base talk The Mother Of Pop

[HardBambi]

Mother of Father Christmas & love ballads

 

[Kayseri Mantisi]

14 minutes ago, genio said:

- Ariana Grande

- Sabrina Carpenter 

- Taylor Swift

- Lady Gaga

- Megan Thee Stallion (name dropping Mimi in her new song)

- Tinashe

 

there's so many more I could name. To say she hasn't influenced any of the pop girls, especially of the past 14 years () is just factually wrong. I just took a look at the CURRENT H100 and wrote down the names. There's literally so many more girls that were influenced by Mariah. 

This list  do you actually listen to these people and their music? Only Ariana actually makes sense in here, and even with that yes and remix was one of the most forgettable releases in 2024 and was one of the worst remixes in general. Sabrina Carpenter is actually influenced by Lorde, Taylor Swift and such, Taylor doesn't have the vocal range or genre range to be influenced by Mariah, Gaga is doing her own thing, Megan's music has nothing to do with Mariah Carey.

Edited September 22 by Kayseri Mantisi

[Rihinvention]

3 minutes ago, genio said:

I mean, doesn't that apply to MJ as well, or even Madonna, who's being named the Queen of Pop? 

I don't think so. We can agree to disagree, but I think the majority of people would be able to rattle off more MJ/Madonna songs than Mariah songs.

[genio]

1 minute ago, HardBambi said:

Mother of Father Christmas & love ballads

 

Hmmm... A Queen fades, while Christmas ALWAYS stays, so we will take that as well.

 

[genio]

Just now, Rihinvention said:

I don't think so. We can agree to disagree, but I think the majority of people would be able to rattle off more MJ/Madonna songs than Mariah songs.

What Madonna song do you think Gen Alpha can name? This is absolutely no shade to the amazing QoP Madonna, but it's sad that they won't recognize or aren't familiar with her quality music sadly. Popular might be the song due to currency bias, but I doubt Gen A even knows Like A Prayer. 

[genio]

4 minutes ago, Kayseri Mantisi said:

This list  do you actually listen to these people and their music? Only Ariana actually makes sense in here, and even with that yes and remix was one of the most unforgettable releases in 2024 and was one of the worst remixes in general. Sabrina Carpenter is actually influenced by Lorde, Taylor Swift and such, Taylor doesn't have the vocal range or genre range to be influenced by Mariah, Gaga is doing her own thing, Megan's music has nothing to do with Mariah Carey.

Mariah literally made remixes a thing honey.

Quote

In the mid-1990s Ms. Carey pioneered a subgenre that some people call the thug-love duet. Nowadays clean-cut pop stars are expected to collaborate with roughneck rappers, but when Ms. Carey teamed up with Ol' Dirty Bastard, of the Wu-Tang Clan, for the 1995 hit "Fantasy (Remix)," it was a surprise, and a smash.

- Kelefa Sanneh of The New York Times

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_Mariah_Carey

 

Edited September 22 by genio

[Lover]

yes mother yes pop yes woohoo!

[Kimi]

not really mother of xmas sure, maybe pop-rnb but even that no, current rnb girls dont sound like her.

[suburbannature]

5 hours ago, Kayseri Mantisi said:

What do you mean by mother of pop? She's definitely a mega legend and no one can deny that, but for right now she's the mother of christmas and that's it maybe. None of the current popgirls and current soundscape is influenced by Mariah to call her someone's mother... and by current i mean like the last 14 years or something... 

this delusional lie 

 

 

[Shimenawa]

Came here for the true Queen Mother Goddonna 

 

 

 

Edited September 22 by Shimenawa

[suburbannature]

1 hour ago, Kimi said:

not really mother of xmas sure, maybe pop-rnb but even that no, current rnb girls dont sound like her.

I've seen people (and publications) start to call her the Blueprint of Pop which is more accurate considering how she single-handedly changed the sound of modern music. From merging pop and hip-hop (including popularizing rap collabs), to her use of remixes, to melismatic singing in pop, to her songwriting, to pop holiday music, to het use of whistle register 

 

She's one of the most musically-influential artists in our lifetime and that's undeniable. 
 

 

[Europe]

4 hours ago, genio said:

What Madonna song do you think Gen Alpha can name? This is absolutely no shade to the amazing QoP Madonna, but it's sad that they won't recognize or aren't familiar with her quality music sadly. Popular might be the song due to currency bias, but I doubt Gen A even knows Like A Prayer. 

You are so unserious Like A Prayer was just re-introduced to the new generation thanks to that 1,4 BILLION grossing deadpool movie which will be seen and consumed regularly for the next years, to say the new generation doesn't know it is certainly a take.