poll Is Ariana bigger than Katy (overall career)?

[Gelato]

ariana has been bigger for almost a decade

[duybeeGAshantiGA]

3 hours ago, FailSafe said:

True. Did My Everything even sell 1M pure in the US? And that was back in 2014. Even Meghan Trainor did it

 

Overall? No. OOTB-TD-PRISM are still bigger than Ariana's career. 

Billboard disagrees because Katy is at #25 when Ari is above #16 (still tba which # she will be called).

[Dialamba]

Katy Stan's are still stuck in 2014 I swear  

[glitch]

People yapping about pure sales, but ask any random member of the public (especially anyone under the age of 30) and they'll say Ariana.

 

Longevity > quick little peaks

[Iaintsorry]

Can't compare. Both had different trajectories

Ariana is a slow burner. Katy was instantaneous 

[raisetheroof]

Katy Perry's peak was huge - we're talking an era that completely dominated pop music and the culture surrounding it. Even though Ariana has had more longevity, with twice the amount of "succesful" albums, it's difficult to argue that her overall career has yet surpassed the absolutely massive peak Katy Perry reached during her prime. Katy's peak was global and ubiquitous, she was literally battling herself on the Hot 100

 

Ari's success has been more gradual and spread out, rather than concentrated in a single, culture-shifting moment. Katy's moment circa 2009-2015 is hard to argue with

[FailSafe]

21 minutes ago, duybeeGAshantiGA said:

Billboard disagrees because Katy is at #25 when Ari is above #16 (still tba which # she will be called).

Eh Billboard have some questionable placings with their rankings.

 

Katy sold more singles in sps and TD is approaching diamond in sps. Prism is over 5x platinum and OOTB 3x (?). Does Ariana even have 5x platinum album?

[Tm4074]

Why are people using Katy's "peak" as evidence she's bigger? What good is such a huge peak if your career falls directly off a cliff right after? And such a huge peak but nobody stuck around to support her after album #3. Her decline was very telling and her peak is overrated on here. She was a big pop radio hit girlie for a few years. That's it. Her career nosedived once the hits dried up, radio stopped being as influential, and streaming took over. Her career essentially died with the digital and radio era. She has no fanbase to fall back on either. 

 

Also mentioning pure sales as an argument for Katy because in present day Katy can't get any streams or pure sales.  

[FailSafe]

1 minute ago, Tm4074 said:

Why are people using Katy's "peak" as evidence she's bigger? What good is such a huge peak if your career falls directly off a cliff right after? And such a huge peak but nobody stuck around to support her after album #3. Her decline was very telling and her peak is overrated on here. She was a big pop radio hit girlie for a few years. That's it. Her career nosedived once the hits dried up, radio stopped being as influential, and streaming took over. Her career essentially died with the digital and radio era. She has no fanbase to fall back on either. 

 

Also mentioning pure sales as an argument for Katy because in present day Katy can't get any streams or pure sales.  

Katy destroys Ariana is SPS, too. Katy also has a diamond-approaching album while Ariana can barely pass 5x plat at her peak.

 

Also Ariana's 2nd most successful era, My Everything, was released when pure sales were still strong. Ariana was just a an outright FLOP during that time period because even Meghan Trainor outsold her. Ariana should be thankful the streaming age happened because she'd be tanking left and right if it's still the digital era.

 

And Katy declined with her 4th album, and even with that her streams were respectable. Chained, Swish and Bon have billions of streams each across all platforms and still more successful than several Ariana Eras.

 

Ariana underperformed several times, but because her peak was much smaller than Katy, it's not a as noticeable. Which is understandable because teenage dream Era alone sold more than half of Ariana's entire discography 

[Tm4074]

Just now, FailSafe said:

Katy destroys Ariana is SPS, too. Katy also has a diamond-approaching album while Ariana can barely pass 5x plat at her peak.

 

Also Ariana's 2nd most successful era, My Everything, was released when pure sales were still strong. Ariana was just a an outright FLOP during that time period because even Meghan Trainor outsold her. Ariana should be thankful the streaming age happened because she'd be tanking left and right if it's still the digital era.

 

And Katy declined with her 4th album, and even with that her streams were respectable. Chained, Swish and Bon have billions of streams each across all platforms and still more successful than several Ariana Eras.

 

Ariana underperformed several times, but because her peak was much smaller than Katy, it's not a as noticeable. Which is understandable because teenage dream Era alone sold more than half of Ariana's entire discography 

girl not you needing to lie out your ass to make it seem like Katy is bigger

 

Ah yes. My Everything - the 4x Platinum certified album with a 8x Platinum song, a 10x Platinum song, a 5x Platinum song, and a 4x Platinum song, and billions of streams. Such a flop!  Those aren't even all updated certs. Problem was literally in the top 10 biggest digital sales weeks of all time. Witness that is only certified Gold was more successful than several Ariana eras? Really? On what planet? 6 of Ariana's albums are eligible for multiplatinum certifications.  She doesn't have an album below Platinum. How does that make any sense?

 

[NewStanner]

5 hours ago, A-V-XYZ said:

Katy was bigger at her peak. Ariana's bigger now of course.

 

5 hours ago, A-V-XYZ said:

Ariana's pure sales are trash lol.

Not you quoting yourself 

 

3 hours ago, Distantconstellation said:

Didnt Ariana come out in like 2012/2013? Even her pure sales are trash from that time period. The problem is that Katys pure sales, mainly single sales are so massive that Ariana would never be able to catch up. 

And this comment is pretty similar too. Did you forget to switch dupes? 

 

OT: Ariana, like please. Imagine using "pure sales" argument in 2024 as if Ari isn't a streaming force rn

Edited 13 minutes ago by NewStanner

[FailSafe]

10 minutes ago, Tm4074 said:

girl not you needing to lie out your ass to make it seem like Katy is bigger

 

Ah yes. My Everything - the 4x Platinum certified album with a 8x Platinum song, a 10x Platinum song, a 5x Platinum song, and a 4x Platinum song, and billions of streams. Such a flop!  Those aren't even all updated certs. Problem was literally in the top 10 biggest digital sales weeks of all time. Witness that is only certified Gold was more successful than several Ariana eras? Really? On what planet? 6 of Ariana's albums are eligible for multiplatinum certifications.  She doesn't have an album below Platinum. How does that make any sense?

 

Did I say that Witness is bigger than My Everything? But I guess to you they are comparable because their streams across all platforms have similar #s. And you just proved my point, 2nd biggest era only 4s plat and is TU, N even 5x plat? Lol Teenage dream OUTSOLD. And that's not counting PRISM (which also outsold any Ariana album) and One of the Boys (which SPS is also comparable to Ariana's peak). Speaking of single certifications, How's Problems cert? Is it diamond in the US? because Katy has SEVERAL excluding the singles from TD.