edited September 25 by Totami Legend
Totami Legend Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Let's talk about how Beyoncé had a collab with Travis after the Astroworld tragedy in which Britney abusers were also involved. You don't care cause you're blind by your unconditional loyalty.
Trent W Posted September 25 Posted September 25 32 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: There are sketchy things in every industry. There are both good and bad people in every business, even the dairy one. It gives sheep to single out the music industry. That said, Diddy had whispers about him for years. Jay-Z doesn't really. Beyoncé only has people with tinfoiled hats. So overall Diddy going down is something expected. These conspiracy theories are for stupid people, of course the industry is also filled with good people and fair business or it would've burned down decades ago. I agree, what I said about Jay Z is that he has obviously done sketchy stuff but it might be mild or severe, we don't know. There is definitely smoke with him, but then again people on social media run wild conspiracies.
Jay07 Posted September 25 Posted September 25 16 minutes ago, Totami Legend said: Let's talk about how Beyoncé had a collab with Travis after the Astroworld tragedy in which Britney abusers were also involved. You don't care cause you're blind by your unconditional loyalty. And are you blinded by your hatred? What does Travis have to do with Diddy? Or are you just throwing anything at the wall now? 1
Totami Legend Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Just now, Jay07 said: And are you blinded by your hatred? What does Travis have to do with Diddy? Or are you just throwing anything at the wall now? Oh you again Travis and Diddy are both involved with Lou Taylor. Is it enough for you or do you want to twist my words again?
Jay07 Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Just now, Totami Legend said: Oh you again Travis and Diddy are both involved with Lou Taylor. Is it enough for you or do you want to twist my words again? And again, what does that have to do with Beyonce and Jay supposedly covering for Diddy? You know who else used Tri Star? Jennifer Lopez, Steven Tyler, Kris Jenner, Kim Kardashian, Kylie Jenner, Gwen Stefani, Reba McEntire, Priyanka Chopra, Mary J. Blige. Will you create conspiracies about them too or are you just on a crusade to prove Beyonce is a bad person for some reason? 8
Totami Legend Posted September 25 Posted September 25 1 minute ago, Jay07 said: And again, what does that have to do with Beyonce and Jay supposedly covering for Diddy? You know who else used Tri Star? Jennifer Lopez, Steven Tyler, Kris Jenner, Kim Kardashian, Kylie Jenner, Gwen Stefani, Reba McEntire, Priyanka Chopra, Mary J. Blige. Will you create conspiracies about them too or are you just on a crusade to prove Beyonce is a bad person for some reason? Deflecting the Travis collab just because it's not "apparently" on topic. The usual The answer to your question is yes
HASHTAGPOW Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) He knows Edited September 25 by HASHTAGPOW 1
Iaintsorry Posted September 25 Posted September 25 I think what ppl are accusing the carters of is being silent (well except jay having his own rumors of skeletons in the closet) silence is compliance in this day and age so…
Jay07 Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Totami Legend said: Deflecting the Travis collab just because it's not "apparently" on topic. The usual The answer to your question is yes How curious, I'd say you were the one deflecting from the actual topic by bringing up something completely unrelated since the tinfoil hat conspiracy theories you initially brought up have no basis in reality. You know, the very definition of the word deflection. But I'm glad you admit you just have an axe to grind with Beyonce. Edited September 25 by Jay07 1
KingBeyonce. Posted September 25 Posted September 25 15 minutes ago, Iaintsorry said: I think what ppl are accusing the carters of is being silent (well except jay having his own rumors of skeletons in the closet) silence is compliance in this day and age so… Silent about what? And that's not the only thing they're being accused of. There are literally videos and tweets accusing Beyonce of murdering Aaliyah and Tupac In fact, in this very thread I'm seeing people accuse her of being a human trafficker.
Timber Posted September 25 Posted September 25 7 minutes ago, KingBeyonce. said: Silent about what? And that's not the only thing they're being accused of. There are literally videos and tweets accusing Beyonce of murdering Aaliyah and Tupac In fact, in this very thread I'm seeing people accuse her of being a human trafficker. And MJ too apparently 🤦♂️ 1
needs Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said: I do love me "massive fans of xyz" who I've never stumbled upon in the base Bc I have a career? I didn't care for Cowboy Carter because it wasn't for me, and I haven't been in love with Jay's output for awhile - 444 and EIL being exceptions - okay, sweetheart? As if what you're saying checks out either, I don't have to post in base a single (1) time to be a massive fan lol. What you said is inconsequential and incorrect. And like, weird lol. Do you have a job? Edited September 25 by needs
Shelter Posted September 25 Posted September 25 16 minutes ago, KingBeyonce. said: Silent about what? And that's not the only thing they're being accused of. There are literally videos and tweets accusing Beyonce of murdering Aaliyah and Tupac In fact, in this very thread I'm seeing people accuse her of being a human trafficker. It's so disgusting how they keep saying that about Aaliyah, it wasn't only Aaliyah that died that day either, 9 people died. Makes zero sense. They also say Beyonce wouldn't be big if Aaliyah was alive, the Beyonce (Destiny's Child) who had released Independent Women, Survivor and Bootylicious in the year leading up to her death. It's so dumb. Aaliyah already denied anything with Jay, so did Foxy. It's like talking to a wall though. 1
Starshine Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Timber said: And MJ too apparently 🤦♂️ Like MJ doctor... they killing me. Propofol, I know they hope I fall I believe it... Edited September 25 by Starshine 1
Matchatea Posted September 26 Posted September 26 (edited) He knows….. Edited September 26 by Matchatea 1
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