base talk Why did II MOST WANTED flop?

[FrederickGa]

3 minutes ago, Titanbaddie said:

Okay i'm glad we agree that Gaga's last album is in fact a flop

 

Lovely talking to you enjoy your day. 

 

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A flop album that is always compared to Renaissance right?

[SoJro101]

12 minutes ago, FrederickGa said:

A flop album that is always compared to Renaissance right?

*Checks first pages of the Renaissance and BMS announcement forums* 

 

Monster's were definitely the first one's out here trying to leach onto to Bey's dance album/single announcement after Gaga's… attempt with Chromatica. 

Edited September 20 by SoJro101

[Burn]

Not sure why Gaga stans are getting so brave in here when Gaga has lent on Bradley Cooper, Ariana Grande and Bruno Mars to get all of her last hits. They like to make a point about how Gaga did charity for Bey with Telephone, but I wonder if they've ever considered that Telephone was a hit because of Bey, because if we're looking at who's had to rely on collaborators to score hits between Gaga and Bey, I know who I'd choose.  Alexa, play recent and solo hits Texas Hold 'Em, Cuff It and Break My Soul.

Edited September 20 by Burn

[Mr. Stratus]

Bey isn't Gaga - she doesnt add global smashery to a collab

 

Shame cause Miley was in 'flowers-mania' at the time

[Ricardo1993]

It's a good song but unfortunately Beyonce doesn't seem to care about doing actual promotion for her new music. She has visuals locked in her computer that she refuses to release.

[DaphneGuinness]

10 minutes ago, Burn said:

I wonder if they've ever considered that Telephone was a hit because of Bey

Telephone is Beyoncé's fourth most streamed song daily and it's not even in Gaga's top 10 so I'll let you do the math.

[IsidoraMarí]

The only replayable song on the album

[KatyPrismSpirit]

2 hours ago, Nazareth said:

Should've had Gaga on that song tbh. That's what everyone has been asking for years now. 

I expected that song to be Telephone part II before it was confirmed it was with Miley

[WildAmerican]

2 hours ago, honestopinion said:

Cause people have no taste and want songs about f*cking and sh@king ***** instead of ballads 

DWAS is the biggest song in the world rn, so maybe 2MW just isn't that good 

[DaphneGuinness]

1 hour ago, OrgVisual said:

Liddos getting brave again  Remember when they said Beyonce couldn't score a solo #1 hit since Bush's administration. And now the same exact thing applies to their fav  

Love Bey but Telephone is still her latest song to make it to the IFPI. And that was *checks notes* 15 years ago. 

Edited September 20 by DaphneGuinness

[Pheromosa]

No promo, no video, no live performances

Beyonce thinks these things aren't needed or at  helpful. 

I think she's making a mistake but she won't be convinced 

[Digitalism]

Because Bey and Miley are probably the laziest with promo.

And they didn't pay for spotify autoplay like other recent collabs

Edited September 20 by Digitalism

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

I honestly don't get it either. The song is good and it's a big collab between two pop icons. I think part of it is it didn't feel like a single: no video, no performances. However it's pretty clear that Cowboy Carter, as a whole, didn't connect with the public for whatever reason. Even THE was very frontloaded. 

[Doogle]

42 minutes ago, DaphneGuinness said:

Telephone is Beyoncé's fourth most streamed song daily and it's not even in Gaga's top 10 so I'll let you do the math.

As if that's the only factor for a hit. When did Gaga last achieve one on her own  

[MonsterTown]

never heard of her, most unwanted indeed.

[Rafael]

1 hour ago, Mr. Stratus said:

Bey isn't Gaga - she doesnt add global smashery to a collab

 

Shame cause Miley was in 'flowers-mania' at the time

Flowers came out in Jan 2023. II Most Wanted was released Mar 2024 with the album. Miley had already release several singles after Flowers that flopped .

Gaga stans as usual

 

You all really shouldn't be that brave latching on to a Bruno Mars assisted song smashing.

