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Just now, Sugden said:

the way nobody comented on the 30/100 from allmusic

i guess we got used to the pannedness :jonny3:

ALLMUSIC?!??? these people gave a 80/100 to LOTUS……

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Just caught up with all 92 pages of nonstop lashings and I feel like I put in more time and effort than Katy did into this album

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6 minutes ago, Sugden said:

the way nobody comented on the 30/100 from allmusic

i guess we got used to the pannedness :jonny3:

One of the heaviest editorials for MC score along with RS and Pitchfork.

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16 hours ago, Venice B said:

Not my ceiling literally collapsing over my head while I was reading this thread :jonny4:

 

 

Well something about this album needed to be a collapse

 

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Though at a certain time she was uncontestable pop royalty, Katy Perry's creative vision (and relevance) have been in steady decline since sometime around 2015.

No... :rip: Allmusic

https://www.allmusic.com/album/143-mw0004327724

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I am currently hosting WonderTwister at the #143Gala! Who wants to join?

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her Head Over Heels, after which she releases nothing for over a decade? 

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ATRLers rn:

 

 

 

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feat. Doechii, Kim Petras, 21 Savage, JID + Dr Luke, Max Martin & Stargate :toofunny2:

 

EDIT: wrong thread dd

 

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Let's not forget this thread

 

Consequence: Five Questions About Katy Perry's Soulless New Album 143: Review

https://consequence.net/2024/09/katy-perry-143-new-album-review/

 

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Why Dr. Luke?

Why Even Bother with "WOMAN's WORLD?"

Where Is the 4?

Does Perry Think Words Have Meaning, or Are They Just Nifty Sounds?

What Does Perry Actually "WONDER" About?

 

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2 minutes ago, FlyPirate said:

OH IT'S ACTUALLY 1.5/5 :deadbanana4:

does it count for metacritic

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Just now, Gagaast said:

does it count for metacritic

it's one of the most relevant publications for MC along Rolling Stone and Pitchfork

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Allmusic, 1.5 out 5.

One of the most respectable music editorials of all time.

 

Though at a certain time she was uncontestable pop royalty, Katy Perry's creative vision (and relevance) have been in steady decline since sometime around 2015

 

With her seventh album 143, her crown officially falls off. Perry's once world-dominating winning streak began to slip with the confused political messaging and EDM attempts of 2017's Witness, and her 2020 follow-up, Smile, failed to ignite sparks of either inspiration or even nostalgia in those listeners hoping for a return to the flawless, PG-13 escapist pop of the Teenage Dream era. 

 

Seemingly learning nothing from those past missteps, Perry wanders even further off the path with the lifeless, floundering reaches that make up 143. Kicking things off with the hollow, quasi-feminist sloganeering and equally generic preset disco production of lead single "Women's World," 143 begins with an anthem that sounds wholly unsure of itself. Production from Dr. Luke (a controversial and misguided choice for an album that purports to be pro-woman, given his very public status as Kesha's alleged abuser) makes the tracks shiny and radio-ready, but also adds to the overall sense of stagnation that bogs down the album. 

 

When Perry does try to recapture former glories, it falls flat. "Nirvana" sounds like a dancier rewrite of "Dark Horse" with a weaker hook, and Stargate-produced album-closer "Wonder" throws multiple elements from Perry's past hits at the wall (anthemic choruses, hyper-melodic arrangement, lyrics that are vaguely encouraging to some faceless underdog) hoping something will stick

 

Ultimately, Perry's ongoing fall from grace is solidified on 143 not because she failed to adapt to trends or turn in something as frivolously fun and undeniably catchy as "California Gurls" 14 years later, but simply because there simply isn't a lot to like about these songs, and it's desperately lacking in the kind of lighthearted, sometimes silly, sometimes salacious fun that used to define her stardom. 143 rings the death knell for Perry for no other reason than it commits pop music's ultimate sin: it's boring.

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It sounds like a death sentence from the court.

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1 minute ago, FlyPirate said:

it's one of the most relevant publications for MC along Rolling Stone and Pitchfork

then it must have higher weightage in MC. 30 here we come 

 

If pitchfork gives similar rating, oh god it's gonna fall below 30.

 

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Because some of these lyrics are difficult to understand, and she's the one who has to sing them. In "LIFETIMES" she seems to assert that she and her partner's love is permanent, "Like the sun is always rising/ Like the stars are in the sky," and it's like, huh, you know the sun isn't always rising, right?

But her more common lyrics are vaguely cool nonsense. On "GIMME GIMME," she sings,

All my girlies pop up on the regular (Yeah, yeah)
Pick your poison, baby, take a bite
If you want the digits to my cellular (Yeah, yeah)
Gotta spend it all on me tonight

 

 

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23 minutes ago, FlyPirate said:

ALLMUSIC?!??? these people gave a 80/100 to LOTUS……

And LOTUS is objectively better 

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That 4 in 143 is turning from love to hate really quick 

:suburban:

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She should make this iconic. Have her own Heidi Montag moment

 

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And they're usually very generous for standard pop albums. Yeah the album is really "that" bad.

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Just now, enchanted0 said:

And they're usually very generous for standard pop albums. Yeah the album is really "that" bad.

Even "Head Above Water" had 4/5, it have like three decent song.

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Gotta side-eye any reviewer that counts her Christian rock stuff as a legit album lol

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7 minutes ago, Gagaast said:

then it must have higher weightage in MC. 30 here we come 

 

If pitchfork gives similar rating, oh god it's gonna fall below 30.

 

I just know the baguette that wrote the pitchfork review is gagging over the fact that they get to hammer the final nail in perry's coffin. 
 

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And who wouldn't be gagging? :ryan3:

 

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I've never seen AllMusic go in on someone like that :hoetenks:she is truly in a league of her own

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