Prisoner Posted September 10 Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Arrows said: Will this get 40 pages? Lmao Nothing wrong with this though Yes cause chappel roan and taylor swift are on the same levels of popularity
Onyxmage Posted September 10 Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Jon Snow said: i thought we all have conservative family members, and we still love them. the fact that they don't understand something, doesn't mean they're Trump-level evil. do people think that you stop loving your family just because they're homphobic? that's certainly not the case with me and even my friends Most people who stop talking to family and friends that are MAGATS stop doing so because they are fanatical and many are violent and loud about their beliefs. If your family called you F slur instead of your name and abused you maybe you would have a different tone. 1
Bussea Posted September 10 Posted September 10 and there's nothing wrong with that. as much as I would LOVE to stop talking to every single republican and MAGA dingbat I come across, it's unrealistic. it's such a chronically online "take", because I promise that 100% of the people who scream this don't apply this in their real life (or able to even order a pizza over the phone without stuttering) but expect others to do it. I have had to cut some people out of my life for trump support but there's some that's still in life, but at arm's reach 2
VOSS Posted September 10 Posted September 10 Wasn't she the one who refused to perform at the White House lmfao 1
Raver Posted September 10 Posted September 10 38 minutes ago, Prisoner said: Yes cause chappel roan and taylor swift are on the same levels of popularity Nope they are not on the same levels but that doesn't matter. It shows atrl's hypocrisy at its finest 1
Dessy Posted September 10 Posted September 10 2 hours ago, Joey307 said: I just love how liberals always seem to forget that their faves such as Hillary, Obama, and Biden were vehemently anti-gay up until like 2015 but you wouldn't disown your family for supporting Obama in 2008 and 2012, right? American politics are a JOKE and a SCAM What a ridiculous take. Those politicians, but especially Obama, didn't make "anti-gay" the centerpieces of their campaigns. Most even supported civil unions and were open to changing their mind on the issue of marriage and looking at other pro-gay policies by the 2008 presidential election. And eventually they did improve! Compare that to Trump and current Republicans who are now doubling on anti-LGBTQ rhetoric to the point where nuts are threatening businesses with violence for even supporting us. And that's just one issue. Not the gotcha that you think it is. Currently as we speak, they are working with extremely dangerous rhetoric that would impact Haitian immigrants and black Americans at large. Currently as we speak, they are looking for ways to limit abortions as much as they can and trying to subvert the will of the people. Currently as we speak, they're already lying about the election being stolen 💀 Dealing with family and disowning is an obviously complicated topic. But don't pretend that these two camps are remotely the same. 3 1
Julia Fox Posted September 10 Posted September 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Khal said: I feel like they have very different experiences that I'm not sure they can relate to each other? Sabrina's rise was obviously planned and something she really wanted, hence 6 debut albums in 9 years. While it felt like for Chappell , it wasn't planned, she didn't want it and just kind of fell into it? She wanted it so bad. I remember when she was dropped from Atlantic she was crying on Instagram because she said she wanted to be known and succeed and here she got it but obviously nothing is what you expect when you wish for fame. Because wanting it it's a thing and having it is a WAY more different and difficult thing. I think Sabrina has been in the spotlight for so much more and has the training since her Disney days so it's much easier for her but that doesn't mean she's just living a life in a normal way. She still has the eyes around her and is the girl of the moment Edited September 10 by Julia Fox 2
Reginald Posted September 10 Posted September 10 My family has so many deeply-rooted issues, but one thing I will say is that they NEVER vote against their interests. I guess some people are just privileged enough to not have to worry about the real-world implications of politics. Must be nice. 2
favorite crime Posted September 10 Posted September 10 Its striking how different the tone is in here from the Taylor thread. Its almost like people were just hating because its Taylor...Oh wait 1 1
favorite crime Posted September 10 Posted September 10 3 hours ago, Joey307 said: I just love how liberals always seem to forget that their faves such as Hillary, Obama, and Biden were vehemently anti-gay up until like 2015 but you wouldn't disown your family for supporting Obama in 2008 and 2012, right? American politics are a JOKE and a SCAM You just made all of that up. None of those three were anti-gay at all, ever
Cain Posted September 10 Posted September 10 The poor/working class population has switched from left-leaning to right-leaning in the last couple of decades because of multiple factors, including the left leaving them out of their political agenda, the right snatching up that spot (in message, not in policy) and the state doing next to nothing to help better their conditions, they've actually worsened them with the crackdown on unions There's a plethora of reasons why people vote Republican although from our perspective it would not make sense. The best thing for Chappell to do is to stay in contact with them and talk and hopefully persuade them to change, although that's going to be very hard 1
Into The Void Posted September 10 Posted September 10 3 hours ago, tiagol88 said: Loving republican family members isn't loving Trump supporters. Not every republican out there likes or votes for Trump. This needs to be stated. True my hard core Replican aunts both loathe Trump
jóga Posted September 10 Posted September 10 reading these forums, I see that none of you really know what a republican is or wants for America. Like you're all clearly getting your info from tik toks and celeb tweets. I shouldn't have expected more from ATRL but I expect more from common sense and humanity 2 1
Devon Posted September 10 Posted September 10 (edited) 6 hours ago, EnigmaticAndroid said: I live in Florida and a majority of my extended family are lifelong Republicans and have voted for Trump in the past. I'm not going to disown them and make a public spectacle out of it to appease people who live through purity tests. At the end of the day, I still love (most of) them. Actually engaging with these people, gaining an understanding, building mutual empathy, and having genuine conversations over issues will do way more than ostricizing them, which will just perpetuate their own victimization and negative perception of "the other side". Absolutely! I also worry about echo chambers becoming even more prevalent. Americans are left wondering why there is a loneliness epidemic, yet people have the expectation we should only engage with those who meet our personal purity test. All we're left with is divided echo chambers on both sides. It's so crucial to meet people where they are, try to understand their lived experiences, and consider even their unreliable sources that shape their perspectives. Real change in opinions can happen once genuine community is formed. Edited September 10 by Devon 1
Peak Now Posted September 11 Posted September 11 (edited) 5 pages only? Even the threads about her TikToks got 20+ pages... Edit: @liam13 change the title to "Chappell Roan empathizes with Trump supporters. Disgusted?" for that hit thread Edited September 11 by AndThenTheCocaine
Prisoner Posted September 11 Posted September 11 6 hours ago, Raver said: Nope they are not on the same levels but that doesn't matter. It shows atrl's hypocrisy at its finest Atrl won't care as much about Jenny Jemmings as they do about Beyonce. Not hypocrisy, the bigger the star the bigger the target
liam13 Posted September 11 Author Posted September 11 1 hour ago, AndThenTheCocaine said: change the title to "Chappell Roan empathizes with Trump supporters. Disgusted?" for that hit thread i woke up today and noticed that my thread was merged with another one i am disgusted 1
tjspy Posted September 11 Posted September 11 12 hours ago, liam13 said: if courtesy is a bad look for someone else then having a heart might be too. Glad we all look bad at some lights
liam13 Posted September 11 Author Posted September 11 3 minutes ago, tjspy said: Glad we all look bad at some lights who's we?
tjspy Posted September 11 Posted September 11 32 minutes ago, liam13 said: who's we? The ones with heart and the ones with courtesy ig
liam13 Posted September 11 Author Posted September 11 Just now, tjspy said: The ones with heart and the ones with courtesy ig both of them don't look bad at all. those who look bad are the clowns in this and a certain megathread hating for no good reason.
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