Edited September 20 by Rafael
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[LVP]

Liddos are so brave again after DWAS. Let me wait for G7 reception 

[DaphneGuinness]

17 minutes ago, Doogle said:

As if that's the only factor for a hit. When did Gaga last achieve one on her own  

That's the ultimate factor for a global hit. Gaga has had two since Telephone and is the female artist with the most. Sit this one out 

[Rafael]

3 hours ago, FrederickGa said:

I mean, when was the last time Beyonce experienced DWAS' Level of Global Slayage? Bush Administration?

 

O.T - it's just BAD.. Bad Album.. THE is excellent tho

 

3 hours ago, perfillusion said:

Hope Bey can release a song half as big in the future  

It's soooooo embarassing seeing this delulu base get so cocky ever since DWAS started smashing. Yall are so annoying .

It's a great song guys... but I hate to break it to you but it will always have that feeling that Bruno Mars is carrying its success to much bigger heights. The song SCREAMS Bruno Mars and he's one of the biggest hitmakers of his generation. A GP darling.

She flopped hard with Stupid Love and ran to Ariana for safety. She's about to launch a new pop era so she attached her self to a safe hit with Bruno Mars first.

 

Just keep it down because you all are really not in the position to be dragging anyone so bravely as you are now 

[perfillusion]

5 minutes ago, Rafael said:

 

It's soooooo embarassing seeing this delulu base get so cocky ever since DWAS started smashing. Yall are so annoying .

It's a great song guys... but I hate to break it to you but it will always have that feeling that Bruno Mars is carrying its success to much bigger heights. The song SCREAMS Bruno Mars and he's one of the biggest hitmakers of his generation. A GP darling.

She flopped hard with Stupid Love and ran to Ariana for safety. She's about to launch a new pop era so she attached her self to a safe hit with Bruno Mars first.

 

Just keep it down because you all are really not in the position to be dragging anyone so bravely as you are now 

DWAS is a Gaga song as much as it's Bruno, sorry  Anyways DWAS just reached a new peak in streams (11.3M)  Did Bey ever reach that 

[FrederickGa]

8 minutes ago, Rafael said:

 

It's soooooo embarassing seeing this delulu base get so cocky ever since DWAS started smashing. Yall are so annoying .

It's a great song guys... but I hate to break it to you but it will always have that feeling that Bruno Mars is carrying its success to much bigger heights. The song SCREAMS Bruno Mars and he's one of the biggest hitmakers of his generation. A GP darling.

She flopped hard with Stupid Love and ran to Ariana for safety. She's about to launch a new pop era so she attached her self to a safe hit with Bruno Mars first.

 

Just keep it down because you all are really not in the position to be dragging anyone so bravely as you are now 

A Beyonce fan has no right dragging Gaga and screaming "No Solo Hit" either

 

Look at ARUTW, MR stomping on THE, Cuff It, BMS 

 

Beyonce's last Global Smash is TELEPHONE

[Selegend]

this song is such a snooze 

one of the worst from CC, never got the praise

GP clearly agreed with me tho. 

[truthteller]

because she wants to focus on what matters - Ce Noir, Cecred and SIRDAVIS

[Aden]

1 hour ago, Burn said:

Not sure why Gaga stans are getting so brave in here when Gaga has lent on Bradley Cooper, Ariana Grande and Bruno Mars to get all of her last hits. They like make a point about how Gaga did charity for Bey with Telephone, but I wonder if they've ever considered that Telephone was a hit because of Bey, because if we're looking at who's had to rely on collaborators to score hits between Gaga and Bey, I know who I'd choose.  Alexa, play recent and solo hits Texas Hold 'Em, Cuff It and Break My Soul.

The Gaga comparisons are indeed annoying but let's not try it when ARTUW, Bloody Mary and even JUDAS are outstreaming all three of these as recent as this week.

 

Also crazy to say Telephone didn't also smash because of Gaga at the height or her commercial peak  Y'all love to pin these collabs against Gaga when 1) artist like Bey have double the amount of collabs and 2) Gaga has equally contributed to the success of her collabs (see: Gaga and Bruno being side-by-side in monthly listeners with DWAS). The fact that a f*cking actor who had never released music before ASIB is brought up against Gaga is just

[TipToe]

This sing gimmes era finale vibe, like if CC were a blockbuster era it could have been the 6th singel and a cute hit. Good sing but not really all that imo