MP3 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago THE FAME Released : August 19, 2008 Singles : 5 THE FAME MONSTER Released : November 18, 2009 Singles : 4 While it is often considered as one album or as a reissue from medias, charts and music analysts, both albums feel very different in many aspects. Musically, The Fame is more oriented on the fun side of pop with catchy choruses and classic pop song structures while The Fame Monster has a more complex musicality and more elaborate melodies. It's clear it is two distinct eras, the aesthetics being at complete opposite and visuals from The Fame Monster really propulsed Gaga's artistic imagery. At the same time, TFM has only 8 songs, which is kinda short for an album, but it could be considered as a standalone EP instead of a continuation of TF. One year and three months separate the two releases, which is enough to be considered as two albums. Are TF and TFM two distinct albums? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tost1 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago For me they are different, completely different moods. But for bragging rights, I consider them one! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymoonshine Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago The problem is that they were sold as both a re-issue and a standalone and in some countries only as a reissue. Gaga considers TFM her second album and it is distinctively it's own project so that's how I view it but officially there's no definitive answer. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onion Girl Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago I get why they decided to bundle the two together, they probably wanted to take advantage of the success she had with The Fame, but I wish they would have just released it as a stand alone project only since they are so distinctly different. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dick Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago (edited) I always saw The Fame Monster as a continuation of The Fame in EP form and deluxe. When Bad Romance came out it wasn't treated as the lead single of her new album which is why Born This Way smashed so hard from the get-go because it was promoted as a lead single. But I still view it as part of the same project. Although in hindsight it would've been better to add two more songs and call it a new album. For sales it's considered what the label wanted: one project. But regardless if you split them into two, one or the other sold 20 million units so it's a smash regardless. And that's without the units from the singles' performances on the internet when they were peaking which makes the album/albums' sales even more impressive. Edited 18 hours ago by Doctor Dick 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
єѕℓαм Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago They are obv two completely separate albums (even the Grammys agree) also one is about the positive side of fame and the other is the complete opposite which is very iconic to me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar-Rush Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago The albums were bundled together in some countries, hence why they're sometimes counted as one album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago This conversation still happening in 2024 is making me scream 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatito Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago LG1: the fame LG2: the fame monster LG3: born this way LG4: artpop LG5: joanne LG6: chromatica 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tost1 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 3 minutes ago, gatito said: LG1: the fame LG2: the fame monster LG3: born this way LG4: artpop LG5: joanne LG6: chromatica Ugh this font and style, so cheap looking 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dick Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, gatito said: LG1: the fame LG2: the fame monster LG3: born this way LG4: artpop LG5: joanne LG6: chromatica Yeah but her label screwed this up. Now LG2 is an EP instead of a full-length studio album that also has low first week album sales because it was promoted as such. Edited 18 hours ago by Doctor Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Aesthetically, conceptually, and most importantly, contractually, TFM is its own body of work and LG2. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimi Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Gaga calls it her second album so I call it her second album. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unison stan Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago one album even though their sounds are different on their own. tfm was a re-issue of the fame. after its huge success ga ga went to interscope, make them paper gangstas count TFM as her sophomore and re-sign her contract. hope this helps cause this discussion should've been ended in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielneira Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago They're totally different albums. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junipero Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago The Fame > The Fame Monster I felt The Fame was more natural, and it wasn't too in-your-face with Lady Gaga pulling off theatrics nearly every day. The Fame Monster felt over-the-top. I also liked the pop-rock and alt-rock songs on The Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attention Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago it's a second album 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted 17 hours ago Author Share Posted 17 hours ago 57 minutes ago, Katamari said: This conversation still happening in 2024 is making me scream Make you scream one album or two? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshoutthebuffet Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Two separate albums. Besides the obvious difference in theme and aesthetic, TFM is objectively an LP. It's almost 35 min long and 8 tracks long. LPs need to be at least 7 songs and 30 min long. Somewhat unrelated but I consider Paradise its own album too for those reasons 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, MP3 said: THE FAME MONSTER Released : November 18, 2009 Singles : 4 ?? There were only 3 singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted 16 hours ago Author Share Posted 16 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Janet said: ?? There were only 3 singles. Dance In The Dark was released in some countries I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fey Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago No offense but do you guys like, listen to any other artists/albums? These albums are nearing 20 years old. Who cares. OT: Two albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastKiss Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago They are two albums and in retrospect TFM should have been promoted as her sophomore album it would have broken more records and sold more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotearoa Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Interscope said two so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted 16 hours ago Author Share Posted 16 hours ago 11 minutes ago, _Fey said: No offense but do you guys like, listen to any other artists/albums? These albums are nearing 20 years old. Who cares. OT: Two albums Even if it was the case, is there a problem with it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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